PSG vs Man Utd | Build-up Thread | Return leg Wednesday 06.03

Agreed, although Lyon has come through tough times in terms of quality and playing in PSGs shadow domestically, they have improved but - Barcelona should be at least 55%. I'd go 65% - 35% to Barcelona over two legs.
65%- 35% sounds about right.
 
We did dominate them though. We totally controlled the midfield, created plenty .. our only issue was being wasteful in the final third. We were in control of the game but our youth player fullback made an early error, it happens. You can dominate a match but still not win it, football can be like that.

We got incredibly unlucky to go 1 down vs PSV, dominated the game and created lots of chances and eventually 2 of them went in. And sure, everyone expected Inter to beat PSV but then I think the two best teams in the group stages went through. We outplayed Inter at the San Siro but they scraped two goals at the end from nothing, totally our own doing but they weren't impressive throughout. We got 'some luck' in the final game but were totally lacking luck in the early matches, so that balances it out.

The second half yes, but the first half was all Barca. If Barca fielded their A team Spurs would’ve lost by multiple goals. Coutinho also hit the post twice.
 
Realistically do we have a chance against PSG? A tiny one. Damn I really want to be hopeful but it is so hard esp after seeing the bookmakers odds. It will be a massive shock if we upset PSG. Bar last season, Mourinho has a damn fine record in Europe. Maybe he could pull out some magic and mastermind a win like he always seem to do it. Park a double decker bus and win ala Greece Euro 2004 or Chelsea CL 2012 style. Sigh.
 
Jose, tell us about your opinion on the match.
"I have noffing sho say."
Nothing about the 6-0 loss at all?
"Fussball Heritage"
"I was a champion when You woorked at Tesco"
"Respect respect respect"
 
I must be in the 1% minority, but I can see Bayern make it. Yes, as strange as it sounds, I think Bayern will go through over Liverpool. oh well, we will see by then who win.

I'm an Italy soccer fan, obviously I want Juventus to go through since they an Italy's club. I also want Atletico to go through, their play style is similiar to Italy. It sad to see one of this two will be gone in the knockout stage. I actually hope both make it further.

Juventus vs Atletico, nightmare for me, worsest draw Juventus can get. It just so hard to guess Atletico style of play at each match.
I'm pessimistic so I always go for the worst, but something tell me that Juventus will edge this, Ronaldo and Mandzukic will just somehow get that one goal to send Juventus through.

And Man United, Lord. If we don't make it in top 4 in premier league, we are out of next year Champions league. That mean won't see MUnited until at least 2020. I dunno. I'm scare to even think about it.

Liverpool was very frustrated with rolling around Neymar. I guess this time it our turn to be frustrated.
 
Possibly the worst draw we could get
The opposite.

I think a hammering would definitely be the final nail in the coffin for Jose. The next round CL matchs are in February and by then United would also have lost any mathematical chance of finishing in the top four.

The draw couldn't be sweeter.
February couldn't come sooner.
 
Cavani’s movement will dumbfound our defence.
 
Are you a PSG supporter?

Eh, I'm not as bothered with club football as with international, but I'm originally from Paris and I would like to see them win this competition at least once in my lifetime. I wouldn't consider myself a fan though, but since I've been on these boards for a little bit and this is the first time my hometown's club is playing United, I'm having a little fun.
 
A Mourinho team was knocked out by a 10 man PSG at home the last time they played.....so, you know.

what match, tell me the date/when was that match?

From what I know, mourinho came to manunited in summer 2016.

The last match United vs PSG was in 2015, and PSG won 2-0, but still, it 2015, BEFORE mourinho arrived.
 
what match, tell me the date/when was that match?

From what I know, mourinho came to manunited in summer 2016.

The last match United vs PSG was in 2015, and PSG won 2-0, but still, it 2015, BEFORE mourinho arrived.
He was managing Chelsea at the time.
 
This is the only situation where I'm upset Jose still isn't at Manchester United. It remains to be seen how to the team develops under Ole but if they build up strength this suddenly becomes a much more tricky game than initially thought.
 
This is the only situation where I'm upset Jose still isn't at Manchester United. It remains to be seen how to the team develops under Ole but if they build up strength this suddenly becomes a much more tricky game than initially thought.
Nah... it's all the same. We may be lacking experience across all the lines bar Matic and De Gea. I mean, CL experience that matters. But Rashford and Lingard (and Young) have now a semi final experience in the World Cup, while Pogba won it. We will have to reply on that to slow down the tempo when it will be needed and not waste too much energy.

After that, we are just going to have to be more careful about the full backs because Neymar and Mbappe are going for those spaces for sure.
 
Now that Mou is out, I'm excited about the CL again, PSG or not. Because I don't know what to expect.
 
Nah... it's all the same. We may be lacking experience across all the lines bar Matic and De Gea. I mean, CL experience that matters. But Rashford and Lingard (and Young) have now a semi final experience in the World Cup, while Pogba won it. We will have to reply on that to slow down the tempo when it will be needed and not waste too much energy.

After that, we are just going to have to be more careful about the full backs because Neymar and Mbappe are going for those spaces for sure.
You do know that Pogba has lots of experience in CL at highest levels right?
 
This is the only situation where I'm upset Jose still isn't at Manchester United. It remains to be seen how to the team develops under Ole but if they build up strength this suddenly becomes a much more tricky game than initially thought.

You actually think Jose would steer us through against PSG in the CL? He's lost all semblance of tactical nous. We were in for a heavy defeat under him.

We still may be headed for a heavy defeat, but we know we will atleast try to do something and not bend easily under Ole.
 
This is the only situation where I'm upset Jose still isn't at Manchester United. It remains to be seen how to the team develops under Ole but if they build up strength this suddenly becomes a much more tricky game than initially thought.
You do realize we need to score goals to win games? We got away with a smash and grab win in Turin but PSG would have easily whacked us left, right and center with Jose in charge.
 
You actually think Jose would steer us through against PSG in the CL? He's lost all semblance of tactical nous. We were in for a heavy defeat under him.

We still may be headed for a heavy defeat, but we know we will atleast try to do something and not bend easily under Ole.
Some of my friends who support other clubs feel that we atleast had a chance to beat PSG with Jose (like the Juve away game) but now we don't stand a chance. It seems some United fans share that opinion too but I feel the exact opposite.
 
what match, tell me the date/when was that match?

From what I know, mourinho came to manunited in summer 2016.

The last match United vs PSG was in 2015, and PSG won 2-0, but still, it 2015, BEFORE mourinho arrived.

While he was at Chelsea.

One of the most embarrassing episodes of his career, and an indictment against his supposed superior "pragmatism".
 
Mourinho's last three 2nd leg knockout games in the CL read as the following:

Chelsea vs Atlético Madrid (1-3)
Chelsea vs PSG (2-2) gets knocked out against 10 men
Manchester United vs Sevilla (1-2)

All at home with favorable circumstances and he got knocked out every time in a rather humiliating way. Our chances with Ole are no worse than with Mourinho after you take into consideration the latter recent history in the competition.
 
Mourinho's last three 2nd leg knockout games in the CL read as the following:

Chelsea vs Atlético Madrid (1-3)
Chelsea vs PSG (2-2) gets knocked out against 10 men
Manchester United vs Sevilla (1-2)

All at home with favorable circumstances and he got knocked out every time in a rather humiliating way. Our chances with Ole are no worse than with Mourinho after you take into consideration the latter recent history in the competition.

Ole might not be a clever tactician, but atleast he will know the best way to contain PSG is to press them aggressively rather than sitting back. Giving Neymar or Mbappe too much of the ball and parking the bus will be suicide as they are flair players who can get around any defense if given time on the ball.

But if we press them and try to win the ball, we stand a chance. In any case, if we lose, it will be due to our inferior quality as opposed to tactical issues as in the Sevilla game.

Plus, stranger things have happened. Roma beat Barca in the knock-outs, and I would say the levels are comparable to ourselves and PSG in terms of quality. Sometimes, simple methods work against good teams.
 
I think we all know how Jose would've set up for this match and it may have even gotten us through but it would've been soooo dull that any sense of spectacle and glamour would've instantly drained from the tie.
With Ole I'm confident we'll score atleast 2 goals in the tie,also unfortunately confident we'll concede.
 
Not even a tiny chance the sacked one would go through this game. Now we have a better chance and without being cowards.
 
Jose's tactics vs PSG. Park the bus, a cruise liner and an oil tanker and hope to nick a goal with a vespa

Realistically do we have a chance against PSG? A tiny one. Damn I really want to be hopeful but it is so hard esp after seeing the bookmakers odds. It will be a massive shock if we upset PSG. Bar last season, Mourinho has a damn fine record in Europe. Maybe he could pull out some magic and mastermind a win like he always seem to do it. Park a double decker bus and win ala Greece Euro 2004 or Chelsea CL 2012 style. Sigh.

Jose, tell us about your opinion on the match.
"I have noffing sho say."
Nothing about the 6-0 loss at all?
"Fussball Heritage"
"I was a champion when You woorked at Tesco"
"Respect respect respect"

The opposite.

I think a hammering would definitely be the final nail in the coffin for Jose. The next round CL matchs are in February and by then United would also have lost any mathematical chance of finishing in the top four.

The draw couldn't be sweeter.
February couldn't come sooner.

Scrolled slightly too far up and seeing all these pre-sacking posts - he really had us down in the dumps didn’t he? What an awful manager he was.

With Ole I don’t expect us to go through as they’re a stronger team but at least I’m looking forward to it.

Under Jose we’d still be out but after two legs of dire, depressing football and then him throwing all of players, fans, board under the bus whilst also praising himself for past achievements. Awful.
 
I think we all know how Jose would've set up for this match and it may have even gotten us through but it would've been soooo dull that any sense of spectacle and glamour would've instantly drained from the tie.
With Ole I'm confident we'll score atleast 2 goals in the tie,also unfortunately confident we'll concede.

I think you hit the nail there, the coaches for these teams are not stupid.

Mou was predictable in recent years. They knew exactly what tactics he would use and how they would best meet it because he didn't renew.

But with Ole and a team where he lets the players, who previously had to hold back, use their full creativity, I think they will be much more uncertain about what they will face.

No one knows how Ole thinks tactically in such a match and it can make them make their own mistakes that can be exploited.

From what we have seen so far, it is unlikely that we will be able to handle PSG in two matches, but it is still time left and much can happen before that.

Maybe one or two new players can strengthen the squad in January?
 
I'll be disappointed if we don't beat those arrogant fecker. Their fans have become more arrogant then Madrid, United, Barca, Liverpool, Bayern, Juventus fans put together :lol:. Reading some of french papers and forums, you'll think they are bigger club then United. They are the club a fear the least among the big club in the CL; every time they come across a big team in CL they lost, even this season they struggled against Liverpool and Naples.
 
These two legs will be a reality check - as much as I'm enjoying having Ole in charge, this is going to be a bridge too far. Their forwards are going to tear us to shreds at the back.
 
These two legs will be a reality check - as much as I'm enjoying having Ole in charge, this is going to be a bridge too far. Their forwards are going to tear us to shreds at the back.

Yes, but you know, their stars are not used to a cold night in Manchester where the grass is wet and slippery, or even frozen. 1-0 to us.

When it looks bad, a coincidence can turn everything over, Neymar gets a red card after ten minutes, so we don't give up until the game is over.

0-0 and we move on!
 
Yes, but you know, their stars are not used to a cold night in Manchester where the grass is wet and slippery, or even frozen. 1-0 to us.

When it looks bad, a coincidence can turn everything over, Neymar gets a red card after ten minutes, so we don't give up until the game is over.

0-0 and we move on!

Paris - that place where the climate is vastly different to the one in the UK
 
I Have some hope for this game now , PSG are very edgy when it comes to the CL. if we approach this game with a nothing to loose attitude, we may have a real contest on our hands