Like having them train to get fit?
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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Like having them train to get fit?
That's the key point of all. Arriving in the middle of the season, especially during the already overloaded Xmas period (not even considering the covid disruptions) makes it very difficult to implement a new system.
There isn't enough time between games to train. That's why many coaches, especially system coaches, prefer to have a whole preseason to lay the foundation and get the automatisms in place to play their system.
RR however faces even more issues. The team clearly isn't fit to play a intensive pressing game. Again the foundations for physical fitness are laid in preseason. Impossible to increase the fitness of players significantly without intense training sessions, which will lead to players being tired and not competitive in league games.
So RR faces already an impossible task. On top there plenty of internal problems within squad, the Greenwood disaster and of plenty disruptions, because of covid.
Thus, it's very hard to judge RR work and performance. I also believe, while he was a bit lucky in his first games, he was pretty unlucky not to win the last 3 matches.
Apart from the odd flash, Lingard has been rank average for the past 10 years. Not only that but mentally he is still a 12 year old silly boy. The fact we have basically told him he is surplus to requirements, and yet seem to call on him in our hour of need tells you everything you need to know about how utterly useless our management has been.
I think Klopp mentioned this when he can to Liverpool. There wasn’t enough time to get the proper training in as there were so many matches.
Of course it has, do you watch our games? We cant control a game, they cant protect the back 4, they cant initiate attacks, they cant pass quick enough to create something…
Thought we had some very nice periods where we managed to put collective pressure on Southampton and won the ball back, just kept limiting their options and eventually they gave the ball away. Sadly, there's too many situations where we give the ball away and the opposition seems to have an open highway towards our goal. If we keep performing like we have, we're in for a battering when we play someone that's actually good.
Yes, it is Ralf's fault
Shaw needs replacing no doubt
Atletico could well mark him out of the games like we saw with Pogba against PSG in 2019, luckily they blinked in Paris and also defensively were poor
Ronaldo would have scored if Ten Hag/Conte/Potchettino was the coach, well known fact.
Yes, it is Ralf's fault
Never go back.
Couldn't believe how weakly he hit that. Hit it hard no chance the defender clears it.
Yes, it is Ralf's fault
That and the 2 Maguire headers made me so angry at Ralf for not going on the pitch and booting it in the net himself. That's what we expect from the manager, right?
Yes, it is Ralf's fault
That would have made it 1-0... And we ended up going 1-0 up later in the half, so that miss kind of became irrelevant. The same issues would likely have remained in the second half.
Obviously our players missing sitters is our only issue, but it is in no way our only issue.
It's not our only issue but when you look back on our last 3 games we have a very comfortable difference in clear chances created vs those conceded.
Southampton we surrendered more of our control than previously in the second half but we need to credit the run they're on (1 loss in the last 7 or so) and accept that this was our trickiest of fixtures since Ralf came in. That said, we still had a difference of XG of what, 1.9? That's really high.
The problems as I see it is certainly our reaction to conceding (we created I think two big opportunities but we did not cage Southampton in enough for prolonged periods), the defensive errors individually and I think also our fitness. I don't think Rangnick deserves any stick from that but I do think he needs to revise his selection of CB and better the in game management at times.
This is absolute bollocks. We have an Xg of 8.7 in our last 3 games and have scored 3 goals. Please explain to me how that’s the DMs fault?
So missing sitters for supposed world class players is not the biggest issue?
Ok
Middlesbrough was ridiculous of course, but the last 2 Prem games, our second half XG has been around 1 or less (Burnley was 0.6xg), and yesterdays was only 1 because that Maguire chance with his feet was at 0.5xg apparently, which is way too high for what was a snap shot.
So yeah, obviously it would be better if our players scored easy chances, but it would also help if we weren't crap in the second half - part of which for me is down to Ralfs poor/lack of changes
I never said biggest, I said only.
So if you cant fix this issue (missing sitters) how are we supposed to win?
If we miss anymore sitters, which seems likely, I will start to wonder whether the players are doing it on purpose. 
So if Bruno scores here we wouldnt still be in the FA cup?
I mean if Elanga could take a pen we'd still be in the FA cup...Middlesbrough was "one of those games" for me, I'm talking more about these last 2 league games where we've been pretty crap in the second half
By creating more chances across the whole game. Not just in the first half.
In the last two games we've missed one "sitter" in each... Its that enough?
We've also seen recently that 2-0 is hardly a safety blanket for us...
He needed that goal though to lift his confidence, then who knows. A lot of moves broke down with him yesterday. He looked like someones grandad joining in an U-11's game.
Why didn't Rangnick coach him on how to score?
Yes, it is Ralf's fault
A lot of moves broke down with him even when he was scoring... I wish confidence was his only issue, but I dunno, I mean when has Ronaldo ever lacked for confidence!?
He looks bereft of it at the moment. Yesterday you could see him beating himself up over every bad touch or pass. His standards were that high so have fallen further than most players.
All Ronaldo has had going for him in the past few years is his movement and wide variety plus talent for finding the back of the net.
We found this quite apparent in his last year at Madrid where the play was generally revolved around the midfield base and Benzema, who deserves a load of credit.
We found this quite apparent in his last year at Madrid where the play was generally revolved around the midfield base and Benzema, who deserves a load of credit.
All these reasons why it's not his fault was what it felt like in the last few matches of Ole. The players weren't passing at the right time when there was an obvious moment. They were a disaster and nothing ole could do to make them play better. If you watch the players during his month. You'll see the exact same problems. Just making really dumb decisions and not passing it quick enough.
It would have been an early goal and that means there are lot of times to score the second goal before half time. Player missing and wasting chances but not too many, otherwise it's very bad. At least score 1 out of 3 chances.
Maybe, though we scored earlier vs Burnley and didn't score again... But yeah even at 2-0, are we sure we'd have been comfortable? Southampton themselves probably made the best 2 chances of the second half.
Missed chances is one thing. Conceding, allowing pressure, unable to control a game another. It is big picture
Yeah we've dipped in the second half, although I do not see this as much a Rangnick issue more than a fitness issue. Hassenhuttle said it himself (and he knows how Rangnick football is when sustained) - the players just aren't used to playing a pressing game so they flatten out after the game progresses. The reason I wont blame Rangnick for that is because I'd rather a manager of his ilk, or Klopp/Pep etc. who will continue to train their concept regardless of the result volatility, because when it kicks in the benefit is much greater. That said, things like Elanga for Rashford earlier, Lindelof for Maguire, these are changes I want to see made.
Sounds a sentence I'd have never thought I'd say but I would have liked to see Fred on for Ronaldo, Bruno as a false 9 and then Pogba just behind with protection of Mct/Fred behind him. I think that would have enabled us to pen Southampton in more than the Lingard change.
Also that Burnley xg certainly sounds quite low relative to the eye test - for example Varane had a flick 2 yards out that was cleared off the line. That was a big chance and I think the Bruno/Elanga headers were very good chances too.
Re. Southampton there were a couple sitter headers from Maguire that went missing but agreed that the best chances all came early on.
This is something we saw from Liverpool in their pomp too I feel - they would blow teams away in the first 30, get a couple goals and then pick them off later on as they were sat on comfortable leads. But that comes after 2 years of brainwashing players to play a certain way and building a mentality over time with a squad that will buy into it. I don't think Rangnick has the time or the squad for the same effect, but I respect him highly for not changing his approach. His way is a successful way and his way will not be changed. We just have to hope he makes 1-2 better squad decisions and that our results normalise to reflect the XG stats.
Yes. I watch every game. I have my doubts that you do, if you believe that we've been struggling to create chances. The Southampton game wasn't as good as the two before it, but across those 3 games, we have an 8.25 xG. We scored 3 goals. If you think our attack has not been a problem, I don't know what to tell you. We have had more than enough chances to win these games. The midfield is not perfect. They have made mistakes, but they're not the main reason why we're failing to win matches.
Ronaldo's missed was in 6th, we scored vs Burnley in 18th. No, we didn't scored earlier vs Burnley.
I'm not sure how they made best 2 chances where both Maguire's chances had higher xG. Wouldn't even be surprised if Ronaldo's left foot second half chance had higher xG than their goal. xG shows we had 2.5 or more while Southampton had under 1. That shows our players wasted so many good chances.
Dalot’s follow up too. That was actually an excellent save.
Very true but are clearly the sole reason we are unable to control games at all
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