PSG vs Man Utd | Build-up Thread | Return leg Wednesday 06.03

cyberman said:
Yeah, this forum has a habit of over hyping PSG every single year.
Its really strange.
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True. Happens year after year and they always crash and burn. Might have to do with the superstars they have in attack and the way they walk all over all the other teams in that French league which makes people have this perception that they are bloated with world class qualities all over the place. They have weaknesses. Their attack is the scariest part.
royboy16 said:
Our leaky defense and away goals could cost us.
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We'll score against them too. Beside still enough time to work on our defense by the time we get to play them. It's harder and takes time to work and organise a solid defense compared to letting talented attackers do their things. So let's how our defensive organization looks like a month.
 
PoTMS said:
They looked comfortably the worst team in that group after Red Star. Somehow Liverpool and Napoli dropped points against the latter or else it would've been curtains for PSG.
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That is a completely nonsensical argument. As if you've decided someone waved a magic wand to make Liverpool and Napoli drop points and it wasn't because they were poor in those games.

Your opinion flies against reality, PSG didn't just qualify, they eased into qualification because they got enough points in the tough games so all they needed to do was beat Red Star away. Something that both Napoli and Liverpool failed to do, teams that are apparently 'comfortably' better than PSG.
 
breakout67 said:
That is a completely nonsensical argument. As if you've decided someone waved a magic wand to make Liverpool and Napoli drop points and it wasn't because they were poor in those games.

Your opinion flies against reality, PSG didn't just qualify, they eased into qualification because they got enough points in the tough games so all they needed to do was beat Red Star away. Something that both Napoli and Liverpool failed to do, teams that are apparently 'comfortably' better than PSG.
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I said they looked the third best team in the group which you can not argue against unless you didn't watch the games and based it simply on the results.

Eased into qualification? Ok, you definitely didn't watch any of their games, did you? They got lucky through the slip ups made by Liverpool but mostly Napoli. Somehow, they didn't lose twice to Napoli who outplayed them home and away. A last minute goal saved them at home after getting pumped in Paris and then they should've got battered in Naples who bizarrely were happy to settle with just a point.

Results don't always indicate the best team. Especially when there's only 6 games to go on. It's the same argument used to argue we were better than Liverpool last year just because we finished a few points ahead of then when everyone and their dog could see they were a better team than us. Likewise, we beat Juventus this year, it doesn't mean shit when we all know they are comfortably a better team than us. We can't draw any conclusions from that game despite the win.

IMO, PSG are not as good as Liverpool and I think most would agree despite PSG finishing ahead of them.
 
PoTMS said:
I said they looked the third best team in the group which you can not argue against unless you didn't watch the games and based it simply on the results.

Eased into qualification? Ok, you definitely didn't watch any of their games, did you? They got lucky through the slip ups made by Liverpool but mostly Napoli. Somehow, they didn't lose twice to Napoli who outplayed them home and away. A last minute goal saved them at home after getting pumped in Paris and then they should've got battered in Naples who bizarrely were happy to settle with just a point.

Results don't always indicate the best team. Especially when there's only 6 games to go on. It's the same argument used to argue we were better than Liverpool last year just because we finished a few points ahead of then when everyone and their dog could see they were a better team than us. Likewise, we beat Juventus this year, it doesn't mean shit when we all know they are comfortably a better team than us. We can't draw any conclusions from that game despite the win.

IMO, PSG are not as good as Liverpool and I think most would agree despite PSG finishing ahead of them.
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No doubt about that although Liverpool away games were awful and way worse than PSG, but PSG is not a team just a collection of stars with quite a few weak points in midfield
 
We are fecking United for crying out loud. We fear no one! Bring them on - they score one, we’ll score two...we will not go out without a fight! I see Neymar whinging and falling over like a crybaby when Smashley or Eric even pass by and whisper something to him. GGMU.

p.s. I would not have posted this a week ago.
 
PSG crashing and burning every year doesnt mean anything for their chances in a new season.
Real had 6 R16 exits in a row, until they stopped and got good.
 
Unique opportunity to discover the real level of each team.

The battle Pogba vs Verratti would be key.

50/50 for me.
 
You know, even if our current form has been a very pleasant sight I go into this game with zero confidence at all. They have so much quality in their team and I think our defence is going to struggle big time.
 
44 domestic game unbeaten streak and 49 domestic cup game winning (!) streak ended tonight. Hopefully a sign of things to come.
 
Samid said:
44 domestic game unbeaten streak and 49 domestic cup game winning (!) streak ended tonight. Hopefully a sign of things to come.
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3 penalties in one half, that is something extra :) Showed really poor decisions in their own box. The first and last penalty were clumsy and unnecessary.
 
If it makes United feel more confident and underestimating PSG a little bit more coming into this game, all the better. I don't like the idea of PSG coming in as the overwhelming favorites.
 
Sayros said:
If it makes United feel more confident and underestimating PSG a little bit more coming into this game, all the better. I don't like the idea of PSG coming in as the overwhelming favorites.
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Nobody will underestimate PSG.

There's a much better feeling about the game now than there was when Mourinho was still here though, that's for sure.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
Nobody will underestimate PSG.

There's a much better feeling about the game now than there was when Mourinho was still here though, that's for sure.
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Yeah, one thing I mentioned in the thread of his sacking is that the only negative to it for me was that United would have a better chance in the CL against PSG. It should be a hell of a game, I just hope no one gets hurt beforehand.
 
For a neutral guy like me, this has potential to be a classic UCL tie. It's got everything you want - top players, top clubs, beautiful stadiums, PSG's quest for the ultimate prize and Man.United's resurgence under OGS.

This will be a very close call, more than people might think. Think i'd rather see United knock PSG out because i don't like the approach of their owners towards football/business, nor do i like Neymar's antics (brilliant footballer, mind). To see them crash out on R16 yet again would be just hilarious to miss.

The Caf should be pumped for this game
 
A lot depends on whether we sign a central defender or not.

With our newly expansive style if we go out there with Shaw/Lindelof/Smalling/Dalot quite simply they'll put too many past us to be surmountable, if we have Alderweireld or similar marshalling that defence then we have a fair shot to hurt them more.
 
Sayros said:
Yeah, one thing I mentioned in the thread of his sacking is that the only negative to it for me was that United would have a better chance in the CL against PSG. It should be a hell of a game, I just hope no one gets hurt beforehand.
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How is that a negative, unless you're a PSG fan? In which case, as you were :)
 
So upset that we got to draw PSG. Even under curent form they are still to powerfull, especially with our defence.
 
IronCroos37 said:
So upset that we got to draw PSG. Even under curent form they are still to powerfull, especially with our defence.
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Piss on that, CL is about testing yourself against the best. If we can't compete with PSG then why bother? We'll give them a game and they'll for sure be wary of us in current form and who knows what will happen.
 
This tie doesn't look that formidable now. If we can keep our form going, we have a decent chance of beating them.
 
I’d be absolutely amazed if Jones didn’t give away a penalty against Neymar/Mbappe over the two legs.

All the rest I’m feeling good about - our attack is on form and their midfield against ours isn’t a mismatch at all. Tuchel hates playing with a midfield anyway.
 
NYAS said:
I’d be absolutely amazed if Jones didn’t give away a penalty against Neymar/Mbappe over the two legs.

All the rest I’m feeling good about - our attack is on form and their midfield against ours isn’t a mismatch at all. Tuchel hates playing with a midfield anyway.
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Hopefully Smalling is up and running for those ties.
 
If we sure up that defence or De Gea has another inspired performance, we're going through. I think of all the games, this will be Solskjaer's acid test.
 
PoTMS said:
I said they looked the third best team in the group which you can not argue against unless you didn't watch the games and based it simply on the results.

Eased into qualification? Ok, you definitely didn't watch any of their games, did you? They got lucky through the slip ups made by Liverpool but mostly Napoli. Somehow, they didn't lose twice to Napoli who outplayed them home and away. A last minute goal saved them at home after getting pumped in Paris and then they should've got battered in Naples who bizarrely were happy to settle with just a point.

Results don't always indicate the best team. Especially when there's only 6 games to go on. It's the same argument used to argue we were better than Liverpool last year just because we finished a few points ahead of then when everyone and their dog could see they were a better team than us. Likewise, we beat Juventus this year, it doesn't mean shit when we all know they are comfortably a better team than us. We can't draw any conclusions from that game despite the win.

IMO, PSG are not as good as Liverpool and I think most would agree despite PSG finishing ahead of them.
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I watched every single game. The worst performance by any team in that group was by Liverpool against Red Star. If you wanna talk about luck then what about Napoli missing an open net and a few sitters against Liverpool?

My opinion has nothing to do with results really. Because my opinion is that Napoli had the best general play in the group but had shocking finishing which was their undoing. PSG on the other hand had the highest quality forwards which made a difference multiple times in getting them out of tough situations. It's really strange to big up Liverpool based on this group stage, then were pitiful in 3 away games in a row and only registered 1 shot on target from a penalty for god's sake.

PSG has a better front three than Liverpool, a better albeit sub-par midfield than Liverpool (Liverpool's midfield has been a weak area for ages, just ask pool fans), and the defence is better for Liverpool. Klopp is a better manager, but it's not as if he's the second coming of Cruyff, he's been found wanting tactically countless times.
 


Verratti "very" wounded according to Tuchel, he went to the hospital. Very bad news
 
Alright so with Rabiot gone and Verratti injured their only central/defensive midfielders are a defender (Marquinhos) and grandpa Diarra.
 
Infordin said:
Maybe not by February

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Interesting. Only knew they were in for De Jong, but that it wont happen until Summer.
You're right, they will likely try anything to get Paredes now.

Anyways our chances look so much better compared to early Dec., really looking forward to the game now.

Edit: wow they scored 5 goal in 20 min after my post. :lol:
 
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Verratti is overrated anyway... Mbappe, Neymar and Cavani there, they're going to be hard to keep out no matter what the rest of their team looks like.
 
It’s the front three we should be worried about, not their midfield.
 
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