I watched Foster interviewing Emi Martinez and asked him what kind of advice you would give to the young player now. Emi mentioned to get psychologist as early as possible because it's very important since sport is about mental game. It's an interesting one because Emi mentioned this multiple times that when he was at Arsenal he thought about early retirement. If Rashford wants the right support, go get professional that can help him in his tough period aka psychologist.
Rashford considering his future...
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Delusional. And thats his main problem
Romano has said no contract discussions yet. There are some with Shaw though.
The end of next season, he'll have 1 year left on his contract. When will we ever learn to NOT leave player with one year left on his contract?
It's this stupid policy that make us either overpaid players wage or player leave for free (with player just lazing around on his last year).
Well I'm sure you know this already, don't you?
So what is the answer with Rashford? Give him 3 more years with a wage hike leaving him unsellable or wait until he has 18 months left and then review the situation? Giving him a new contract now would be a sign of just how badly the club is run.
One of our biggest problems has been hanging onto players that are not good enough.
I think it would be close to impossible to sell him with his wages.That's like the worst worst-case scenario, though. Clearly there are levels to this stuff.
Rashford will be out of contract the summer after next, meaning he'll go for free if the club chooses not to renew it. That's just bad business, I'm sure you'll agree. We may as well give him a new contract now and hope he turns his form around. Failing that, at least we'll have a bargaining chip when it comes to selling him on the following summer.
In any case, Rashford isn't the biggest concern for the club right now. For me, the priority this summer should be upgrading the long-neglected midfield. I cannot express how disappointed I'll be if we start next season with McFred in the midfield
Agree. Give him 1 year contract extension on the same salary if absolutely necessary. Say if you get back to form like you reckon and were challenging we will look at it again in 12 months time.
If he thinks United are a family then he won't be asking for anymore money on his already undeserved contract will he? Dad I know I crashed the car and killed the neighbors cat but I need my allowance tripled, thanks.
Well, we either extend his contract - with as minimal a salary increase as possible - or run the risk of facing another Pogba-type situation the summer after next, which basically removes choice from the equation. The club has to extend and hope he regains his form.
Woodward is at fault here (again) for handing out bloated contracts to practically anyone willing to play for the club. The same guy who thought paying Jesse Lingard £100k a week was a good idea. Mind-boggling stuff.
Is a Pogba type situation that bad? Focusing in on Rashford here, let’s say the club was to renew and then his form doesn’t pick up and they decide to sell him, the overlap of clubs that can afford his wages, and clubs that would be interested in getting him is likely to be very small. And then we risk getting stuck with an underperforming player on huge wages again. “Protecting the value of the player” is a concept that has not yielded a single positive outcome for us in the last decade.
I am almost sure the club will not try to sell him this summer, and fair enough. However if he does not improve then there’s no harm in letting him walk for free. If his form does improve then the club can extend his contract at that point.
We could always offer a decreased wage due to poor performance. It's then upto him whether he wants to stay or chase more money
I agree that the problem is bloated contracts, but I think its best for us to let him go.
He is different from the Pogba situation. We didn't pay a transfer fee for neither Rashford nor Lingard.
So let him go if he wants to or accept a reduced salary.
Can you imagine the pr uproar that would be caused by his team if United offers him a reduced wage?
So let him go if he wants to or accept a reduced salary.
Can you imagine the pr uproar that would be caused by his team if United offers him a reduced wage?
Yup, he deserves a payrise. And Shaw too. Maybe we should renegotiate the Maguire contract and increase his salary as well, so that his hurt feelings after the booing are assuaged
I would like to announce that I am considering my future too, as is everyone else that I know.
I didn't know there was that option in his contract, but yeah that's probably the way to go. He certainly hasn't earned a salary increase nor would it help him long-term.
To make decision this Summer. Offer him contract, and if he refuse, just sell him.
You realise I said we should re-sign him before the 1 year is left if he regains his form?
Correction: offer him an incentive based contract with significantly lower base pay than his current deal. If he doesn't like it, then there's the door to Newcastle this summer.
He's not going to refuse, is he? He isn't going to get paid anywhere near the same amount anywhere else. He's been on the same wage as Salah and Hary Kane for years. Do you think he's fit to lace eithers boots? He'll be getting a wage hike for sure. It wouldn't surprise me if he asks for parity with Sancho who's on a ridiculous wage as well at 350k p/w.
Shaw will probably be offered a hike as well putting him on the same wage as TAA and twice as much as Robertson. Our club seems to think it's easier giving players undeserved contract extensions with a wage increase than signing players a lot better and a cheaper wage as it doesn't require much work.if we don't get out of this habit we're not winning anything for the foreseeable future. We give Rashford an extension in the summer then we've nobody else to blame but ourselves for the shitshow that's sure to follow.
We're idiots with wage structure. Couldn't be a clearer metaphor for how the club runs. It would be literally impossible for any normal club to run such a structure without going into financial ruin. One of the only places you get paid CL winning salaries + for a team that struggles to stay in the top 4.
If we're serious about turning a new page in terms of "structure" and whatnot, we should definitely look at the way contracts have been handled.
In Rashford's case, he's already on huge money. So, we obviously can't offer him a worse deal than he already has. But we don't have to offer him an improved contract.
If he wants short-term security, we can offer him an extension (one year) on the same terms.
If he doesn't agree to that, the alternatives are obvious: he can leave next year...or he can play well enough next season to make us offer him a new and improved contract.
Prove your worth, then get an improved contract - seems like a simple enough concept.
In Rashford's case, he's already on huge money. So, we obviously can't offer him a worse deal than he already has. But we don't have to offer him an improved contract.
If he wants short-term security, we can offer him an extension (one year) on the same terms.
If he doesn't agree to that, the alternatives are obvious: he can leave next year...or he can play well enough next season to make us offer him a new and improved contract.
Prove your worth, then get an improved contract - seems like a simple enough concept.
I like that idea.
We used to have a model where young players were offered - let's say - decent money. And then told that there's a hell of a lot more coming if they do well.
"Doing well" is relative, of course.
But the current policy seems to be more like "do a minimum" = "huge new contract".
Which makes no sense.
As I keep saying - the Glazers aren't stingy in terms of wages (at all), the problem is that they're pissing away money on stupid contracts (and extensions).
Sell him to who?
whoever interested at good price. How should i know what other clubs think?
I wouldn't of thought the Glazers had anything to do with contracts/extensions. My money is on Ed on the final say and now he's gone maybe, just maybe we will have learned from past mistakes.
Things are (slightly ) pointed in the right direction with Bruno. If rumours of his extension/ wage increase up to 240k are true then we're on the right track. He could of easily have asked for parity with someone like Sancho (ridiculous wage) as he is our most influential player but the club seem to have put him on a wage that they think is in the ball park and I have to say I do agree with it. It's still a lot in comparison of what other clubs offer their star players (non oil clubs) but for us it does seem to be a sensible number.
Pogba, Rashford and Shaw are going to be interesting to see the new direction this club wants to take. I have to say I have very little faith due to past dealings with other players and their contracts but you just never know. Or do we?
The fickle brigade wanting to sell Rashford can do one and feck right off. Get him under a proper manager and we’ll see the best of him again.
So his absolutely dire form and noticeable lack of hustle has been the result of coaching? Ok then....
Again? SO what exactly is the best of Rashford and that is a serious question.
Yes he is talented, yes he has had good spells....but none have lasted that long and he is now meant to be reaching his peak.
The best Rashford still probably struggles to get int he current England squad and cerainly doesnt start, there are many ahead of him.
He isnt world class and if he is seriously considering his future and wanting to elave after being dire for so long, why on earth should we be triggering the extra year in his contract?
Personally, only reasons for him being offered a new contract when his value is supposedly so high, is commercially....see LVG is actually right.
I am not saying Rashford isnt a talented player, but there are literally loads of wingers arounf Europe that are better than him in my opinion and his poor form and considering of future just for me says we should indoutedly sell him, his best position is left wing, it isnt a priority to replace, if we signed a right winger he doesnt start over SAncho if both play well, |Rashford out of form ELanga comes on over him too, football wise he actually hold little value to us at the moment
Trust me.We have seen the best of Marcus Rashford,it was his break through season.Sell.
After you're done here are you going to moan about Bruno and his new contract too?
Rashford is a fairly productive and good player when on form. We don't need world class players in every position to have a team challenging for the title. Having academy players like Rashford in the squad is vitally important to United as a club, and is evidenced by some of our great teams of the past where academy players who bled for the club would on occasion outshine the world class talent around them. Darren Fletcher who was maligned by many in his early years comes to mind.
Rashford's contributions sadly get watered down since we are in a down period, but it doesn't preclude the fact that he is actually a player good enough to play for United despite the short memories of many on here. Selling him is completely foolish and shortsighted.
I doubt anyone will wanna pay for him and pay those wages.whoever interested at good price. How should i know what other clubs think?
Newcastle, PSG
This. For all of Rashford's fault, that was a terrible terrible post. The guy basically turned into a psychiatrist and broke down Rashford in front of all of us
Some of the posts on this thread a few pages back are just plain fecking weird.
Yes he's been shite, yes it's reasonable to think he should be sold if that's your stance but assuming the bloke's character and values over how he plays football is baffling
Also getting frustrated that he is using his platform to do good when he's playing football to a level that doesn't meet your standards, it's a little loopy.
It's right a lot of footballers don't make their charity public and that's fine but there is a lot of benefit to be gained from exposure. His public approach is how he got such a backing with his political movements in the first place, but nothing was mentioned then since he was playing good football. You don't need to be a great footballer to try be a great human being. The latter will always take precedence over the former. Football is his job, If he's deemed not good enough for United he will go elsewhere, but thats no reason for him to not utilise his platform
Yes he's been shite, yes it's reasonable to think he should be sold if that's your stance but assuming the bloke's character and values over how he plays football is baffling
Also getting frustrated that he is using his platform to do good when he's playing football to a level that doesn't meet your standards, it's a little loopy.
It's right a lot of footballers don't make their charity public and that's fine but there is a lot of benefit to be gained from exposure. His public approach is how he got such a backing with his political movements in the first place, but nothing was mentioned then since he was playing good football. You don't need to be a great footballer to try be a great human being. The latter will always take precedence over the former. Football is his job, If he's deemed not good enough for United he will go elsewhere, but thats no reason for him to not utilise his platform
Yea I could see Newcastle, I think psg will be looking for better. They can afford it.