UnitedSofa
You'll Never Walk Away
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We finished 3rd with 66 points and 2nd with 74 points under Ole, something that will never happen. The standards of the league in both seasons were shit.
This kind of attitude belongs in the 90s. And even then, man management was important.
The league is not "shit" it competitive, during those "shit" season United made a Europa League semi final and final. and Chelsea and City both made to the UCL final, if the Premier League was "shit" what was rest of Europe?
Edited: tried to quote a poster but phone is infuriating.
Sorry for out of context post.
Competitive? When we finished 3rd with 66 points, the 2nd spot was City with 81 points, 15 points ahead of us, and Liverpool won the league with 99 points, 18 points ahead of City.
Next season we finished 2nd with 74 points while City were first with 86 points, 12 whole points ahead of us.
That's not called a competitive league. There's one or two teams who are far ahead of everyone else while the rest are mediocre or simply awful. It's the same this season, Liverpool and City are miles away from everyone else and are playing in their league while the rest of the league has been shit. Chelsea who are 3rd now are actually having an awful league campaign.
Not to mention, when we finished 2nd, Liverpool had a season with injury crisis in which they spent the majority of the season without their entire defense, and Chelsea sacked their manager midway after their league campaign had already been fecked with Lampard underperforming at the start. Still, we only finished 5 points only ahead of Liverpool.
The PL has been quite boring and lacking any quality for some years now. Media are trying to show that the league has 6 big guns but the reality is it's only Liverpool and City, while the rest are struggling to even finish 4th.
What's the achievement in United reaching EL semi or final? That's the least I will expect from Man United playing such in shit competition. Did you see our route when we reached the semi and got KOed by Seville? We played Club Brugge, LASK and Copenhagen. Great achievement reaching the semi indeed. Literally the first good team we met in this tournament knocked us out.
Anyone who's blaming the manager after a shitshow of a season is delusional, which you appear to be.Worst take ever. Clearly you know nothing about football.
we are terrible, and 80% of the issue is Ralf. The worse we get, mentally, the longer it will take to build us back up.
It’s quite amazing to read so many who don’t understand such a 101 of the management. It’s like they have never worked in a real world workplace. There are bad apples but claiming the majority or all of them are bad apples are simply ridiculous and against basic common sense.It is the job of the manager to improve the attitudes of these players.
Improve. This is quite simple. And it is true for any job, any company. Improve. Not make perfect. Improve. If the manager cannot improve the attitudes of those under him, he is not a good manager.
Top 4 trophy missed. What a sad day for our club.
Genuinely, the club took a different, more football approached route. Took the risk and clearly wanted to change this shitshow we've been watching, but no, should have gone for Conte. There is a reason why that man is managaing Spurs. Its not because he waits Guardiola to leave City. Or Madrid will call him.
Let's feck off ten Hag by December if it doesn't go well and try to lure Simeone next season.
Then drop them? Sick of reading this after every game. How big of a fool do you have to be to keep playing players who won't listen to you?
At this point multiple managers have said it…It’s quite amazing to read so many who don’t understand such a 101 of the management. It’s like they have never worked in a real world workplace. There are bad apples but claiming the majority or all of them are bad apples are simply ridiculous and against basic common sense.
Think Ralf knows he can get away with it cos he's only here for 6 months. I doubt a permanent manager would. Jose tried and it didn't get him too far.I have high hopes for ETH but I really really hope he doesn't follow on the footsteps of Ralf in terms of airing dirty laundry in public and basically blaming everything on the players again in public. Its just a quick way to lose your players and there's no coming back from that for any manager.
They haven’t given him the time of day, I’d say it’s some-what warrented.I have high hopes for ETH but I really really hope he doesn't follow on the footsteps of Ralf in terms of airing dirty laundry in public and basically blaming everything on the players again in public. Its just a quick way to lose your players and there's no coming back from that for any manager.
It’s quite amazing to read so many who don’t understand such a 101 of the management. It’s like they have never worked in a real world workplace. There are bad apples but claiming the majority or all of them are bad apples are simply ridiculous and against basic common sense.
I have high hopes for ETH but I really really hope he doesn't follow on the footsteps of Ralf in terms of airing dirty laundry in public and basically blaming everything on the players again in public. Its just a quick way to lose your players and there's no coming back from that for any manager.
He hasn't really been choosing Telles over Shaw. Shaw's been injured, had covid or was suspended for almost the entire time Ralf has been here, but the only time that he was fit he was first choice.
Dalot comfortably outperformed AWB in the early part of Ralf's reign. He certainly wasn't great, but he was better than AWB was playing. It's been much closer the last couple of months, but it's not like AWB has grabbed the opportunities when Rangnick has given him the chance.
How is that his fault exactly? He wasn't allowed to get any players that he may have wanted to bring in.Rangnick has done a cracking job at taking absolutely no responsibility for results or the state of the squad under him. It’s actually quite impressive.
We should hire both Simone and Conte we can give Ten Hag one hour and if its not working then bring in the big boys
When and where?to back it up Ronaldo called it out very quickly
Read the first sentence and yet another one who just doesn’t get it. If he was only here to secure top 4 as an interim then why has he been offered a consultancy role. His role is much greater than just getting us top 4, it’s giving a fair assessment of the squad for the next manager and the board. He’s honest, no bullshit and it’s what is sorely needed long term over just securing top 4, which only serves the owners.
Live in a real world, mate! However much we might not like it, the only winner in that scenario will always be the players.These players don't give a shit about the club or the fans and don't bother to fight for them. A manager losing such kind of players is a bonus. If the players are toxic and don't care, slaughter them then sell their arses.
These players has given nothing for the team to care about keeping them or caring about their feeling.
If Ten Hag falls with the players, there should be only one winner here.
There’s no bitterness. He is ineffective and shouldn’t be here is the point.
How is that his fault exactly? He wasn't allowed to get any players that he may have wanted to bring in.
Live in a real world, mate! However much we might not like it, the only winner in that scenario will always be the players.