Rage Against The Machine For Christmas No.1

Bloody hell that fan forum is hilarious, do they really think RATM are some random nobodies?! And Louis Walsh claiming they couldn't fill Wembley but this kid from X Factor could do is either woefully ignorant, extremely naive or deliberately disingenuous. I can't decide which as they'd all fit with the plonker who told us Jedward will be huge!

All these X Factor contestants will be forgotten about in 6 months

They're brainwashed Nick. It's the sort of response you'd expect from a show that runs like a powerful propaganda machine (no pun). This is why I see the X-Factor as a dangerous and counter-productive show where music is concerned. There is national addiction on various levels. Some of those are into the music, some are into the drama, and some are into both. There will be millions of fans rubbing their hands in anticipation 1 week before the new show starts, much like me in August prior to our first match back from the Summer break.

It means another year of drama, gossip and basically shit for women (and gay men) to talk about around the photocopying machine during the sad existence of what they claim to be "life"
 
"Killing in the name of" is about as old as that McEldeberry guy, so I don't know why those people think this campaign will make people forget about RATM all of a sudden ?!?
 
Next christmas, I'm sure Sony will cook up another campaign that makes them double the money and gives them income from the 1st and 2nd chart spots. Just like this year.

:lol: Sony cooked up nothing, if next year another campaign is started that raises a significant amount of money for charity whilst putting a good track at the top of the charts then so be it.

And that forum is bloody brilliant, Rage's next single? They've not released any new material for about 9 years now, good to see people doing some research.
 
Why’s everyone talking about a new campaign now anyway? If you’re so fed up with the state of the charts and mainstream music then do what happened yesterday every week. Actually buy music you like, don’t download it for free. Go see local unsigned bands, go to gigs, listen to stuff on spotify and last fm that you’ve never heard before. Sack needing a campaign, that is as bad as watching x-factor and being told what to like.
And you can be guaranteed there’ll be even more campaigns next year, and they wont be run by fans, it’ll be the record labels behind it this time.

Well said you ! I'm with you 100% on this. It's a sheer necessity. People need to stop being so lazy. It's a national thing. You gotta get up and make the charts happen. And yes while free downloading has it's merits (lets not get into this) I do think that paying for downloads will help unknowns rise.

Lets hope and pray this all changes the attitudes and minds of those in the Uk
 
Synco records, Simon Cowells company is owned by Sony and is responsible for 70% of the music arm of the japanese companies revenue. RATM are under the Sony label, why are people acting as if we've just struck a blow to the corperate music machine?
 
Synco records, Simon Cowells company is owned by Sony and is responsible for 70% of the music arm of the japanese companies revenue. RATM are under the Sony label, why are people acting as if we've just struck a blow to the corperate music machine?

Good point. Anyone acting like this needs to look at the finer print. It's most certainly not a blow to the corporate music machine.

But it's great for other reasons
 
:lol: Sony cooked up nothing, if next year another campaign is started that raises a significant amount of money for charity whilst putting a good track at the top of the charts then so be it.

And that forum is bloody brilliant, Rage's next single? They've not released any new material for about 9 years now, good to see people doing some research.

What amuses me is that's how they view success in music. Number 1 singles. As if bands like Rage could give a shit about singles in the charts.
 
Synco records, Simon Cowells company is owned by Sony and is responsible for 70% of the music arm of the japanese companies revenue. RATM are under the Sony label, why are people acting as if we've just struck a blow to the corperate music machine?

SyCo Records. I don't think anyone is saying we've struck a blow against the music machine, but we've just shown that we can easily topple the selling power of an overhyped karaoke singer.

Also these are the artists signed to Syco records and the ones that directly affect the money going into Cowell's pocket.

Westlife, Il Divo, Shayne Ward, Leona Lewis, Escala, Rhydian Roberts, Paul Potts, Alexandra Burke, Andrew Johnston, Susan Boyle, Joe McElderry.

If that's 70% of Sony's revenue i'll eat my arse.
 
Good point. Anyone acting like this needs to look at the finer print. It's most certainly not a blow to the corporate music machine.

But it's great for other reasons

It's great because a good song got to number 1 over the usual shite thats peddled out, but surely we could have found a new song to champion as really all we did was the equivalent of getting Bing Crosby song back to number 1.
 
I do just get the feeling that we've all been massively manipulated though.
 
Synco records, Simon Cowells company is owned by Sony and is responsible for 70% of the music arm of the japanese companies revenue. RATM are under the Sony label, why are people acting as if we've just struck a blow to the corperate music machine?

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Im very bored of this ... "oh but RATM are on Sony" bullshit - so fecking what? This campaign is about people power and a kick in the face for manufactured pop music - job done as far as I can see.
 
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Im very bored of this ... "oh but RATM are on Sony" bullshit - so fecking what? This campaign is about people power and a kick in the face for manufactured pop music - job done as far as I can see.

You honestly believe that. That by getting new sales for the same company on a 17 year old song that they own is really a kick in the face of the manufactured music industry. I'm sure the facebook campaign was started in honesty, but as soon as Sony realised it was one of the tracks on their back catologues they made sure it got all the publicity it deserved. What would have been a kick in the face of manufactured music would have been to get some Indy label to number 1. This campaign was all about gullibility and band wagon jumping.
 
I do just get the feeling that we've all been massively manipulated though.

I said that aswell to some friends. I love RATM and i regret never seeing them live, but i didn't buy the single due to the fact it wont change anything, it'll be the same old suspects at the top of the charts. I gave up on the charts a long time ago, anyone who uses them as a gauge of good music needs talked to. Although who am i (or anyone really) to dictate to people what good music is or isn’t?
I saw lightning Bolt playing last weekend, easily the best gig I’ve seen in a good while, but being honest they’ll never have any commercial success and im sure they don’t give a feck. Bands like that don’t do it for money. They do it because they love playing music
Hopefully though this whole event will at least get people talking about music instead of accepting what is on radio 1 as the start and end of music, which is better than nothing.
 
The charts are a mess. If a couple of guys who dont like Xfactor can start a viral campaign through social networking sites to get any song to number 1, theres something seriously wrong.
 
I was gonna buy that RATM single, but feck you I won't do what they tell me.
 
You honestly believe that. That by getting new sales for the same company on a 17 year old song that they own is really a kick in the face of the manufactured music industry.

Eh? I didnt mention the music industry anywhere in my post.
I said it is a kick in the face for 'manufactured pop music' - which is it. Havent you seen the pathetic losers who usually buy this shite crying in the TV, internet forums etc?
Like I said, point proven, job done.

I'm sure the facebook campaign was started in honesty, but as soon as Sony realised it was one of the tracks on their back catologues they made sure it got all the publicity it deserved. What would have been a kick in the face of manufactured music would have been to get some Indy label to number 1. This campaign was all about gullibility and band wagon jumping.

Yes but it never would have happened for an unknown song so such a campaign would have been a waste of time. This track was chosen due to the chorus - anyone who doesnt see that has missed the point entirely.

Basically, I have had more than enough of the various twats who have come on here thinking they are so clever with their 'RATM are on Sony' bullshit - yes we know that and we dont give a feck - so piss off and leave us to revel in this epic victory of 'good' against 'evil' :devil:
 
Well said you ! I'm with you 100% on this. It's a sheer necessity. People need to stop being so lazy. It's a national thing. You gotta get up and make the charts happen. And yes while free downloading has it's merits (lets not get into this) I do think that paying for downloads will help unknowns rise.

Lets hope and pray this all changes the attitudes and minds of those in the Uk

Nothing against downloading, im as guilty as the next person, but I make sure to try and pay for as much as I download. Especially where a band on an independent label, or if someone has released their own material I’ll buy it. That way you know the money is going back to them to help pay for producing more albums/ep’s and organize gigs. Theres some great bands on indie labels at the minute kicking around Ireland at the minute Kinky, if you get a chance check out Adebisi Shank, La Faro, Bats, And so I watch you from afar. Too many to name haha.
 
It's all a bit of fun though.

Anyone who thought this was gonna topple the majors was living in cloud cuckoo land.

It's basically a bit of a practical joke, which pissed off millions of the insipid, dead-eyed hordes who actually like the X Factor and wanted the Joe bloke to get to number one.

I couldn't give two shites about how much the record labels made. They're all in the shit anyway, thanks to file-sharing and the like. At the end of the day, this has given major air-play to a tune I actually enjoy, raised the profile of a genuinely talented band and made £65k for shelter, all at the same time as pissing off Simon Cowell and X-Factor fans.

Job's a good 'un, I'd say.
 
It's basically a bit of a practical joke, which pissed off millions of the insipid, dead-eyed hordes who actually like the X Factor and wanted the Joe bloke to get to number one.

I couldn't give two shites about how much the record labels made. They're all in the shit anyway, thanks to file-sharing and the like. At the end of the day, this has given major air-play to a tune I actually enjoy, raised the profile of a genuinely talented band and made £65k for shelter, all at the same time as pissing off Simon Cowell and X-Factor fans.
Job's a good 'un, I'd say.

Exactly, you'd think the whole aim was to cripple Sony or something.
 
Eh? I didnt mention the music industry anywhere in my post.
I said it is a kick in the face for 'manufactured pop music' - which is it. Havent you seen the pathetic losers who usually buy this shite crying in the TV, internet forums etc?
Like I said, point proven, job done.



Yes but it never would have happened for an unknown song so such a campaign would have been a waste of time. This track was chosen due to the chorus - anyone who doesnt see that has missed the point entirely.

Basically, I have had more than enough of the various twats who have come on here thinking they are so clever with their 'RATM are on Sony' bullshit - yes we know that and we dont give a feck - so piss off and leave us to revel in this epic victory of 'good' against 'evil' :devil:

:lol: So supporting an unknown in the hopes of getting them to number isn't worth it. Your right it's all about the lyrics and the bandwagon jumping victory.
 
It's all a bit of fun though.

Anyone who thought this was gonna topple the majors was living in cloud cuckoo land.

It's basically a bit of a practical joke, which pissed off millions of the insipid, dead-eyed hordes who actually like the X Factor and wanted the Joe bloke to get to number one.

I couldn't give two shites about how much the record labels made. They're all in the shit anyway, thanks to file-sharing and the like. At the end of the day, this has given major air-play to a tune I actually enjoy, raised the profile of a genuinely talented band and made £65k for shelter, all at the same time as pissing off Simon Cowell and X-Factor fans.

Job's a good 'un, I'd say.

It was fun your right, still is.
 
I have said nothing of the sort.
Read my posts and stop twisting them.

Didn't twist anything, I'm not arguing. All it is, is that the people who are responsible for the manufactured pop have made twice as much money this christmas. So I'm afraid the victory is a hollow one for me.
 
Having said all that the biggest downside for me, personally, is that the campaign was organised on frigging Facebook.

I haaaaaaaate Facebook, and everything it stands for. In fact, I hate it just as much as I hate X-Factor.

Facebook is evil and needs to be destroyed.
 
It was started on facebook but it grew beyond that, if it was purely down to facebook it wouldn't have succeeded. It was the publicity it generated on forums like this and in the news with names like Dave Grohl speaking out and getting behind it, the story span itself for weeks and it was bloody brilliant.
 
Didn't twist anything, I'm not arguing. All it is, is that the people who are responsible for the manufactured pop have made twice as much money this christmas. So I'm afraid the victory is a hollow one for me.

Nobody fecking cares about how much the record company made!!!!!

Stop fecking saying it!!!!!!
 
Didn't twist anything, I'm not arguing. All it is, is that the people who are responsible for the manufactured pop have made twice as much money this christmas. So I'm afraid the victory is a hollow one for me.

Well feck off out of this thread and go cry into your half empty glass then !
 
Nobody fecking cares about how much the record company made!!!!!

Stop fecking saying it!!!!!!
Sony made millions.
Sony made millions.
Sony made millions.
Sony made millions.
As it's what allows them to make more shit manufactured pop and promote it throughout the media, for idiots to buy. More people should care.
 
It was started on facebook but it grew beyond that, if it was purely down to facebook it wouldn't have succeeded. It was the publicity it generated on forums like this and in the news with names like Dave Grohl speaking out and getting behind it, the story span itself for weeks and it was bloody brilliant.

Facebook gets mentioned in every single news source that covers this story.

This is not a good thing.

I can just about tolerate some Sony execs feeling pleased about what's happened, it's the thought of the utter cnuts at Facebook getting free PR which grates.
 
******** gets mentioned in every single news source that covers this story.

This is not a good thing.

I can just about tolerate some Sony execs feeling pleased about what's happened, it's the thought of the utter cnuts at ******** getting free PR which grates.

True enough. I have attempted to start to calm this effect with careful editing of your point.

******** is the work of the devil.
 
Well nobody here does, so go and tell somebody else and leave us to enjoy our victory you pessimistic cnut!!

Great victory guys, well done. You really showed em.
 
Either you are just on a WUM or you're completely retarded and have entirely missed the point of this whole thing.

:lol: No I'm with you guys now, we really did it. Wow!
 
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You're all on the same side really.