Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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No because its clear these group of players aren't good enough, and even worse they haven't a good mentality. They've threw another manager under the bus for the audacity to call them out on there shitty attitudes and performances
They’re a hell of a lot better than this. He can’t even set up a team to defend despite blatantly trying to.
 
How can people continue to say it's not his fault it's the players when he's had six months to instill discipline and order into the squad and failed utterly? Even the fat Spanish waiter when he was at Chelsea won them the Europa League and got that team to play for him. Rangnick can't even get them to play decentish football and train to a good level, yet it's JUST the player's fault? The fact we have had ZERO new manager bounce under this man should be a sign he's been awful. At least Ole had a few good seasons before it went to shit.
 
Its absolutely blatant that this is the type of man who should be making footballing decisions going forward.
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Maybe it isn't fully justified but I trust him a lot more than any of the jokers that have been running this club.
 
It's the Ole inners who are still blaming Ralf. He is calling out as it is. He is absolutely spot on. Sell most of them. Who trained this lot for the past three years? He didn't even get a pre season to get them fit.

Enough with this shit, there's absolutely no one who thought Ole should stay after the 5-0 defeat to Liverpool. No one.
 
Didn't he say we were no more than three transfer Windows to being back at the top very recently?

He also said Hannibal wasn't ready for the PL before a home game against the 20th placed team but 3 days later he throws the same Hannibal to the wolves away to the league leaders. Makes it up as he goes.
 
They’re a hell of a lot better than this. He can’t even set up a team to defend despite blatantly trying to.
This. These players have been able to beat City and Liverpool, to finish second and third, yet now all of a sudden they are completely hopeless and terrible? The fans on here will delude themselves to believe literally anything to defend Rangnick.
 
It's his job to get them on his side and make them listen. It's what great managers do. The players are of course at massive fault for our problems this season but he isn't very good as a manager. Both things can be true. I'm hoping he has real input once he moves into this consultancy role because like I said I believe he's got the right ideas.
Well they aren't listening so what should he do ? Sell them ? We'll has no authority, buy someone else ? No authority again.

Great managers feck off players not listening instead of coddling them and making them understand again and again.

Ofcourse I don't say the manager is completely blameless, my take is that the manager has no authority and the players know it. For me more of the blame lies on the players than the manager.
 
The Norweigen league isn't comparable to any reasonable achievement. That's pretty much fact too.
He was managing a Norwegian team. The achievement is relative to the team you’re managing. Is winning the Dutch League with by far the biggest club a reasonable achievement or par for the course?
 
He also said Hannibal wasn't ready for the PL before a home game against the 20th placed team but 3 days later he throws the same Hannibal to the wolves away to the league leaders. Makes it up as he goes.
Weren't you moaning about him not picking different players before? I think it was clear to see from today that Hannibal isn't ready but someone had to come on
 
They listened to Carrick when he was interim. They listened to Ole when he was interim. Why won’t they listen to Rangnick? Maybe there’s more to it than you’re willing to acknowledge.
Jesus Christ can you please stop talking about Carrick :lol:
 
Didn't he say we were no more than three transfer Windows to being back at the top very recently?


He just said this post match on sky too. He said when you know what you need, for the system you want, it doesn't have to take long.

Rangnick is like giving a carpenter all the best bits of lego and glass and steel and asking him to make you a wooden boat.
 
‘Ralf who should we sign?’
‘There is a promising youngster, Florián Wirtz who will be a good player and also increase in value but he will need intensive coaching…hello are you listening?’
‘Sorry Ralf, just had Mino text me and he told us he’ll give us a deal, can you believe it he thinks he can get David Villa out of retirement for a £20m finders fee and £400k a year.’

Iniesta is still playing in Japan and he's only 37 years old. Sign him up for 500m pound a week, finally the solution for our midfield issues!
 
How can people continue to say it's not his fault it's the players when he's had six months to instill discipline and order into the squad and failed utterly? Even the fat Spanish waiter when he was at Chelsea won them the Europa League and got that team to play for him. Rangnick can't even get them to play decentish football and train to a good level, yet it's JUST the player's fault? The fact we have had ZERO new manager bounce under this man should be a sign he's been awful. At least Ole had a few good seasons before it went to shit.
This is not on manager. I don't know how many times people need to hear that. It wasn't Solskjaer fault. It isn't Rangnick fault.
 
They listened to Carrick when he was interim. They listened to Ole when he was interim. Why won’t they listen to Rangnick? Maybe there’s more to it than you’re willing to acknowledge.
They listened to their mates when it suited them because they let them do whatever they wanted.
 
He specifically called out the way they recover and the way they try to keep themselves fit. Perhaps even questioned the mentality.

No it’s the lack of professionalism at the club. The club are NOT designed from top to bottom to win. But it’s a simple change. Hire better people.
 
When a large group of people collectively stop listening to a manager it would be prudent to ask if the person giving the instructions is part of the problem.
Not when the same group of players did the same thing to the previous manager a few months back.

Fool me once.......
 
Ten Hag will be a disaster as well if we keep up with the same players.
How do you know? If the man comes in and does his job, as well as being a strong leader and getting rid of any problem elements, we won't have issues.
 
He calls everything as it is. Club is in tatters. Players walking around the pitch unable to gee themselves up for Liverpool.

The are simply pathetic, undeserving to wear any shirt really. Robbing a living.

People can also blame Ralf all they want. In the end he has a team of very poor individuals who clearly just don’t care. Lead by a reactive club that is always stuck in the past.

You can’t throw money at things and expect it to work. Club needs direction from above with a clear vision. Currently ANY manager will fail here, same mistakes over and over. From Moyes onwards, managers had feck all help when needed. Given the keys and told to solve it themselves - impossible.

Cultural reboot ends up as the worst squad we’ve had in the modern era.
 
I just cant understand people saying sack him honestly. He shouldnt have been hired as interim but the value he will provide behind the scenes will be very real.
 
You just know he hates Maguire. His lack of physicality and athleticism comments seem almost pointed towards the captain.
 
I don't think Rangnick is the problem here. He knows what he is doing, that's evident by how he reacts during the game.

It's the players, we all know it deep down.
 
Jesus Christ can you please stop talking about Carrick :lol:
I will when it stops being a direct, incredibly recent comparison with the exact same group of players. In the meantime you’re welcome to ignore me.
 
He just said this post match on sky too. He said when you know what you need, for the system you want, it doesn't have to take long.

Rangnick is like giving a carpenter all the best bits of lego and glass and steel and asking him to make you a wooden boat.
He said we were six years behind Liverpool, that's not three transfer windows.
 
How do you know? If the man comes in and does his job, as well as being a strong leader and getting rid of any problem elements, we won't have issues.

Look at the last 9 years. The board wont let him do what he wants. After a while, the squad will do what they do best when things get uncomfortbale, throw the manager under the bus.

They are not suited to Ten Hag, not technically, mentally or in any other shape or form. Losers the lot of them. Ten Hag wont stand a chance.
 
Some people in here completely dismissing Ralf as a fraud etc. are just spouting typical reactive nonsense without applying any logic or balance. He's clearly smart and his track record with identifying/developing talented players and coaches can't be denied. As a coach though, yep he leaves a lot to be desired.

The problem is that this squad is the antithesis of what Rangnick is. They need the arm round the shoulder and their egos massaged like Solskjaer did. Rangnick is cold and actively undermines confidence. Rangnick is a high press manager. We have a counter attacking, low block squad. He likes young and hungry players he can mould. We have a barely teachable group on ridiculous wages.

I've disliked his press conferences more and more as the season has gone on. Increasing shoulder shrugging, very little motivating or morale lifting. Vague comments wondering if the club will listen to him but nothing really direct until the last Sky Sports interview. All quite depressing, tepid, lacking energy and passion.

His tactics and game management has been woeful.

I honestly think we'd have been higher up the table had Ole stayed. I'm not saying it wasn't untenable towards the end there where Watford were tanking us but I believe Ole would've turned it round.

Maybe there's long term value in Ralf coming in, knocking the hornet's nest and exposing all that's wrong with the club. It informs his consultancy process much clearer. But my gosh, we finished 2nd last year. 2nd! How have we gotten so bad?! I know we have a very flawed squad but he's not done anything to maximise what he's got.

I'm desperate for him to be kept around and seriously listened to. I feel he can do amazing things in a club building sense, unearthing bargains, mentoring people like Fletcher and so on. But as an interim manager, there's little denying his work has been an utter shit show. The best thing he could've done would have been playing to the players' strengths, maximising their value, praising them to the hilt in the media and then selling them while they're worth a damn and we don't look like one of the shittest teams in the PL, which we clearly aren't.
 
Not when the same group of players did the same thing to the previous manager a few months back.

Fool me once.......
Did they though? Was there any rumours they stopped listening to Ole? I don’t recall them.
 
He did, and he's not contradicting himself here. United is performing on the same level as Liverpool did six years ago, but it doesn't take six years to get to their current level (as proven by Liverpool title win)

Liverpool sold Coutinho to get there. We just need the club to take a mini balance sheet loss for two years. That’s his point.
 
I don't think Rangnick is the problem here. He knows what he is doing, that's evident by how he reacts during the game.

It's the players, we all know it deep down.
How come they were better last season and not now? You don't just lose all ability as a football player in one season. Why was there zero new manager bounce? Why has Rangnick failed to implement his ideas whereas all the other previous managers did?
 
He just said this post match on sky too. He said when you know what you need, for the system you want, it doesn't have to take long.

Rangnick is like giving a carpenter all the best bits of lego and glass and steel and asking him to make you a wooden boat.
He said we can fix the squad to be competive in that time. Not get back to the top
 
The people that are STILL backing a squad of chancers and blaming everything on the guy who is telling you the truth.

What do these fecking losers have to do to some of you to wake the feck up. Does Maguire have to come over and shag your wife in front of you? Or are you habitual squad defenders into that? I can only assume and would be the sanest argument is that you just love rich people and their social medias.
 
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