Why not?
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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Why not?
We need 3 first teamers - a RW/LW, DM and ST provided Pogba stays. We signed 3 last summer after a year without crowds - absolutely no reason to believe we won’t do the same this year. We also have circa 10 players who will leave.
Only thing I can criticize Ralf is that Maguire and Rashford should be dropped for Elanga and Lindelof.
No, see I would have dropped Ronaldo.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we compiled all the criticisms from different posters and discovered RR didn’t do a thing right.
Ronaldo is harder to drop since Cavani is injured, martial is gone, and Greenwood is in Prison
Ralf has only a few players who should be definite starters and deserve to be playing on present form.
De Gea, Varane, Pogba, Bruno, and Sancho and possibly Shaw and McTominay. Unfortunately, there is no one to replace Ronaldo, Rashford, Dalot, Maguire who should be nowhere near the first eleven and at best should be benched.
De Gea, Varane, Pogba, Bruno, and Sancho and possibly Shaw and McTominay. Unfortunately, there is no one to replace Ronaldo, Rashford, Dalot, Maguire who should be nowhere near the first eleven and at best should be benched.
Yeah but I would have stuck Elanga in there. I just don’t think Ronnie’s doing enough.
AWB and Lindelof were mainstays in a team that finished 2nd last year - of course they can replace Dalot and Maguire. Our attacking options are absolute bobbins though unless we can get Lingard motivated and Cavani fit.
At the end of the day, he heaped praise on Maguire after his Burnley performance.
That's pretty much that for me. I don't see how you can conclude that he's anything other than a yes man at that point who is being told to persist with Maguire and is acting accordingly.
As a result, that's my fate in him pretty much depleted.
That's pretty much that for me. I don't see how you can conclude that he's anything other than a yes man at that point who is being told to persist with Maguire and is acting accordingly.
As a result, that's my fate in him pretty much depleted.
Agreed. How can RR be expected to turn around 10 years of mediocrity in 2 months never mind 6 months?
The only way this will be fixed is that the permanent manager has TOTAL support from the board for shaping the squad. If he (whoever he is) wants rid of shaw, maguire, rashford (for example) then he needs to be supported.
Mourinho back in 2018 or was it 2017, said that martial and pogba had to go and the club chose to side with the players rather than the manager. Time has proven he was right (for all his faults).
The football isn't bad, there is improvement compared to the one before Aston Villa game but it's not enough to get us the result due to attackers missing so many easy chances. Let's just hope we can get the result in champions league. We seem to have more luck in CL than in PL and Ronaldo seems to perform better in CL than in PL.
Maguire's confidence is through the floor as it is, what use would it be if he publicly came out and hammered home what every pundit is saying every week?
He's got to build his confidence up somehow and if Lindelof hadn't got injured, I doubt he'd have been starting.
And what exactly are you expecting? That the Glazer's are going to buy an entire new starting 11? The next manager will have this exact same group of players to work with plus maybe 2 or 3 additions. He was brought in as an interim to give the team energy to kick on for the rest season making a challenge for top 4 after Ole horrendous run and from then on he's supposed to move upstairs.
That team you are bashing are more than capable of beating Burnley as we saw ourselves a month ago at OT. So why now that we played so crap against them away is it all on the players and nothing is Ralf fault?
For Ralf to say the defence has improved because we have conceded less goals is making him look a bit silly in my opinion; The opposition are still creating a lot of chances but we have not played any of the more fancied teams under Ralf yet with the best being West Ham so this could blow up quite quickly when we do.
He was talking about xg conceded so he wasn't wrong. Compared to what it was, the chances we concede has gone way down.
The old tough guy image and authoritarian persona can never mask what happens on the training pitch. Everything comes back to the training pitch.
Against the lesser teams?
Well yeah. Ole was getting smashed by Watford 4-1 before he was sacked.
In any case it doesn't matter, we've factually had improvements in XG conceded since Rangnick came in. The difference in XG has also been very wide. Today it was 1.9 in XG for vs Against was it?
It doesn't matter massively if the results are not showing it and I fully agree there. But if we keep creating more chances and keep conceding less chances, one would expect results to normalise to reflect that soon enough.
Klopp had a similar issue early on, huffing and puffing in many early games and failing to cement the scoreline. I am not saying Rangnick is a Klopp but these stats can often be a leading indicator of where the team is moving toward under a new coach or style.
Brighton consistently underperformed results versus their XG last season (that was for a bit too long), however this season we are finally seeing the results come to fruition. Its only a matter of time.
On the flipside Ole was consistent in seeing results flatter in terms of XG. And of course that normalised too and he was found out.
Why does he seem to think that completely abandoning the midfieldbat the end of games is a good idea. Just bringing on loads of attacking midfielders at the expense of central midfielders doesn't help because they end up on top of each other. Still mystifying how donny couldn't have played more of a part
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I'd not him near the bench, his fat arse would break it.
Just a few more goals and it would all look and feel so different for the team. Keep going and we'll be fine
Puttingly it bluntly: I think he's been pretty poor so far.
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Despite another largely depressing game I can still see what he is trying to implement, more so than any manager since Fergie - and that counts for something at least. It's the players that are letting him down, and boy has he been dealt a shit hand of a squad.
Actually inclined to have him stick around for another season and us get some players in which fit his system, move some of the shite on, promote a couple more promising youth prospects, and get a full pre-season in.
Another summer of upheaval will just result in another patchy season of nothingness, and no doubt the new manager giving chances to players who deserve to be binned (and consequently not signing anyone better to replace them)
Actually inclined to have him stick around for another season and us get some players in which fit his system, move some of the shite on, promote a couple more promising youth prospects, and get a full pre-season in.
Another summer of upheaval will just result in another patchy season of nothingness, and no doubt the new manager giving chances to players who deserve to be binned (and consequently not signing anyone better to replace them)
I have no doubt the players are stinking the place up but it doesn't help we keep hiring either novice managers or those that are well past their expiry dates. This guy should have never been hired as manager, not even as interim. The whole point of having him was for him to stabilise the club in time for the summer for the next manager and then move upstairs as possible Director of Football, but the club didn't trust him to buy players as you'd expect your Director of Football to. The whole thing stinks.
What's he trying to implement?
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Who else finds it ridiculous we went on a 3 year rebuild merry-go-round just to end up bringing on Lingard in needy situations?
I am sure he will be deliriously happy when he has proven you wrong. Career highlighting moment for him.
Not true. LVG's philosophy was more clear cut and obvious albeit dull as dishwater.
No he isn't he's at home. So lets just stick not available for selection....
I don't see anything on the field I would describe as a style. It could just be too hard to come mid-season and do it or just impossible with our players.
Don't think Rangnick has done a terrible job, but I don't think I could describe how we play, whereas I could with City, Liverpool, Spurs (now), Wolves, Leeds, Brighton, Burnley (this one is sort of cheating), Palace (sort of, but it's Vieira's first year and they did a 180 so that's fair), Villa, Brentford, Southampton and West Ham.
We're not going to start playing the style West Ham, Brentford or Burnley play (or at least I hope not), but I was hoping we'd look like Southampton by now with a clear pressing plan. And we don't.
I worry Pochettino would be similar, though I wouldn't have said that as he was leaving Southampton or after his first couple years with Spurs. And the players wanting him seems like a red flag since they didn't take to Mourinho or Rangnick's styles of football.
Ten Hag has Ajax playing like a Pep team. And considering we don't look like a Klopp team (not fully operational, but you could see what he was doing his first year at Liverpool at least) when we've hired a Klopp type tactically, I don't really see a better solution than Ten Hag.
Nah, he was right. It's been a shit decade. He just wasn't up to fixing it as he wasn't 2000s Mourinho anymore.
He talks the talk but that's that.
Good thing he send VDB and Martial on loans so we can forever play McFred and grandpa Cristiano while Matić, Mata and Cavani are our subs, I can already see new contracts incoming
Good thing he send VDB and Martial on loans so we can forever play McFred and grandpa Cristiano while Matić, Mata and Cavani are our subs, I can already see new contracts incoming
Our group of players are absolutely awful, I’ve got hardly anything good to say about most of them. And no strengthening in January genuinely shocked me. I have zero expectations of top 4 and lay majority of blame at the club and Ole for allowing the squad to become so terrible.
However it’s annoying to see the likes of Rashford allowed to stroll around, Maguire start ahead of Lindelof and Lingard come off the bench instead of Hannibal. In some areas he’s had no choice but when there is a choice I expected him to shake things up and make ballsy decisions. He’s done more than Ole but not enough.
However it’s annoying to see the likes of Rashford allowed to stroll around, Maguire start ahead of Lindelof and Lingard come off the bench instead of Hannibal. In some areas he’s had no choice but when there is a choice I expected him to shake things up and make ballsy decisions. He’s done more than Ole but not enough.
Man was toxic but still our most successful manager post Fergie. May have thrown players under the bus but maybe he was right too as he seen the true picture with the mentality of some of players that still play for club.
New manager needs his own team and players when he comes in, end of. The players in the squad want an easy life and should move on. They have had plenty of time and chances now to prove themselves and win things.
He just shouldn't have dissed his own club that's what Im saying, as if he's not part of it
The point many posters have made about the players not being fit enough to play his system is a reasonable one.
How much time does a player need to increase their fitness level adequately? It's been two and a half months now, is it just not going to be do-able during the season?
How much time does a player need to increase their fitness level adequately? It's been two and a half months now, is it just not going to be do-able during the season?
Bear in mind that there are those on here who would have SAF back in the blink of an eye and would probably exhume Busby if they thought he could be functional
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