Probably piss poor motivational skills as he always talks a good game ? How is Ten Hag doing here ? Klopp and Pep are good at both which is key to implement a modern style of play to a top team
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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He's really good at shrugging his shoulders.
I think he has given up the fight now. It's obvious the club is fecked and he simply can't be bothered. He didn't create this shitshow of a mess. It is his job to try and motivate that collective waste of space as best he can and could someone out there like Conte have done a better interim job? Most likely. Hopefully club sticks to the initial perception of why he was brought in, to listen to what he says and restructure club accordingly.
Ralf has called out the inadequacies of the club. He has exposed the issues we have and he is telling it like it is. Feck the board and feck these players.
no he just made it far far worst by killing the best attributes of this team under ole to “shore up” our defence.
he’s the worst interim I have ever seen appointed to a top club.
He's saying literally what any Caf poster will say. Hardly a stroke of genius here.
He's a good talker but that's about it. Absolute fraud.
If you want an example of someone who talks a lot without doing anything meaningful, there will be no better example than Ralf. Talks the talk but when it matters he stinks the bed.
A fraud, from every single perspective.
Why won’t they listen to him though? Players and manager at fault here.
I think he’s a good manager but he’s been underwhelming since he came in, I definitely expected more. He spoke up his ‘rock and roll’ style football but it’s been non existent.. I suspect it’s down to the players just not giving a sh*t but either way it hasn’t been good enough.
I know he's got to go for a European finishing spot, but holy hell Ralf make some changes. how can you continue to throw the same players out when they give you that kind of effort.
He has won nothing. His previous position was director - in Russia. Funny how Liverpool and Chelsea hired his "proteges". Yes, the players are a disgrace, but he's not exactly been a safe pair of hands. If a team of eleven employees stop doing their job, you can bet your backside the fingers will be pointed at the boss (I think the players know this). Maybe he's just playing the yes man, but that would be a lack of integrity on his part. Who knows? We can only speculate.
How many times could he have played Hannibal this season?! And yet he chooses to bring him on in a mauling against Liverpool. Way to go to ruin a player. Fair play to the lad that he actually put in a challenge.
I can't see a down-side to relieving Ralf of his duties. I know I'm upset, hurting, and not exactly sober, but I would rather see Ronny as player-manager - if he can replicate his Portugul dressing room shanninigans - for the remainder of the season. It can't get any worse than this (until it does).
But we'll keep Ralf, probably still won't announce ETH for another month, and be mediocre - at best - for the rest of thge season. We'll probably even get another chance to move fourth. And throw it away.
How many times could he have played Hannibal this season?! And yet he chooses to bring him on in a mauling against Liverpool. Way to go to ruin a player. Fair play to the lad that he actually put in a challenge.
I can't see a down-side to relieving Ralf of his duties. I know I'm upset, hurting, and not exactly sober, but I would rather see Ronny as player-manager - if he can replicate his Portugul dressing room shanninigans - for the remainder of the season. It can't get any worse than this (until it does).
But we'll keep Ralf, probably still won't announce ETH for another month, and be mediocre - at best - for the rest of thge season. We'll probably even get another chance to move fourth. And throw it away.
Because he knows about football and was a good coach at other clubs? Or better, because its their fecking jobs to?
Imagine someones rebuttal actually being "why should I listen to my boss".
I mean fecksake, how far gone is the squad if they refuse to listen to the coach and we have some supporters thinking thats half alright.
Because they know he's an interim manager and their a bunch of spineless wankers!
I get that using the word fraud is the latest Caf trend but it does become kind of boring.
Everyone’s a fraud
Was he? He’s won less than Ole.
When a large group of people allegedly stop listening to their manager you may want to look at why that is. Or stick your fingers in your ears and ignore a clear problem with the manager. Whatever works for you.
Absolutely. Ralf knows how to build a club, he knows what structure needs to be in place to create sustained success, to always challenge. Under SAF, we had a man who was so good that just his presence held it all together but it is clear that we need to modernise this club. It can be done by hiring top class people with the right credentials based on merit and then give them the tools to be successful while holding them accountable.
Honestly, Ralf should take part of the blame. The game plan was really dumb. How can you play 5 at the back with no pace? Bailly is sited on the bench and you have Phil Jones + Maguire + Lindelof in there. Ok if you chose to play those 3, why did he have them play a high line? Doesn't make sense. Ok, why keep them playing the high line even after conceding several goals of the same ilk?. Why would you play Dalot as LB in a game as big as this? Why do we keep forcing these senior players to put in a performance? They don't want to play for the club. It's obvious...people think they will feel some shame based on the scoreline. They will not. They won't be here next season, they don't care. They go to their national teams and slag the club off but guess what...Ralf continues to play them. Why?? Doesn't make sense. We have an academy with a lot of promising talent. We would rather finish 10th playing the academy rather than play these players who keep putting in these performances. This is what I blame squarely on Ralf, he continues to be weak by playing these same players game after game. If ETH comes in and does the same stuff, we will not win anything and he will be rightly sacked. ETH should be ready to play the academy if the senior players are not up to scratch. LVG is the last manager we had with the balls to do that. Every game I see why Ralf was never really a top manager even if he is the father of the gegenpress. He just doesn't have the balls to make the big calls in the big games
They listened to Carrick when he was interim. They listened to Ole when he was interim. Why won’t they listen to Rangnick? Maybe there’s more to it than you’re willing to acknowledge.
Hes won less than Ole
What sort of straws are you clutching to come out with dimwit statements trying to provide credence to the Norweigen fecking league over taking Hoffenheim, Shalke and RB Leipzig levels above.
Now I've really heard it all.
He is the worst manager we have ever had. Absolute awful we would do better under Ole than him.
He hasn't been great but please stop with the revitionism, we lost 5-0 to them just this season when Ole was in charge
I see the clueless are back blaming the manager when this rotten core have downed managers before him. Get a fecking clue, this is not down to the manager, this is player power gone wrong. We have completely abandoned the basic ethos of Sir Alex that no player is bigger than the club. Hopefully Rangnick's view of this squad from the inside and ETH will solve this problem.
Yes, he has .. but does he need to be a coach to do that ? Everybody in the world knows what our issue is ..he could have just come in as a consultant and provided these inputs..
We could have hired a proper manager this season and played with some dignity
Ah wonderful. The talker is back with more fancy quotes after yet another dismal performance.
Does he though? He's got experience at getting small clubs to a certain level but he's never worked at a club as big as ours before. Just as has proven on the pitch what's to say he's not just all talk when it comes to his upcoming consultancy role?
Ralf is speaking facts, he's saying what so many on here are saying, but he's doing it publicly and from a place of strength, yet people slate him.
It's been a disaster, but at least he's said it like it is.
It's been a disaster, but at least he's said it like it is.
Hannibal although not helped gave the ball away for the 4th goal. He's a little lightweight for the Prem just yet.
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Just the bedraggled remnants of a very vocal Ole In brigade who lurk in here and refuse to acknowledge the state the club was left in by him. This interim hire was completely irrelevant, this group of players who were so expensively assembled are rotten and there needs to be an overhaul, the fact they hired a DoF to be head coach is weird but hopefully means they actually will use Ragnick’s experience when a new manager comes in.
Thanks for that Ralf I had no idea that's what we needed I thought we were perfect as we are
Let’s face it - this guy can’t motivate a team to save his life. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the Man United manager job if he can’t get the team up for playing against either of their greatest rivals home or away.
He will be valuable to the club behind the scenes, but he does not have what it takes to manage at this level.
He will be valuable to the club behind the scenes, but he does not have what it takes to manage at this level.
Ask the players.
Manager not allowed to buy or sell players, players not listening to the manager yet its the managers fault ?
I still hold out hope for him as an executive.
fecking crap coach.
fecking crap coach.
No because its clear these group of players aren't good enough, and even worse they haven't a good mentality. They've threw another manager under the bus for the audacity to call them out on there shitty attitudes and performances
He isn't a very good manager and I'm not sure why some are acting like that's such a controversial opinion. There's a reason why he wanted to retire from coaching. Yes we know there's deeper problems with this team but both things can be true. He's better suited to being upstairs.
Sure he did but will the structure of this club hear him out? He is stating the failures of this club in a way that is more open than anybody. But I don't think the things he has said is not new to anybody. Does not Fletcher know he should not be nowhere near this club? Why is he still on the touchline? Was woodward so blind to see he was incompetent to do the job? Yet all those involved maintained their practices and changed nothing.
I am just pessimistic that the analysis of Ragnick will change much. Hope I'm wrong.
Both imo. The players or whatever you want to call them are shit, but im sure a motivational coach like Conte would have gotten better results out of them so Ragnick is to blame as well. We need a total rebuild regardless. Not a single one of them are good enough for the title, and only a few are good enough for top 4.
He's been a disaster (somewhat predictably) but anyone expecting it to be significantly different under Ten Hag without a heavily overhauled squad is in for a shock.
Carrick wasn’t interim he was a caretaker who had been at the club already as a coach for several years.
Don’t be deliberately obtuse
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