Rafael da Silva | 2010-14 Performances

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Brazil didnt need 2 games.

And yes he made 2 mistakes, nobody in the Brazil team made less than that. Even the most expensive central defender in the world made more than 2 mistakes. And according to posts on here, he's world class.

I meant 2 goals...and yes, the entire backline was shite. But this thread is about him (it's even titled Rafael to clue people in).
 
The reason Juan gave him a Bollacking is because it wasn't the first time Rafael had played a sloppy pass. He was directly responsible for the first goal and then with Brazil needing 2 games he was sloppy again.

I can't see how anyone can defend him on the basis of that game to be honest.

It was the first minute Devilton. Brazil had over 89 minutes to recover and couldn't. Yes Rafael made a mistake in the opening minute, but its hardly a disaster. The entire team were poor, not just Rafael, all of them.

It was Juans fault in the first place for running past Rafael when he received the ball. Who was Rafael meant to pass to? He had two men on him!
 
He needs to sort out his temper and clumsy challenges to be a top class fullback or have any chance to make it in the WC squad in 2 years time. The difference between him and Marcelo on the opposite side for Brazil at Olympics has been obvious.

:lol: You really think 24 year old starting left back for Real Madrid, Marcelo looked better? Wow, thanks for that insight. Thats very damning Rafael, I hope you're reading.
 
No, but people are going to defend him when a team mate confronts him and acts the dick like that, when the rest of the Brazil team weren't much better. What about the amount of times Neymar gave the ball away and missed chances, what about Marcelo giving the ball away, what about the most expensive defender in the world making a howler and almost costing them another goal?

Once again, i'll point you to the title of this thread. I'm only discussing Rafael here...in the other thread i did say the entire backline was terrible, but we're focusing on one player here.
 
I've given up on him now. After watching him have ANOTHER bad game in the Olympic Final I've decided he'll never be top class. feck all those class games he's had, and feck his age excuse, he should be better than this now.

Remember how good Rio was at 21? How good world class defenders like Vidic and Evra were at the age of 21 playing in top leagues for top clubs?

He's shit and always will be.

Hilarious. :rolleyes:
 
I meant 2 goals...and yes, the entire backline was shite. But this thread is about him (it's even titled Rafael to clue people in).

Its not called "Blame Rafael"

You shouldnt leave rationality at the door when you enter this thread
 
Once again, i'll point you to the title of this thread. I'm only discussing Rafael here...in the other thread i did say the entire backline was terrible, but we're focusing on one player here.

Yes, which makes it more baffling to why he is being singled out by a team mate when the rest of them were just as bad. He didn't play well, it happens. He's had an impressive tournament otherwise.
 
Its not called "Blame Rafael"

You shouldnt leave rationality at the door when you enter this thread

Were you even watching the game?

He was to blame for the first goal. What's wrong with stating facts? Are you so infatuated with the young man that you can't be dispassionate about what happened?

Some real fanboys we have here.
 
Yes, which makes it more baffling to why he is being singled out by a team mate when the rest of them were just as bad. He didn't play well, it happens. He's had an impressive tournament otherwise.

Agreed, alot more positives than negatives for Rafael in this tournament. I still love the fight he has in him, doesn't give in and fights to the end. Got that United passion alright.
 
Were you even watching the game?

He was to blame for the first goal. What's wrong with stating facts? Are you so infatuated with the young man that you can't be dispassionate about what happened?

Some real fanboys we have here.

Can you stop making things up already? Nobody has said he wasnt to blame. But so were other players. He made mistakes, so did other players. It was a team failing and even a manager failing with the obscure selection of Alex Sandro as a second left back, again.

People like yourself are too used to blaming Rafael for Evra's mistakes, I guess its an instant reaction now when a team he is playing for conceeds a goal.
 
:lol: You really think 24 year old starting left back for Real Madrid, Marcelo looked better? Wow, thanks for that insight. Thats very damning Rafael, I hope you're reading.

You missed the point completely. Marcelo is only 2 years older and Rafael is generally a starting right back for us when he's not injured. The difference in quality right now simply highlights how far away Rafael is from a top class fullback.
 
You missed the point completely. Marcelo is only 2 years older and Rafael is generally a starting right back for us when he's not injured. The difference in quality right now simply highlights how far away Rafael is from a top class fullback.

Didn't feel like it last season, someone pull out some stats of his fitness/games started ratio please.
 
You missed the point completely. Marcelo is only 2 years older and Rafael is generally a starting right back for us when he's not injured. The difference in quality right now simply highlights how far away Rafael is from a top class fullback.

Which RB at Rafael's age isnt far away from being a top class fullback?
 
Rafael's hardly the complete player, but he's young, eager to learn, has lots of potential and playing right back for the biggest club in the world.
What's the issue?
 
You missed the point completely. Marcelo is only 2 years older and Rafael is generally a starting right back for us when he's not injured. The difference in quality right now simply highlights how far away Rafael is from a top class fullback.

I watch quite a lot of Real Madrid games and it was only last season that I thought the Marcelo really got his game together and became a top class full back. In his seasons previous there I thought that he was bit of a liability.
 
A few Brazil players had absolute stinkers. Rafael getting the brunt of it though, despite those in front of him not being able to do anything at the other end.
 
He lost the ball for the first goal and that's it, camera zoomed him 500 whenever brazil lost the ball, like it was his fault for everything bad in this game. Their whole team couldn't create two chances against average maxico side, but no, let's just blame rafael.
 
I love Rafael but he's not developed as much as I'd hoped in the last 2 years or so. Still young, and still has time on his side - but he's still a very long way from the finished article
 
He lost the ball for the first goal and that's it, camera zoomed him 500 whenever brazil lost the ball, like it was his fault for everything bad in this game. Their whole team couldn't create two chances against average maxico side, but no, let's just blame rafael.

Have to agree and the 1st goal was down to more than just him. People have a view of Rafael just like they do of Carrick or Hernandez or Anderson and anything that may contradict that is automatically phased out. Rafael could be good for 89 minutes but the 1 minute in which he makes a mistake will overshadow the times he's kept Bale in his back pocket etc.
 
I love Rafael but he's not developed as much as I'd hoped in the last 2 years or so. Still young, and still has time on his side - but he's still a very long way from the finished article

He has so much time on his hands, next season he could turn into the greatest RB of the premier league who knows?
 
Pete, do you think Jenkinson is better than Rafael at this point of time? And who will end up the better player in 3 years time?
 
I love Rafael but he's not developed as much as I'd hoped in the last 2 years or so. Still young, and still has time on his side - but he's still a very long way from the finished article

I wouldn't say he is far from the finished article at all. He has a bit to learn, and has to learn to keep focused and composed during a game, but in terms of technical and physical ability he has all the attributes. It's more mentality that is his issue and that will come with time and experience.
 
One thing no one is factoring in is the defence he was placed in, as much as I rate Thiago Silva I don't think he's superb at organising a backline, Rio is great and Vidic brings a wealth of experience. Apart from today Rafael had a great tournament, he will kick on this year. Players mature at different rates.
 
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