Raheem Sterling | Signs for Man City for £49,000,000

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By comparing, I'm guessing you mean saying that he's no better than Lennon. I've seen some of it, but that's mostly people trying to be controversial or overreacting within the "overrated british talent" debate. No one objective can honestly say he's not more talented than Lennon or Walcott (the other name that pops up).
I've heard Shaun Wright-Phillips' name come up as well.
 
I haven't seen enough of Sterling to have an opinion on his potential but, seeing as he's a first-choice Liverpool player, I think that 50p is a fair price.
 
They have to pay QPR 20% though IIRC and City will bid more.

Could be Liverpool want money upfront and City want it spread out also.

They should just do what Swansea did with Vorm. Sell Borini and Sterling to City as a double transfer and value Borini at £30m and Sterling at £10m.

I suspect this "final offer" from City of £35.5m raising to £40m will turn into a "final, final offer" of £40-42m straight up, which will probably be accepted (although Liverpool will want to push them to £45m).
 
Sterling is not better. They are about the same level tbh. Sterling was better the season before, and Depay better this season gone.
Depay is also obviously a better goalscorer, where Sterling is a better dribbler.

Sterling was playing in a much, much better league. That counts for a lot for me.

Depay looks to have all the tools to be a very good player. But he's got it all to do. Sterling represents less of a risk for a big club - not least because he's already done it in this league as a kid, and not many players can do that. The fact that he's "home grown" is another positive for an English club with these quota's potentially making life difficult. That'll add money to his price tag if nothing else.

Lots of nonsense on here about him to be honest. He's very talented, plays with his head up and the fact that he has played in various positions in various systems suggests he has a decent footballing brain.

He's not the finished article and may never be - that's the lottery you take when you pay big money for a young lad. United rolled the dice on Rooney paying £30 million or so over a decade ago and it paid off. They've done the same since with Shaw. Fair play to whoever takes a punt on him.
 
Sterling was playing in a much, much better league. That counts for a lot for me.

Depay looks to have all the tools to be a very good player. But he's got it all to do. Sterling represents less of a risk for a big club - not least because he's already done it in this league as a kid, and not many players can do that. The fact that he's "home grown" is another positive for an English club with these quota's potentially making life difficult. That'll add money to his price tag if nothing else.

Lots of nonsense on here about him to be honest. He's very talented, plays with his head up and the fact that he has played in various positions in various systems suggests he has a decent footballing brain.

He's not the finished article and may never be - that's the lottery you take when you pay big money for a young lad. United rolled the dice on Rooney paying £30 million or so over a decade ago and it paid off. They've done the same since with Shaw. Fair play to whoever takes a punt on him.
Good post. I also mentioned a while ago that he’s worth a lot because he’s very likely to stay in England, and that’s uncommon amongst top attackers these days.

IMO he’s the best winger/striker who will be moving this summer.
 
Fax a 50m bid and see if it tests Liverpool's resolve. Probably one of the best young players in the world today.
 
40m sounds like a fair price, but I think City will offer more if the dippers reject this bid.
 
If you're selling something that you believe to be a turd, surely you can't expect that thing to be worth its weight in gold?
So some fans who think a 20 year old player who scored 13 and assisted 9 in his last, allegedly poor season, and was a winner of European football's Golden Boy award for 2014 should decide for how much he should be sold?

And second question, do you think we, or any other club, would’ve done something different than put a very high price on a player who is a very good prospect?

I’ve seen some people discussing this earlier and I don’t really see why. He’s definitely leaving, it’s in Liverpool interest to get as much as possible for him. And they can drag it all summer if they want to.
 
So some fans who think a 20 year old player who scored 13 and assisted 9 in his last, allegedly poor season, and was a winner of European football's Golden Boy award for 2014 should decide for how much he should be sold?

And second question, do you think we, or any other club, would’ve done something different than put a very high price on a player who is a very good prospect?

I’ve seen some people discussing this earlier and I don’t really see why. He’s definitely leaving, it’s in Liverpool interest to get as much as possible for him. And they can drag it all summer if they want to.
So not 'garbage' then. Which was the whole point.
 
Did they only start saying he was shit when he rejected a contract extension?
Around the same time, tbf :p

So some fans who think a 20 year old player who scored 13 and assisted 9 in his last, allegedly poor season, and was a winner of European football's Golden Boy award for 2014 should decide for how much he should be sold?

And second question, do you think we, or any other club, would’ve done something different than put a very high price on a player who is a very good prospect?

I’ve seen some people discussing this earlier and I don’t really see why. He’s definitely leaving, it’s in Liverpool interest to get as much as possible for him. And they can drag it all summer if they want to.
:lol: I'm only pointing out at the Liverpool fans who simultaneously think he's shit and worth 50m+. Where did I say anything about that 'logic' of these fans actually counting for anything when their club sets out to do business?

Of course its in Liverpools interest to drag it out and get the most amount of money possible. That's what most clubs would do in the same position.
 
Did they only start saying he was shit when he rejected a contract extension?
This. I know Liverpool fans who think he is rubbish now but thought he was the next big thing just a few months ago before all the contract talk. There's no way any Liverpool fans thought he was rubbish 12 months ago.
 
40mil is generous . dippers need stop trying to play hardball and think themselves lucky.
 
40mil is generous . dippers need stop trying to play hardball and think themselves lucky.

They are in a position of power and will rightly hold out, screwing the eventual buyer for a fee amounting to around £50m (with add ons), which will be excellent business on their part. Here's hoping they spend the proceeds on shit like they usually do.
 
Sounds like they are rejecting £35.5m. Stupid from Liverpool but not unexpected. At this point I would hope that City et al. steer clear, and he can just leave on a free next summer.


I would actually say that £50m would be a fair price if he still had a few years on his contract and had not expressed a desire to leave.
 
Sounds like they are rejecting £35.5m. Stupid from Liverpool but not unexpected. At this point I would hope that City et al. steer clear, and he can just leave on a free next summer.

He's got two years left on his deal, hasn't he?

If so, any club wanting him this Summer will have to pay circa £50m.

If a sale is delayed until next Summer, they'll still fetch at least £20m.
 
This. I know Liverpool fans who think he is rubbish now but thought he was the next big thing just a few months ago before all the contract talk. There's no way any Liverpool fans thought he was rubbish 12 months ago.

Any who think he is rubbish are more than likely watching down the pub with their mates shouting the same at all the players.
You could get that type at any club.

40mil is generous . dippers need stop trying to play hardball and think themselves lucky.

The club don't want to sell him though, so getting the best price assuming they see no other option in selling seems to be the logical choice.
 
So not 'garbage' then. Which was the whole point.
No, the point was that it doesn't matter what fans think of Sterling when it comes to money they want for him. There are clubs willing to pay a lot for him, and I hope we are one of them, even if that means we pay a lot more than others. Who cares what Liverpool said they want, it's about getting as much as possible.
Where did I say anything about that 'logic' of these fans actually counting for anything when their club sets out to do business?
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If you're selling something that you believe to be a turd, surely you can't expect that thing to be worth its weight in gold?
 
He's got two years left on his deal, hasn't he?

If so, any club wanting him this Summer will have to pay circa £50m.

If a sale is delayed until next Summer, they'll still fetch at least £20m.

Oh really? My entire assumption with this whole 'saga' has been that it runs out in 2016. Just did some reading and as it turns out you are correct, he still has two years left. That does change things slightly and I cant blame Liverpool for holding out for £40m+
 
No, the point was that it doesn't matter what fans think of Sterling when it comes to money they want for him. There are clubs willing to pay a lot for him, and I hope we are one of them, even if that means we pay a lot more than others. Who cares what Liverpool said they want, it's about getting as much as possible.

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Are you for real? Stupidity of fans doesn't affect a privately owned club's transfer business. That doesn't mean I can't point and laugh at said stupidity.
 
Are you for real? Stupidity of fans doesn't affect a privately owned club's transfer business. That doesn't mean I can't point and laugh at said stupidity.
I just don't see the correlation between how Liverpool fans rate Sterling and how much they want for him. Especially considering that it is very likely that City are willing to pay that mentioned 50m.
 
I just don't see the correlation between how Liverpool fans rate Sterling and how much they want for him. Especially considering that it is very likely that City are willing to pay that mentioned 50m.

£50m is probably a bit steep. If the club are asking that then it doesn't matter what fans of any club think - it's up to LFC to set the price.
He is under contract for 2 more years and they don't want to sell.

Irrespective of what contract offers and discussions have taken place, most of which we aren't aware of anyway.
 
£40m + a few million worth of add ons must surely do the trick. Can't quite see Liverpool getting the full £50m
 
£50m is probably a bit steep. If the club are asking that then it doesn't matter what fans of any club think - it's up to LFC to set the price.
He is under contract for 2 more years and they don't want to sell.


Irrespective of what contract offers and discussions have taken place, most of which we aren't aware of anyway.
Exactly.
I would take him for 50m anyway.
 
Liverpool are right to reject this bid. They can and most likely will get more. As far as City is considered, it's a necessary risk worth taking.
 
I just don't see the correlation between how Liverpool fans rate Sterling and how much they want for him. Especially considering that it is very likely that City are willing to pay that mentioned 50m.
Fans generally don't invest much care into the fee for a 'garbage' player.
The equivalent of 'Anderson can only leave United if a club pays the full £5 million'. Or 'We should completely refuse to sell, if they don't bid the full £10 million for Buttner'. 'I think Dzeko's garbage, but unless a team pays £30 million, they can jog on!'

Either they're exaggerating how 'garbage' they think he is, or the fee they'd accept. Not that it really matters, to be honest.
 
Seeing as QPR get 20% of any fee as a sell on clause, I'd imagine Liverpool will be milking this for all its worth...
 
Liverpool should reject their bid as they know how desperate they are for a homegrown talent.
 
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