Ralf Rangnick | Austria manager

B. Munich said:
I'm sure this topic had been discussed thoroughly in the talks with Rangnick. He isn't an idiot, so I rather expect him to adapt his style to match Bayern's style. Like Heynckes did after taking over from LvG.
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Ragnick adapting is no worry. He has the same footballing ideas as Nagelsmann. He won't endevor to change Bayern in posession. He will instead endevour to keep them more robust in the press and ruthless in transitions. Which is close to peak Flick football IMO. I'm personally excited to see who Eberl recruits to aid in that
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Ragnick adapting is no worry. He has the same footballing ideas as Nagelsmann. He won't endevor to change Bayern in posession. He will instead endevour to keep them more robust in the press conferences and ruthless in transitions. Which is close to peak Flick football IMO. I'm personally excited to see who Eberl recruits to aid in that
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B. Munich said:
I'm sure this topic had been discussed thoroughly in the talks with Rangnick. He isn't an idiot, so I rather expect him to adapt his style to match Bayern's style. Like Heynckes did after taking over from LvG.

After changing coaches every 18 months, I also believe the board and higher ups will do everything to make this appointment a success. Like Klopp he wouldn't be the typical Bayern appointment as they are both better known for coaching the challenging teams, the underdogs. While Klopp is an elite coach, his personality doesn't fit to elite teams. With Rangnick I'm not yet sure.

Rangnick is also well known to develop youth players and promote them to the first team. That's in line with Hoeneß demands.
His interview wasn't that much off as the press reported.
Tuchel continuously demanding a holding six despite having Kimmich, Goretzka, Laimer and Pavlovic caused serious unhappiness in the dressing room. The loan of Stanisic, sanctioned by Tuchel, to Leverkusen was an huge blunder, which might have cost us the title.
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If 'adapting your ideas' was so easy every coach could donit ;) Rangnick is an expert in pressing and transition football, you don't hire him to play something he has nonexperience with. He is different to Heynckes in that regard who wasn't really married to a particular style of football.

And I don't think Bayern would even ask him to play differently anyway. Rangnick is now the fourth coach after Kovac, Flick and Nagelsmann who stands for intense transition football in a relatively short amount of time. They appointed the DoF of Salzburg and Leipzig was their favorite feeder club in recent seasons.

That aside, didn't Tuchel want to keep Stanisic and only agreed with his
move on the premise that he gets a replacement and Pavard stays?
 
Zehner said:
If 'adapting your ideas' was so easy every coach could donit ;) Rangnick is an expert in pressing and transition football, you don't hire him to play something he has nonexperience with. He is different to Heynckes in that regard who wasn't really married to a particular style of football.
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We will see! The football under Heynckes was the most exciting style we played. Despite, as you said, he isn't known for any particular style.
Purely possession based will end in the boring passing around game like LvG. So I'm confident Rangnick is flexible enough to adapt and play a combination of possession and gegenpresssing plus fast transitions. Against weaker team possession will be high but against the elite teams Bayern might also concede possession and sit back. Something that was missing under Guardiola.


Zehner said:
That aside, didn't Tuchel want to keep Stanisic and only agreed with his
move on the premise that he gets a replacement and Pavard stays?
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I remember Tuchel being confident that Pavard would stay and therefore sanctioned the loan of Stanisic. A few days later Pavard insisted to leave and even refused to play or played without any commitment in friendlies forcing his nice to Inter.
Hoeneß was against the loan from the beginning.
I don't agree with Hoeneß on Musiala and Pavlovic. He is right though on Davies who regressed under Tuchel. He is also right about the ongoing demand for a holding six and the public statements that neither Kimmich and Goretzka are up to the level Tuchel was striving for, created a lot of discontent in the team.
I don't say Tuchel was wrong but he managed that situation very poorly and lost (or never got) the backing of some senior players. Probably the biggest weakness of Tuchel. He isn't, like e.g. Klopp a "Menschenfänger".
 
stevoc said:
It's off topic but the players weren't and aren't all shit. We did the open heart surgery, though it remains to be seen how successful the operation was.
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I wouldn't say we have done a surgery just yet.

We definitely tried, but its not happened.

We tried to move McT and Harry. Both failed in their moves.

Martial is still there, but he will go soon (thankfully).

VDB will be back soon.

Sancho decided to act up.

Now there is also another issue of some players like Rashford who have a massive problem with their attitude. Perhaps he spotted these issues to.

Its hard to say. But having seen the manager trajectory in last 6-7 years the pattern is visible. All are failing massively.

Again this is off topic, but I think the hate for Ralf comes cause we haven't accepted what he has said as correct.
 
B. Munich said:
We will see! The football under Heynckes was the most exciting style we played. Despite, as you said, he isn't known for any particular style.
Purely possession based will end in the boring passing around game like LvG. So I'm confident Rangnick is flexible enough to adapt and play a combination of possession and gegenpresssing plus fast transitions. Against weaker team possession will be high but against the elite teams Bayern might also concede possession and sit back. Something that was missing under Guardiola.
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The most exciting was under Flick hands down. All out attack all the time. Not even under Heynckes it was regularly so breathless stuff.
 
GhastlyHun said:
The most exciting was under Flick hands down. All out attack all the time. Not even under Heynckes it was regularly so breathless stuff.
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Maybe but the defense was often terribly exposed.
I remember the CL semi final against Lyon and they had at least 3 clear cut chances before we scored. Flick's style wasn't sustainable and in his second season several managers found him out.

Heynckes was (almost) as attacking but his setup way more balanced. The defense was much better.
I would be more than happy, if Rangnick could revert to Heynckes ball or something similar.
 
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adkb said:
People are mad at him cause he suggested an open heart surgery on the squad and people cannot fathom that the players, the recruitment and the structure are all shit.
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It was more the 4222 and the shit tactics but ok....
 
adkb said:
People are mad at him cause he suggested an open heart surgery on the squad and people cannot fathom that the players, the recruitment and the structure are all shit.
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Same thing with Ronaldo. People just can't handle the truth. Guy should've been applauded as a hero for turning the spotlight on the Glazers.
 
adkb said:
I wouldn't say we have done a surgery just yet.

We definitely tried, but its not happened.

We tried to move McT and Harry. Both failed in their moves.

Martial is still there, but he will go soon (thankfully).

VDB will be back soon.

Sancho decided to act up.

Now there is also another issue of some players like Rashford who have a massive problem with their attitude. Perhaps he spotted these issues to.

Its hard to say. But having seen the manager trajectory in last 6-7 years the pattern is visible. All are failing massively.

Again this is off topic, but I think the hate for Ralf comes cause we haven't accepted what he has said as correct.
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Well Ralf was talking about 10 our and 10 in when he said that. We've actually had 16+ senior players leave and 13 senior players come in (plus promotions) since Ralfs time at United. There's only about 10 senior players left from 2022 (half of those will probaby leave this summer), anything beyond that isn't surgery.
 
B. Munich said:
I'm sure this topic had been discussed thoroughly in the talks with Rangnick. He isn't an idiot, so I rather expect him to adapt his style to match Bayern's style. Like Heynckes did after taking over from LvG.
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A little bit of press is like a little bit of pregnant, my guy.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
The thing is Bayern having Hoeness talking has worked for decades. It comes with the territory.
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Oh, absolutely. He has an incredibly great legacy at Bayern, which is rightly praised/celebrated. But now he's mostly characterised by megalomania and polemics and lacks any sense of tact. Either he's slowly going senile or it's calculated and that would probably be even worse.
 
arnoldS said:
Why are so many fans here so bitter towards Ralf? And all this "worst manager" nonsense. I mean he was interim and it was clear he will only stay 6 month so our pirimadonna squad didn't give a shit what he wanted them to do. He is doing a very good job with the national team now so apperently he is a good coach.
But yes he would be a disaster at Bayern. Him and muppets like Hoeness would be wild.
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Because we love to blame rather than accept we suck.
 
Heynckes has just turned off his phone and went on an open-ended vacation
 
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