Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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I think people will be very surprised at what hiring a great manager will do for this club. Not all our problems will be fixed overnight but we'll see a drastic improvement if ten Hag is the answer. I'll leave it at that.
 
He was managing a Norwegian team. The achievement is relative to the team you’re managing. Is winning the Dutch League with by far the biggest club a reasonable achievement or par for the course?
The Dutch league is more established than the Norweigen league and he has other pedigree too. You know, like not relegating a club for starters.
 
They’re a hell of a lot better than this. He can’t even set up a team to defend despite blatantly trying to.
Did you not hear his post match interview? He clearly asked them to not press at the half way line...ffs. they don't listen and think there useless.
 
On another hand, Ralf has a win percentage of 41% and our next 5 games are Arsenal, Chelsea, Brentford, Brighton away and Palace away.

Guy might enter history and finish his United career at win percentage of 35-39% or something, something you'll expect from a relegating club.
 
Feel sorry for Ralf, this group of players has thrown another manager under the bus.

To be fair I think he's doing a good job of getting his revenge on them for it. By fielding these wasters week in week out he's showing the world how bad they are, which will limit their options for transfers and weaken their hands when negotiating wages. Sure it's hurting us too, but we we're fecked either way when they didn't repay the faith shown in them by Ole.
 
How come they were better last season and not now? You don't just lose all ability as a football player in one season. Why was there zero new manager bounce? Why has Rangnick failed to implement his ideas whereas all the other previous managers did?
They did whatever they wanted last season and Solskajer took the fall for them every time. They also had coaches who knew them and the PL inside out and played to their strengths. The inmates are generally happy when they're running the asylum.
 
Bar maybe 35 mins against Palace this team have treated him like total crap. The likes of Terry & Drogba would never have allowed their teammates to down tools on an interim but this dressing room has no leaders.
 
6 years aye Ralf, just like the players. Always shifts blames, talks a good game without ever implementing one. These players have given up, no doubt. Managers manage, he hasn't improved one aspect of us since he came in. Like to see anyone argue otherwise. Long road back but put it this way, be best impossible to be worse next year, awful watch. Sad times.
 
This is what happens when you hire someone who wants to be director of football to the manager position:a demotivated manager and team

P.S. This season will soon overshadow Mourinho's last season with us.
 
How come they were better last season and not now? You don't just lose all ability as a football player in one season. Why was there zero new manager bounce? Why has Rangnick failed to implement his ideas whereas all the other previous managers did?
It is not about ability. This is about pride, passion, honour and putting your heart and soul in it. When players stop caring you can be whoever and still it will be the same.
 
Honestly, I was never expecting much from Rangnick's interim reign anyway, but he's not done a good job. That does NOT excuse the players but plain and simple we do not even remotely resemble a tactically coherent side under him, and the improvement from what was a complete disaster of a start under Solskjaer has been underwhelming.

I didn't get excited about the guy for his managerial nous, anyway. It's the work he does upstairs in the next two years that will define whether or not he is a net positive for the club; this season has been a write-off.
 
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This is not on manager. I don't know how many times people need to hear that. It wasn't Solskjaer fault. It isn't Rangnick fault.
Wow so now it's not the terrible coach Solskjaer's fault? The man that 90 odd percent of people on here said could not coach a side and had barely any tactical acumen? It's JUST the players. The (mostly) same players that under Ole and Mourinho finished second and third? The latter having won two trophies? That's just delusion of the highest order, these players are not total shit. They have been poorly coached and led, which has resulted in an awful culture. They are demoralized, and a strong man manager and leader is needed to instill discipline and a new work ethic. Sometimes that is all that is needed to sort some of the issues out. Yes, new players will be needed, but a change of culture is the number one priority.
 
I will when it stops being a direct, incredibly recent comparison with the exact same group of players. In the meantime you’re welcome to ignore me.
Are you actually unable to grasp the context of the comparison you're making? Equating a 3 game stint where a pre-existing coach from the vibez squad comes in and tells all the little babies we have that they are really great and can go on the swings and get an ice cream vs. a guy who comes in for a pre-determined 6 months and tries to explain to these man children that they actually have no clue how to play the modern game, and that they need to train and play with far more intensity to get anywhere close to the teams they should be competing with, while getting zero new players tailor made for this approach.

Please explain to me how you can in any way, shape, or form compare these 2 situations and draw conclusions from them.
 
I don't think Rangnick is the problem here. He knows what he is doing, that's evident by how he reacts during the game.

It's the players, we all know it deep down.
He is a better director of football than manager. As a manager he is out of his depth
 
Can't understand some of his decisions, truly baffling to bring Elanga off and keep Rashford on.

Sooner he's not managing the team the better.
 
The best thing the fans of this club can do is back Ralf and show the players that their power is diminishing. Hopefully he will be a big part of this rebuild and will help us to get rid if a large number of these frauds.
 
Ya'll crazy if you don't see the bigger picture with Ralf

For sake of argument let's say he isn't a good manager/not doing a good job.

His appointment alone will still be worth it if he is shaking things up for a better future. I'd rather that then getting in another Yes man manager for these players who may end up getting top 4 this season but it ending up where the players are having power over the manager and then being a problem next season.

I couldn't care less if we don't get top4 this season if it means these players get the hell out of the club
 
It is not about ability. This is about pride, passion, honour and putting your heart and soul in it. When players stop caring you can be whoever and still it will be the same.
And whose job is it to make sure that the players are always motivated and will die for that shirt? There is only so much a person can do to motivate themselves in a workplace, the rest has to come from the manager to make them go that extra step. These players have been coached poorly for years and subject to endless chopping and changes and failure, no wonder a culture has developed to this terrible level. Do you always feel 100% motivated in an environment you dread working in? I know I don't, and I'm someone who is a hard worker naturally. Even I get demotivated in terrible workplaces, and under terrible management.
 
He hasn't had the impact we hoped for but deary me these players have checked out long ago.

This season has shown that a lot of these players should be nowhere near utd regardless of who the manager is.

I really hope the club backs ten hag 100% even if it means plenty of bumps along the way and us as fans have to show patience which I'm sure most will as long as the team shows some fight.
 
How can anyone blame Rangnick at this point honestly? The players are absolute frauds.
 
Weren't you moaning about him not picking different players before? I think it was clear to see from today that Hannibal isn't ready but someone had to come on

Pick them for Norwich at home first, not Liverpool away. And certainly don't they say they aren't ready to face Norwich only to give them a debut 3-0 down at Anfield 3 days later. That's insanity.

My gripe with him is that he talks the talk but doesn't attempt to walk the walk. I'm all for throwing these overpaid and lazy wankers under the bus but don't then go and pick those same overpaid and lazy wankers in the next game. Is there one valid reason why the likes of Maguire start every game?
 
I think people will be very surprised at what hiring a great manager will do for this club. Not all our problems will be fixed overnight but we'll see a drastic improvement if ten Hag is the answer. I'll leave it at that.

People were saying literally the exact same thing when Rangnick came in. Can't wait for ETH to get sacked and for this exact same narrative to be brought up yet again only for the next manager to flop too.
 
They did whatever they wanted last season and Solskajer took the fall for them every time. They also had coaches who knew them and the PL inside out and played to their strengths. The inmates are generally happy when they're running the asylum.
It sounds like it worked, look where they are now :lol:
 
How come they were better last season and not now? You don't just lose all ability as a football player in one season. Why was there zero new manager bounce? Why has Rangnick failed to implement his ideas whereas all the other previous managers did?

I've asked myseld those very questions, more than once this season. I haven't got a logical answer. All I know is we saw the same horrible team displays under Ole as we're seeing under Ralf. The same lacklustre, lethargic, predictable, mundane, I just don't give a shit performances, and the entire squad is equally at fault.

If it's not the players, what is the problem in your eyes?
 
Ya'll crazy if you don't see the bigger picture with Ralf

For sake of argument let's say he isn't a good manager/not doing a good job.

His appointment alone will still be worth it if he is shaking things up for a better future. I'd rather that then getting in another Yes man manager for these players who may end up getting top 4 this season but it ending up where the players are having power over the manager and then being a problem next season.

I couldn't care less if we don't get top4 this season if it means these players get the hell out of the club
Seconded.
 
I think people will be very surprised at what hiring a great manager will do for this club. Not all our problems will be fixed overnight but we'll see a drastic improvement if ten Hag is the answer. I'll leave it at that.
Yep.
 
Amazing that people are still giving this collection of frankly useless players a free pass.
 
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Ralf's interim manager role has turned out even better than I expected. I didn't have much expectations for transforming this team into pressing monsters and tactically adept without a full preseason. But I was hoping to see significant influence in the choice of the next manager and the recruitment side. He has been saying as much about all of these for months now but is finally cracking and also unearthing a lot of the rotten core amongst this player group that for way too long been deflected or made excuses for.

I quite sincerely am baffled by the debate around Ragnick as a manager on this thread. I never got the impression he was hired with any real chance of becoming full time - his record as one is decent but not at the level of United's needs but on the flip, his successful transformations from a recruitment and club structure standpoint is exceptional. This appointment always struck me as appeasing Ralf letting him handle the reigns for a period, test ride, to identify all the problem areas with his expertise.

And that's exactly what I'm seeing. The greatest thing that could happen is an extensive club clear out based on Ragnik's feedback. Keep the club legends out of the discussion. This has to be an outside consultants impartial view because there is no semblance of Manchester United in the team.
 
I've asked myseld those very questions, more than once this season. I haven't got a logical answer. All I know is we saw the same horrible team displays under Ole as we're seeing under Ralf. The same lacklustre, lethargic, predictable, mundane, I just don't give a shit performances, and the entire squad is equally at fault.

If it's not the players, what is the problem in your eyes?
It's partially the players, mentally anyway, they checked out because it's human nature to eventually stop caring in situations are club is in. It happens in workplaces all over the world. If they were in a club like Bayern where it's ran properly, there's a proper culture, a winning mentality, and a clear direction the club wants to go in, they would be highly motivated and playing so much better. You can see it even in smaller clubs that try to run in this way, Burnley is an example. Sure, they might get relegated this season, but the club clearly is quite a stable one considering quite a few of the players there were relegated a few years ago with them. Dyche being a manager that helps with that is important too. If you had to deal with years and years of failure, terrible management, even worse upper-management and your fellow players not bothering, how long would your motivation last? Not long.
 
Ralf will end up being a legend of this club. He’ll be the one that started to rid us of the rats and sewer leaches. I hope he gives ETH a full and concise brief.
 
Hopefully Ralf will become the advisor and there will be no hiding this time round.
Seeing as he’s staying on as a consultant he’ll surely have a handover meeting and pass on all knowledge of the players to the new manager, but then he’ll have seen pretty much all he needs to know by watching a game or two anyway.
 
Don’t laugh but the only tiny fragment of hope that I cling to by the very tips of my fingers is that getting Ralph Rangnick in was purely to find out about the players and staff at the club.

A fact finding mission rather than trying to get us into top 4. Go in, assess, report back at the end of the season and then stay on, help rebuild the club with a style of play and a plan that will bring us consistency whoever manages the club and that in a few years we will looking at Murtough or Arnold and saying what a genius idea it was they had….

Like I said, don’t laugh.
 
Says it clearly that players are not listening to his instructions and didn't even try. Damming interview but truthful.

 
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