There were a lot of options for “stupid as feck” statements, but he went to the top of the pile. Just deplorable.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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There were a lot of options for “stupid as feck” statements, but he went to the top of the pile. Just deplorable.
Ahe, I’m all too aware of that pal which is why I thought it best to clear it up whereas I’d usually leave a joke like that roll.
I can't see the protests ramping up because our policing is levels above the Americans. That's not to say we don't have complaints against British cops but nothing like America.
You’re a true hero
Wait wot. So if you steal a TV, police brutality is your fault?
What the actual feck is this?
Telling people they are to blame for the death of the man they are protesting? My god, how evil can you be?
Wow...half way I was thinking...maybe he has a point, a lot of them are criminals taking advantage and not protestors...............and then he blames them for the George Floyd Killing. I don't know what to say!!!
So you have an idiot of chief and then we have a Covidiot on the left who is wearing his masks for the cameras?
Why? Is he going to loot a shop and wants to be unidentified?
Whether it's 'in fashion' or not, it raises awareness, which is necessary & long overdue.
They're also not causing any harm, and the visibility & reach that these posts have is going to cause more good than bad, because it unearths the racists, and it may prompt people who don't have to live with racism to do their own research just to keep up to date with current trends.
My only issue is with brands/corporations/businesses who post up something to do with BLM but have a history of discrimination, lack of diversity at leadership, high turnover of minority employees etc. Similarly for celebrities/influencers too.
I don't really see what good it does judging people for posting up harmless hashtags/pics in support of a worthy cause otherwise.
edit - just seen your edit now.
Have you donated to any causes? signed any petitions? put up some posts yourself? spoken to family members/friends who are silent/unaware of whats going on?
I am not sure they would even blame their Donald. Its everyone else that is at fault. Its a witch-hunt dont you know!
Of course he would do that. At this point shits hit the fan and he is going to do everything to appease. Not to mention ordering firing bullets at media personal. In any private company, industry or heck sport the buck stops at the manager and failure of any function is the managers responsibility.
The start is with proper accountability. Management in the police forced across the nation should feel if they have racist/power tripping cops in their unit their job is at risk.
So I don't know if it should be the chief or someone who is direct management (I don't know that much about police ranks) but management has to be held accountable.
Why am I not surprised by this.
Another step towards an all out civil (race) war has just been taken. They are turning their own military on there own people. What an absolute shambles the USA is.
"his death is on their hands" ?! Jesus Christ... just when you thought you'd heard it all.
A civil war will be a one way street. The bad guys have all the power.
I don't know why I'm surprised, but there's an almost shocking amount of police brutality out there just from the last few days. I'd seen some, but there are so many. And in most cases it's clear that the police agitated without provocation, in many cases against press clearly identified as such, and in some cases against press not even remotely near any protestors. I'm beginning to think that when it comes to the US, all cops are indeed bastards.
I don't see the necessity for sarcasm. The guy asked what I had done, I answered that I have educated myself of the situation, citing an example.
That's why I said if you post whilst actually understanding the situation, then thats good. My issue is with people who are not actually understanding the situation and just posting on social media because everyone else is doing it and because it may make them cool, it's an empty gesture which doesn't actually mean anything. For anything to actually change, the gestures must be meaningful or otherwise in about a month all of this will be forgotten and no one will have learned anything.
I haven't posted anything on social media although I did sign a petition. As a member of the public, it's my responsibility to treat people the same way regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation etc. If everyone does that, then racism is eradicated. Posting on social media doesn't do anything unless you actually understand the reasons behind it and what each individual member of the public has to do to confront this problem. As I said, I get that quite a few people are posting on social media in a sincere way to raise awareness for this issue (which is of course good), however there are also some which are to the contrary. And also my gripe is where all this global commotion was when it's been happening (and documented on mobile phones) for years.
I would agree with you in parts. The true message has started to get diluted with people who don't really care using it as an opportunity for 'look at me' self promotion, and others using it as an opportunity to simply go and steal stuff. I don't believe either are helpful as once the original focus of the protest gets lost so does the momentum. If it's a cause you truly care about, go out and actually do something.
When segregation ended would you have been like "why now"?
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Not only that. The more I've thought about it, the more burning down shit makes sense. It's that shit that the police defends when they are killing, it's that shit's taxes that pays their wages, and that shit's voters that don't think change is neccessary. If you feel like the system doesn't care about your life, destructing it's pillars makes perfect sense.
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Yeah that is a good point, and why I said my original post was somewhat irrational (i.e. a movement must eventually start somewhere). But of course to answer your question, I wouldn't have said that.
Truth is a lot of cops long for an event like this to put on all their cosplay gear, play with all their toys and crack some skulls.
We saw that little prick bouncing on his toes the other day just waiting to go. Another crew walking through a normal neighbourhood and one shouting "LIGHT THEM UP!" before shooting at people at their doorway. Bunch of roidy little cnuts.
We saw that little prick bouncing on his toes the other day just waiting to go. Another crew walking through a normal neighbourhood and one shouting "LIGHT THEM UP!" before shooting at people at their doorway. Bunch of roidy little cnuts.
I'm failing to see how there's a difference in awareness raised when one person posts something on social media who doesn't the situation (your interpretation) vs awareness raised when someone who apparently does understand the situation, does it.
If i'm being honest, I don't think anyone understands the situation.
I think black & ethnic minorities know what it's like to live with racism, I think white people know that racism is wrong, and I think an increasing portion of people are beginning to bear witness to the scale of police brutality - however that last group of people are learning this primarily through social media.
There's probably dozens of people in this thread alone who are seeing treatment of black people at the hands of police that they otherwise wouldn't have been exposed to, if it wasn't for social media.
Beyond that, nobody knows whats going to happen next, nobody knows to what extent this will reach, nobody knows when it stops - none of that seems like having an understanding of a situation to me.
CEO of the company I work for sent out the blandest, most corporate "take care of each other" email ever
Doesn't burning shit down(as run over police) justify the forceful police response during these days ?, or how should the police act to take control of the situation
70 out of 700 were adjudged to have committed a crime.
So at least 90% of people arrested were innocent.
That’s not really cause for any kind of celebration Mr Police Man.
Brutality is absolutely intrinsic to the police system in the US. It's always been the case, it's only that events now are making more people aware of it than before. The idea that there were 'bad apples' completely missed the point when you have a system that is consciously designed to legitimise violence, harassment and murder without consequence i.e. actively encourages and protects these 'bad apples'.
He was called out on those comments and apologised for them:
https://deadline.com/2020/06/lapd-c...-floyds-death-is-on-looters-hands-1202948867/
I still don't understand how he gets from stating 10% of those arrested after curfew were involved in looting/damaging businesses to the conclusion that there were no protests and everyone who was out was involved in criminality.
That seems like a dangerous starting point for the police mindset and not in line with the facts as he presented them.
He's an absolute d1ck for saying that, especially right now.
The point he is (really badly)making has been made in so many ongoing conflicts before. 'We only did this because you did that', ad infinitum. This argument carries some validity only when there is a semblance of equality between the warring parties.
The relationship between the police in the US and African Americans is much more like the bully trying to provoke a reaction, then acting all innocent when the bullied party finally loses their temper.
Maybe understand is the wrong word, I mean more 'being able in the future to critically evaluate yourself and adjust your actions if need be in order to treat everyone the same way regardless of their background'.
The starting point of anything will always seem arbitrary because if it's legitimate it could always have happened earlier. My concern is more about the potential for focus to be hijacked from the event itself. Media outlets will be delighted to cover this from any angle which doesn't involve an unmediated look at social inequality and racism. They usually use celebrities to water it down.
My understanding of it is if someone posts something once during this situation and doesn't follow through on that 'one' post compared to people that use this moment to push for long term commitment and change i.e make sure that this moment, even if it is the first time they have spoken up about it, it isn't the last time either.
Yes I also agree with your sentiment.
It doesn't really matter if the previous level of forcefulness was already killing you.
What have you done to stop racism?
Well I made a thread on a football forum
it’s at least a little funny, and I couldn’t resist, sorry man.
It’s not that I don’t see your point. It’s important that people do have a grasp on why these protests are happening. But at the same time people on social media tweeting about this are at least raising awareness. There’ll be a lot of people who wouldn’t have know about the scale and the depth of the problem. They’ll have spent the last few days educating themselves and listening to the stories of those who are directly affected. It can be a powerful motivator and even if it’s someone who up until this point has been oblivious to the extent of the problem (which they shouldn’t have been) seeing the movement now may be the point in which they wake up.
A LAPD don't change its spots, mate.