Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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However you dress it up he’s simply not been good enough. Football managers live and die by results and the results have been miles off what they should be and what the club should expect. He doesn’t seem to be a particular strong manager either in terms of strength of character.
 
18 points out of 27 and the most difficult teams we have faced are West Ham and Wolves. I think Ralf always had an uphill task but the fixtures he has had have been very fortunate. Next month we are going to get smashed by the better teams and I still see us dropping more points before then. Score against us and we are fecked basically.

I just pray we don’t offer Ralf the job full time as this just seems the easy and cheap option for the club, especially after we lose out on CL revenue.

Feel for him but he’s admitted he only took the job once they offered him an advisory role, that plan needs to be kept. Massive summer ahead but we are years and years from winning major honours.
 
I'm not contradicting myself.

We created more chances than other big teams have created in the past against similar teams.
It's not unfair to say we were robbed of our second goal.

The above two statements are not mutually exclusive.

You are
 
Last 2 games were against a championship side and the 20th team in the league. Great achievement indeed creating chances against such kind of teams.
 
Yes but did you actually watch the matches? Against Middlesboro we had enough chances to be up by about 7-0, he can't put the ball in the net for them, we also got done by a shitty handball decision, a missed open goal and a missed penalty. This match we should have been 3-0 up if not for 2 horrendous refereeing decisions, at a minimum. I'm not saying he's above criticism but these 2 matches are not the matches to criticise him on
Yes, I did and it is normal for a team as talented as ours to create chances against bottom teams like burnley and Middleboro. It isn't normal to lose back to back to two team as poor as burnley and Middleboro.
 
Last 2 games were against a championship side and the 20th team in the league. Great achievement indeed creating chances against such kind of teams.
Definitely an improvement against our performances against said teams last couple of years.
That being said starting rashford was stupid and what’s up with lindelof and bially?
 
Except I am not. Read posts better.

Make your point better

You can blame the officials for Varane and the OG but who are you blaming for all the other countless chances?

We're not getting robbed FFS, we're getting exactly what we deserve
 
Yes, I did and it is normal for a team as talented as ours to create chances against bottom teams like burnley and Middleboro. It isn't normal to lose back to back to two team as poor as burnley and Middleboro.

Normally yes but you seem to have miraculously forgotten how absolutely trash we've been this season, including getting trounced by awful teams. You also seem to have ignored just how we lost them, you're acting like we've been getting absolutely dominated for the last couple of games, which just isn't true
 
Make your point better

You can blame the officials for Varane and the OG but who are you blaming for all the other countless chances?

We're not getting robbed FFS, we're getting exactly what we deserve
The other chances are on the players. But we took one which was a fair goal and were robbed. That goal would have put the game to bed.

Why are you struggling with this. The disallowed goal is independent of other chances missed. Nothing I said is contradictory.
 
I'm starting to think this bloke doesnt know what the feck hes doing. His run of fixtures since joing has been beyond favourable, an absolute dream on paper yet we are almost back to square one in the table.

He talks a very good game but so could I, and I dont think im the right man to manage Man Utd.

Conte.
 
The other chances are on the players. But we took one which was a fair goal and were robbed. That goal would have put the game to bed.

Why are you struggling with this. The disallowed goal is independent of other chances missed. Nothing I said is contradictory.

I'm not struggling with anything, I know what you're saying and I disagree (to put it mildly)
 
Normally yes but you seem to have miraculously forgotten how absolutely trash we've been this season, including getting trounced by awful teams. You also seem to have ignored just how we lost them, you're acting like we've been getting absolutely dominated for the last couple of games, which just isn't true
Because Ole was a poor manager. As I stated, those poor performance against those team was not normal. Our standard shouldn't be improvement of performance against poor team and be satisfied. It should be improvement of performance and result.
 
To let Ole go is a mistake as I still think. We should replace Ole at the end of the season and let him turn it around.
However, the decision has been made and we started the change of philosophy at the mid of the season. Ralf at least has already steady the ship. There will be more like today. We need to realize Greenwood is a huge loss for us. We don’t have enough scoring forces anymore. I will support whatever Ralf does and hope we can still finish the season in top four.
 
I'm starting to think this bloke doesnt know what the feck hes doing. His run of fixtures since joing has been beyond favourable, an absolute dream on paper yet we are almost back to square one in the table.

He talks a very good game but so could I, and I dont think im the right man to manage Man Utd.

Conte.
What can he do about players missing easy chances?
 
6 wins, 5 draws and 1 loss so far. Real meh given West Ham and Wolves are the best teams we have faced.
 
Because Ole was a poor manager. As I stated, those poor performance against those team was not normal. Our standard shouldn't be improvement of performance against poor team and be satisfied. It should be improvement of performance and result.

Nobody should be satisfied here, in the team and obviously Ralf will not be himself. My point is what more can he do for the last 2 matches when we should be 5-0 and 3-0 up, minimum.
 
I'm not struggling with anything, I know what you're saying and I disagree (to put it mildly)
You disagree that the second disallowed goal which was clearly an unfair decision did not have a material impact on the outcome.
Good one.
 
Ralf has now led us through nine league games after taking charge. We've lost one game so far. At this point Klopp had already lost to Palace, Newcastle and Watford and drawn to Southampton and WBA when he was appointed at Liverpool. Klopp's first 16 games he had 6-5-6. We're 5-3-1 so far. Why are people expecting Ralf to come in and wave some magic wand and have us bulldozing sides left, right and center?

We've become mostly defensively stable, with an impostor in our ranks, that's impressive and can be improved further by finding Varane a better pairing. In addition, we're creating chances, we just stink at burying them. We could admittedly struggle with this for the remainder of the season, but that's not down to Ralf. The foundations are definitely being improved, there's absolutely no reason to throw tantrums yet.
 
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What can he do about players missing easy chances?
He's the manager. Granted we should have been 3-0 up at HT but why didnt we react after 1-1? The mentality comes from the manager and coaching staff.

Maguire i wont even comment on and why is Cavani starting when he couldnt be arsed to get back in time for the last gae?
 
Nobody should be satisfied here, in the team and obviously Ralf will not be himself. My point is what more can he do for the last 2 matches when we should be 5-0 and 3-0 up, minimum.
Develop better attacking pattern. There is no way anyone can tell me that those last two game is the best performance that United with the talent we have could produce.
 
6 wins, 5 draws and 1 loss so far. Real meh given West Ham and Wolves are the best teams we have faced.
Yeah it's only going to get worse from here. It was crucial we took more from these easier games.
 
To let Ole go is a mistake as I still think. We should replace Ole at the end of the season and let him turn it around.
However, the decision has been made and we started the change of philosophy at the mid of the season. Ralf at least has already steady the ship. There will be more like today. We need to realize Greenwood is a huge loss for us. We don’t have enough scoring forces anymore. I will support whatever Ralf does and hope we can still finish the season in top four.
Ole was the biggest managerial mistake this club made and may ever make in the next decade. I have never seen a man so poor in his role and visibly out of depth. The hilarious thing is we took double the time others took in realizing. Chelsea being an obvious comparison with their Lampard test.
 
My point is what more can he do for the last 2 matches when we should be 5-0 and 3-0 up, minimum.

Should, we were not. That's the problem. He is now in his 3rd month and it's the same old shite and the same excuses.
 
To let Ole go is a mistake as I still think. We should replace Ole at the end of the season and let him turn it around.
However, the decision has been made and we started the change of philosophy at the mid of the season. Ralf at least has already steady the ship. There will be more like today. We need to realize Greenwood is a huge loss for us. We don’t have enough scoring forces anymore. I will support whatever Ralf does and hope we can still finish the season in top four.

Why are is your user name that, its all a bit tragic.. a full contradictory on terms.
 
We are getting better but theres still a lot to work on. Our forwards have really let us down lately.
 
You disagree that the second disallowed goal which was clearly an unfair decision did not have a material impact on the outcome.
Good one.

We were 2-0 up against Villa, what was the result in that one?

Blame the refs all you want if that's what helps you
 
Ralf has now led us through nine league games after taking charge. We've lost one game so far. At this point Klopp had already lost to Palace, Newcastle and Watford and drawn to Southampton and WBA when he was appointed at Liverpool. Klopp's first 16 games he had 6-5-6. We're 5-3-1 so far. Why are people expecting Ralf to come in and wave some magic wand and have us bulldozing sides left, right and center?

We've become mostly defensively stable, with an impostor in our ranks, that's impressive and can be improved further by finding Varane a better pairing. In addition, we're creating chances, we just stink at burying them. We could admittedly struggle with this for the remainder of the season, but that's not down to Ralf. The foundations are definitely being improved, there's absolutely no reason to throw tantrums yet.
Because that is the modern iteration of your average fan. It's either a 10/10 performance of every single player or everyone is shite. The instant gratification mindset that has seeped into our culture is damaging in a lot of ways.
 
6 wins, 5 draws and 1 loss so far. Real meh given West Ham and Wolves are the best teams we have faced.

Still a good turnaround considering the shocking run of results in the 10 games before those. Plus the trend has been towards improving performances. It looks like our biggest problem is (lack of) fitness. Starting well, then fading. Hopefully that will improve from here on.
 
He's the manager. Granted we should have been 3-0 up at HT but why didnt we react after 1-1? The mentality comes from the manager and coaching staff.

Maguire i wont even comment on and why is Cavani starting when he couldnt be arsed to get back in time for the last gae?
Because Ronaldo is old and played 120 minutes of football
Like you said we should of been up

players not taken chances is a sign of poor player quality, not much anyone can do about that
 
Ralf has now led us through nine league games after taking charge. We've lost one game so far. At this point Klopp had already lost to Palace, Newcastle and Watford and drawn to Southampton and WBA when he was appointed at Liverpool. Klopp's first 16 games he had 6-5-6. We're 5-3-1 so far. Why are people expecting Ralf to come in and wave some magic wand and have us bulldozing sides left, right and center?

We've become mostly defensively stable, with an impostor in our ranks, that's impressive and can be improved further by finding Varane a better pairing. In addition, we're creating chances, we just stink at burying them. We could admittedly struggle with this for the remainder of the season, but that's not down to Ralf. The foundations are definitely being improved, there's absolutely no reason to throw tantrums yet.
I like Ralf and consider his presence essential to any chance of a good future for Utd. Having said that, the comparison to Klopp is weak. Klopp didn't have the same number of quality players as Utd do. You may argue we actually have fewer WC players than people like to think, but it's still a clear distance from Klopp's. We can expect a decent bottom level from this squad that Klopp could not
 
Ralf has now led us through nine league games after taking charge. We've lost one game so far. At this point Klopp had already lost to Palace, Newcastle and Watford and drawn to Southampton and WBA when he was appointed at Liverpool. Klopp's first 16 games he had 6-5-6. We're 5-3-1 so far. Why are people expecting Ralf to come in and wave some magic wand and have us bulldozing sides left, right and center?

I sort of like all of the posts writing Rangnick off early. It identifies the nonsense logic quicker.
 
Yeah it's only going to get worse from here. It was crucial we took more from these easier games.
Maybe. Maybe not. Even just turning two draws into one win and one loss would be a positive, provided we don’t lose to Spurs and Arsenal. Performances have been getting better in recent matches, so we are moving in the right direction.

Whilst the results are really disappointing and killing our season, I feel better about how we will play in our upcoming matches now after Brentford, West Ham, Boro and Burnley, than I did after Norwich and Newcastle.
 
I just feel sorry for him, he was left with absolutely crap state of this squad. Our strikers are 70 years old combined and there are only two of them. I hope he keeps up being honest and tells this lot how it is. This club is in a story state.
 
He's the manager. Granted we should have been 3-0 up at HT but why didnt we react after 1-1? The mentality comes from the manager and coaching staff.

Maguire i wont even comment on and why is Cavani starting when he couldnt be arsed to get back in time for the last gae?

Because Ronaldo was absolutely shite the last time he started. It’s not Ralf’s fault our front line is a mess of geriatrics and (alleged) sex offenders but it’s an absolute nightmare scenario for him.
 
3 goals from 66 attempts in the last 3 games, are you really blaming the manager for the wastefulness of the the players?
 
Theres no positives in the points we're dropping against the calibre of opposition we have player. Yes, should have been 3 or 4 at half time but
Because Ronaldo is old and played 120 minutes of football
Like you said we should of been up

players not taken chances is a sign of poor player quality, not much anyone can do about that
He's done nothing to improve them mentality of the players that I can see so far. The second half performance was a shocker, no need to collapse like that after 1-1. We had to keep going. Top 4 is gone for me.
 
Ralf has now led us through nine league games after taking charge. We've lost one game so far. At this point Klopp had already lost to Palace, Newcastle and Watford and drawn to Southampton and WBA when he was appointed at Liverpool. Klopp's first 16 games he had 6-5-6. We're 5-3-1 so far. Why are people expecting Ralf to come in and wave some magic wand and have us bulldozing sides left, right and center?

We've become mostly defensively stable, with an impostor in our ranks, that's impressive and can be improved further by finding Varane a better pairing. In addition, we're creating chances, we just stink at burying them. We could admittedly struggle with this for the remainder of the season, but that's not down to Ralf. The foundations are definitely being improved, there's absolutely no reason to throw tantrums yet.

This klopp comparison is fair actually. Good point.
 
Should, we were not. That's the problem. He is now in his 3rd month and it's the same old shite and the same excuses.
Because it’s the same players Jesus Christ
We’ve two geriatric strikers
Wingers out of form
Another booted out the team
And an average midfield

the tactics have created shit load of chances and the players haven’t finished them
What on Earth would change with any other manager?
more chances so they can miss more shots
 
Just saw a stat that we outshot our opponents 52-14 over the last two games. And unlike some games under Ole where we were just taking pot-shots at goal, those shots actually included some clear-cut high quality chances.

I realise everyone is frustrated with results and the general state we're in but in reality to come away without a win from either game is to a large degree just bad luck. That should temper our criticism somewhat.
 
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