One can pass medical tests and be off peak fitness.
Rashford considering his future...
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Maybe the reports are true and he wants to leave, so plays half assed to get the move. He may also think this would lower his fee and the board would be more open to him leaving.
Its as good a theory as all the others.
Its as good a theory as all the others.
Not for a whole season in a football club.
Rashford missed the few months of the season to recover from the surgery and it wouldn’t be unlike Ole to rush a player back before he’s fully fit.
Let’s take a step back. It can’t be that he’s forgotten how to play football. Rashford is now in what should be the prime of his career. It could be a mental health issue. In fact I recall a discussion here a months ago about Marcus suffering from depression because his girlfriend dumped him. I don’t know if there’s any truth to that claim though. But he’s clearly lost that burst of acceleration he had two seasons ago. Top players go through bad patches of form but other than a fitness problem or age, a top player shouldn’t lose their pace at 24.
And this is how I see it too.
He was a very Gung Ho all action player. He has now lost stuff like pace, acceleration and physical energy whilst he has also lost mental confidence on top of that too.
To make life harder for him, he is being played in his weaker position at RW so isn't really making any sort of progress either.
I don’t know whether he’s just lost it or there are other factors
What I do understand
(1) His career would’ve been a lot better if United had continuity of coaches or winning culture. He looks as raw as he was 5 yrs ago
(2) He may need a change in scenery where there isn’t so much emotion entangled with playing since he’s a homeboy
(3) He definitely needs to refocus only on the game.
What I do understand
(1) His career would’ve been a lot better if United had continuity of coaches or winning culture. He looks as raw as he was 5 yrs ago
(2) He may need a change in scenery where there isn’t so much emotion entangled with playing since he’s a homeboy
(3) He definitely needs to refocus only on the game.
The reason he is being criticised is nothing to do with feeding kids and "all lives matter vibes" as some have suggested. The idea that what he does off the pitch should have no influence on how he is treated on it is correct but those defending him need to consider that too. We cant keep trotting out the idea that there is sinister forces at work every time he is criticised. Its not because he "fed kids" and its not because he is black and actually from my personal POV its not even because he is playing badly.
The reason I am criticising him is in direct rebuttal to those who are making excuses/offering reasons for his 18 months of poor form and his terrible play AND his apparent lack of interest and effort on the pitch.
First it was an injury, then it was another injury , then it was burnout due to playing with said injury, then it was not receiving from the injury, then it was possible mental health issues based on nothing more than a complete lack of effort on his part. I don't know any other player who has ever been defended like this and in the most part it makes no sense.
For a man with such advanced PR if he is struggling post-injury Im amazed he haven't heard. If he is having mental health issues Im amazed we haven't heard. When each reason for being poor is debunked we move on to the next thing rather than level the criticism at the player as we would do with almost every other player thats ever played for the club.
Ronaldo scores 20 goals and plays as he does and its all an inquest into whether he fits in, if he is harming the dressing room and the style of play. Rashford is 10 times worse and without the 20 goals and its all , do you think he's ok mentally?
The reason I am criticising him is in direct rebuttal to those who are making excuses/offering reasons for his 18 months of poor form and his terrible play AND his apparent lack of interest and effort on the pitch.
First it was an injury, then it was another injury , then it was burnout due to playing with said injury, then it was not receiving from the injury, then it was possible mental health issues based on nothing more than a complete lack of effort on his part. I don't know any other player who has ever been defended like this and in the most part it makes no sense.
For a man with such advanced PR if he is struggling post-injury Im amazed he haven't heard. If he is having mental health issues Im amazed we haven't heard. When each reason for being poor is debunked we move on to the next thing rather than level the criticism at the player as we would do with almost every other player thats ever played for the club.
Ronaldo scores 20 goals and plays as he does and its all an inquest into whether he fits in, if he is harming the dressing room and the style of play. Rashford is 10 times worse and without the 20 goals and its all , do you think he's ok mentally?
There is a reason Rooney is all time record goal scorer and has won everything with the club in his career.
Looking back, what he achieved in his career is incredible considering he was a heavy drinker
At United, even I'd be passed as fit and I couldn't run for more than ten minutes.
Makes you wonder if there was another level in him we'll never know about. I was convinced 22 year old Rooney was going to be a world player of the year.
He’ll never do it but Rashford would do well to sack off his agent (who I think is his brother?) and refocus on footbal.
Rooney saying this in public is interesting. Wayne's not the type to say something like this if he has no understanding of the situation. A lot of the time when asked about United he just says he doesn't know cos he's not at the club.
I don't think Wayne would've made these comments about what's going on with Rashford, unless someone at United had told him that Rashford has his head stuck up his ar$£ at the moment. Kinda speaks to the state of the dressing room.
Any opinion of Rashford behind closed doors likely came from Carrick before he left, think he and Rooney were really close in their playing days.
Common sense here.
Maybe? Rooney is close to a lot of people at United. Not just people like Darren Fletcher and Mike Phelan. Remember a lot of staff at United have been there for a long, long time. They've seen the best and worst of Rooney and kept it in house. If he wants a general feel for how things are going at the club he can pick up the phone to a lot of people.
But he is depressed, and disabled
Perhaps not you personally but in regards to a lot of the criticism in general you can't make that claim going off the last few pages of this thread.
Seems like Rooney doesn't want him to leave United because he is a United lad 
Guess he's going to get what he wants, a fat new paycheck for his absolutely disgraceful performances, nothing new from this club
Cheaper to keep under performing players than sign new ones I guess. It'll never change while the Glazers own the club
Next is probably Jlingz.
like i said before he's having a poor season he just has to play his way back into form. there's no other way
work on his fitness, clear his head, make those opportunties count.
work on his fitness, clear his head, make those opportunties count.
I agree, its called 'running into a brick wall', its what happens when your life moves faster then you anticipate and at the same time the thing your good at stops working.
Surely with all their resources the club can get him the help he needs?
This culture of rewarding players who don’t deserve it is one of our biggest problems. Breeds players who aren’t interested in winning at all, this is a large part of the reason why barely anyone in our squad seems motivated by glory.
Motivated by anything.
Imagine a new coach coming in and threatening to boot players out of the club. Every player will be laughing their faces off. They know that the club decides their futures, not the coach.
Maybe that's the way it should be? At a lot of clubs you have a Sporting Director or a President that decides the philosophy of the club and fits the pieces inside that. However, the worry is the guys doing it at our club? Do we think Richard Arnold has as clear an idea of how the club needs to go as say Laporta at Barca..?
Yeah, seeing more of Rashford the saviour sulking around OT and Luke 'one good season out of 8 but I want love' Shaw is really going to get my excitement levels up for next season.
Bring in Poch and we will be on a firm trajectory to the Conference league year in, year out.
So rangnick wasn't backed because the board didn't want to impose players on the new permanent manager but they will still handout bumper contracts to lazy fecks without consulting the said permanent manager or delaying the contract negotiations by a couple of months until the said permanent manager is here ?
Cant expect this club to do a single right thing. Keep rewarding mediocrity. Why would anyone put 100% effort when you can get renewals by putting in absolute dogshit performances week in week out?
Well said, both you and @Bebestation . It can get so depressing to read so much vitriol and hate.
fecking hell. These guys used to get rewarded for mediocrity. Now they're getting rewarded for downright failure.
Man it’s gotta be easy to be a footballer playing for ManUtd. Have a couple good years, then start sucking at your job, get a pay raise. I wish my company was run this way too.
I understand wanting to keep him, but a new deal? Unless its on reduced wages (we all know it isn’t) it makes no sense.
I understand wanting to keep him, but a new deal? Unless its on reduced wages (we all know it isn’t) it makes no sense.
If true, this is a ridiculous decision to extend Rashford's contract right now.
where were you guys when Fellaini and others faced much more than what they are saying about Rashford?
Hes been utterly dreadful for way longer than just this season. He has turned into Jesse Lingard without the running around bit.
I agree. I do feel it’s not what we are exposed to here which are online trolls though.
What a bizarre strawman. I personally don't remember Fellaini baselessly being compared to someone who has sexual assault/rape charges against him.