70 million that's already been paid for, in the form of Sancho, Elanga and Garnacho.
Rashford considering his future...
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72m was the Sancho fee + the 350k a week on a 5 year, potentially 6 you're talking upwards of 100m on wages too. There's no way we let Rashford go and go into the new season with a front line of Sancho, Ronaldo (maybe) and Elanga, unless we're content with another year of fighting for top 6.
I can’t believe some of the shit being tossed Rashford’s way. It would be an absolute disgrace if we sold him to a rival like arsenal. You can’t ever make supporters happy. If we let him run down his contract, the club is incompetent for allowing that to happen. If we move to negotiate an extension for a player who has shown in the past could be very good and score us about 15 goals per season, we’re incompetent. If Ten Hag is truly the front runner, then let him coach Rashford out of this mess. Ten Hag has a proven track history of improving players who were deemed surplus or castaways by other clubs.
I mean based on his current form, that's going to be our frontline next season irrespective of whether Rashford stays or goes. If he stays and continues to put on those stinker of performances, then he'll be continuing to warm the bench, albeit with a fatter paycheck.
The best solution here is to cash in on him while his stock is still relatively high, and invest that in bolstering our attacking options. It makes no sense giving him a contract that makes him a better paid player than the likes of Salah and Kane (which he pretty much already is) while he does nothing but hamper us when on the pitch.
Slightly pedantic but okay, you get the point.. We would have Sancho, Elanga, Pellistri, Amad and Garnacho as options for the wing. Rashford sale could help fund a much needed CF, or even two if Ronaldo leaves. Rashford on current form combined with his awful work rate and constant PR drama isn't worth the hassle.
Because that's what we do. We extended Smalling, Jones and many others for no apparent reason
How much do you reckon Rashford would go for? As for the rest I'm sorry but it's more than likely 3 of the players you listed there won't see much game time never mind being 1st team players.
Rashford is a Manchester lad. We are and will be his first choice.
No one is going to pay Rashford more wages than what we are giving him now or in the new contract.
Rashford is on a 4+1 year contract. Trigger his extension and he has > 2 years left on his contract.
There is absolutely no reason to open a contract extension talk and give him a higher salary. We can get Ten Hag, see what happens and revisit Rashford extension one year from now. There is almost zero chance that he will say no.
50/60 mil, that'll get us the much needed CF I'd like to think. Those 3 players have great potential, I'd rather us play Amad or Pellistri on the right wing (along with Sancho or Elanga) over Rashford, and having Sancho, Elanga and Garnacho as options on the left wing is more than adequate for next season.
This is the key thing here. If anything it might give him the kick up the arse, knowing he has to prove himself to warrant a new deal, or to impress his potential suitors. Give him a new bumper deal after a dreadful 18 months and you've basically disincentivised him from even bothering.
Re-signing Rashford already kills any excitement for next season. It means nothing has nor will change. Reward poor performance for an already astronomically over-priced player by upping his wages even more.
Any new manager has zero chance to motivate this club with a squad of players that know they can just continue to down tools if they don't like being asked to work hard and wait the manger out until he's scapegoated and fired. With a good chance of also getting a new contract.
Any new manager has zero chance to motivate this club with a squad of players that know they can just continue to down tools if they don't like being asked to work hard and wait the manger out until he's scapegoated and fired. With a good chance of also getting a new contract.
Didn't we sell Smalling to Roma?
Rashford seems to think his standing in the team/world football is a lot higher than his actually current ability. Not bashing him but he needs to bin the off field stuff and focus on his day job.
How long is it taking him?
He's more dense than Jesse Lingard.
He's more dense than Jesse Lingard.
Bang on.
Hopefully, Ten Hag can get Rashford playing again. Worst case scenario; giving him a new contract at the very least ensures we get a healthy fee if selling him on becomes the only option.
United fans are so far from reality. Never in a million years would we sell rashford this summer. Not only would he not find a lot of suitors, we would not be in a position to command any sort of 'decent' fee. A renewal was always going to happen.
I only hope that we dont throw crazy wages at him ( hes already on a lot ). Add performance bonuses into the contract which ups his pay but keep the base low for gods sake.
I only hope that we dont throw crazy wages at him ( hes already on a lot ). Add performance bonuses into the contract which ups his pay but keep the base low for gods sake.
What kind of magic is this? If Ten hag comes and we decide to sell him, it will be because he has fallen further on form. Which means we will not get any healthy fee if we sell him. And no one will pay his salary. So he will just stick around till end of his new contract, while earning 275k or way more pw.
Yup. We are a family. Throw away the contract extension. We will have a family chat in Mar 2024.
Translation: all the links to PSG and Barca were made up by my agent and United is my only option.
Mentions the goalscoring record a day after Rooney says it 
What the feck is he talking about a good preseason? Were in the middle of a season now! You cant have a seasons worth of shit form and write off months of games for 'ill get my act together next season'.
Yeah forgive me for not buying it.
We were told it was his injuries that hampered him last season. So we let him have his surgeries and gave him as much time as he needed to recover. Yet he came back poorer than ever.
What happens then if after Rashford gets a full preseason with a new manager and still stinks the place up. Who do we blame next? The new manager?
There has to be a point where we act ruthless for once and pull up the drawbridge instead of shoehorning his mediocrity into the team for the sake of PR.
That's like the worst case scenario, I guess
What bothers me is that the club has decided to extend his contract without consulting the new manager, same for Luke Shaw by all accounts. Would it not have made more sense to allow Ten Hag time to assess the squad's capabilities and decide for himself on who he wants to keep?
Ok my bad then. I understood it as "in worst case scenario, we extend and get a healthy fee"That's like the worst case scenario, I guess
What bothers me is that the club has decided to extend his contract without consulting the new manager, same for Luke Shaw by all accounts. Would it not have made more sense to allow Ten Hag time to assess the squad's capabilities and decide for himself on who he wants to keep?
I am not in favor of extending any of the existing lot. None of them deserve any new contracts, unless we are talking about decreasing their salaries for gross incompetence.
Getting a bumper new contract then.
We're the only club that reward consistent poor performances.
Might need 100 years to do that at current rate“Try to reach the club’s goalscoring record one day”
Well a pre-season is just a 4-week training session. If Rashford needs it so badly to resume form, then this international break already counts two weeks . He has lost his place in last two months so no need to prepare for starting each game. So just request the 1-month time to have special training session and back in form.
Or maybe just feck off for another excuse here ?
I don't get this pre season bullshit. Its 4 weeks like you said, he must have trained on things when he was coming back from injury.
There was a week off in January for the winter break and 2 weeks now. What does he want?
Watch when it comes to the summer, the headlines will say Rashford needs extra week of to recover then come pre season or whatever.
Yes, worked brilliantly with Jones, Rojo, a certain goalkeeper etc etc etc.
The worst case scenario by giving him a new contract now is that he continues to perform the way he has for the past 15 months or so, and that there isn’t a single club in the world willing to sign him:
- for a decent fe
- on anywhere near his wages
And that we’ll quite simply be stuck with a player that is very well aware that he’ll never get close to earning similar amounts of money somewhere else, so he’ll stick around until he can bugger off for free.
That’s the worst case scenario.
That's like the worst worst-case scenario, though. Clearly there are levels to this stuff.
Rashford will be out of contract the summer after next, meaning he'll go for free if the club chooses not to renew it. That's just bad business, I'm sure you'll agree. We may as well give him a new contract now and hope he turns his form around. Failing that, at least we'll have a bargaining chip when it comes to selling him on the following summer.
In any case, Rashford isn't the biggest concern for the club right now. For me, the priority this summer should be upgrading the long-neglected midfield. I cannot express how disappointed I'll be if we start next season with McFred in the midfield
they had a week off when ole was sacked aswell
Only if I was allowed to post that image where someone reaches out to their drawer full of excuses.
That's like the worst worst-case scenario, though. Clearly there are levels to this stuff.
Rashford will be out of contract the summer after next, meaning he'll go for free if the club chooses not to renew it. That's just bad business, I'm sure you'll agree. We may as well give him a new contract now and hope he turns his form around. Failing that, at least we'll have a bargaining chip when it comes to selling him on the following summer.
In any case, Rashford isn't the biggest concern for the club right now. For me, the priority this summer should be upgrading the long-neglected midfield. I cannot express how disappointed I'll be if we start next season with McFred in the midfield
We can extend his contract until 2024, given his form the past 15 months i’m not entirely sure i see the point in handing him a long term contract extension, especially if it involves increasing his wages in any way. If he doesn’t improve by christmas, then we’re talking two years of not performing well enough. What do we do then? If there’s one thing we’ve proven without doubt, it’s that the contracts our players are on won’t be matched anywhere else. Expensive long term contracts given to players we can’t get rid of needs to be a thing of the past.
From my point of view, we still have two years before he can feck off on a free transfer, which is plenty of time for Rashford to show he actually deserves an extension. Until he does, we should consider the fact that he’s already on a contract that no one else is going to match
Sell him already.
I agree. We can begin talks now fine. But absolutely no need to agree on anything until we see how he does next season. If he's not able to make England's WC squad then we'll know he's not worth an increase in wages then.
My thoughts as well. Give him up to the WC to see if he can recuperate his form. That will give him 3-4 months to fight for his United career and us 18 months if he doesn't look like he's going to and try and get something for him. Even if it's only a nominal fee it will send a message to the rest of the squad that no one is safe if they're not performing. I'd say a large percentage of our problems stem from our players coasting knowing it doesn't really matter how they play given that a lot of our players have been given new contracts without earning it or being past it.
I will be absolutely livid if he's given a new contract with a pay rise this summer although given our track record with extensions it wouldn't surprise me.