You cannot possibly be serious.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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You cannot possibly be serious.
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Feck off.
If you ever think "I'll play Devil's Advocate", just don't.
They are gangsters.
People need to realise this isn't the thread or time to be playing devils advocate when we're literally seeing police brutality and corruption live on our TV screens.
Must have been a very serious incident if they where willing to drive into a crowd to get to it. Risking injury or death to so many. Maybe there was an unarmed black man on the loose somewhere.
I can’t even imagine what has to go on in your head to see a police SUV ram into a crowd of people through a barrier and think “I’m going to defend that”.
Jesus Christ.
This is so far beyond the tipping point it's incredible. I don't see how the US rows back from this.
Pretty certain he's a copper if memory serves. Could be wrong.
They're showing even more brutality on Live fooking telly
That’s just not what we are witnessing right now.
He is, but even so...
That is fecking vile. What this whole situation has hopefully shown most people is that the police do not care if you turn your camera on and film them doing these things. They've gotten away with it for so long that it's ingrained into their being now that they can harm people rather than protect them. It also shows that this isn't just an individual person by person in the police issue but a problem with the whole police structure and atmosphere.
The police should be the avenue to protect people and society but right now it is an avenue for people who want to be racist in a safe space - that is why there is a problem with the police structure/atmosphere overall and you will hear people want to dislike it rather than only the individuals (Who are quite obviously scum too).
Whenever I see questionable posts such as this I make it a habit to search certain words by the poster in the search bar just to see if they are having a mare in one thread or if their viewpoint is consistent. Anyway from what I found all I’m going to say is much like atze this is another guy not worth debating with on racial issues.
There's no justification for driving through them at that speed and as I say they should have tired to reverse away from it but there's other things to consider and whilst these riots go on you have to remember other demand carries on and the emergency services need to get to those people who need them so I can't say I agree with blocking roads and attacking vehicles.
Most of them don’t have the balls to pull the trigger against another human. It’s only the truly deranged that will do it.
Isn't it just. Do you think it will make mainstream news though? That's the question.
What a ridiculous take.
The level of pain in this video is the thing that people don't understand. Not saying they are family, but when you've seen your parents and grand parents struggle, and are now going through it yourself, the fear of your kids going through the same shit is crushing.
So glad that he's trying to make the young kid understand there has to be a better way.
Your bias is beyond comprehension. This is why police forces are the way they are, every office instinctively tries to justify things.
The crowd are standing behind a metal temporary railing for feck sake. The police were clearly not trying to drive through that route, they just decided to ram the crowd because they have no care for human life whatsoever.
That's the problem isn't it though Nick, I didn't say that. Infact I said there's no justification for driving through them at that speed and they should have tried to reverse away from it. The point I'm making is blocking off emergency vehicles who are going to incidents and attacking them is likely to cause situations like this sadly.
The crowd have picked the temporary railing up from the side of the road and are using it to block the vehicle in. That's why there's only one of them. It's been detached from others as they all interlink. Anyway as I've said already you can't justify driving through the crowd at that speed.
Or potentially worse...
Excellent post. It’s crazy you’d think after everything that’s going on they’d try and be more subtle but during these protests all they’ve been is open and blatant about their complete disregard for human life.
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It's echoing the message of Killer Mike. Hopefully that's a rhetoric that takes hold and it become embedded in ethnic minorities to use their vote to truly empower themselves and to hold those who wrong them to account. It's the only way things will actually change.
You dont mow down civilians on the road in the name of any emergency.
On a lighter note (I am aware that this is a serious situation, dont worry)
You’re doing your best to play it down and explain it away though.
The police are a mob.
I think some people don't realise in a large scale riot situation that the world still turns and other things carry on. If you close down cities and block off the roads you'll get left with something out of The Purge.
At what point does this terrible situation de-escalate as at the moment it keeps getting ramped up past breaking point.
Beyond a reasonable doubt is defined as “that no other logical explanation can be derived from the facts except that the defendant committed the crime, thereby overcoming the presumption that a person is innocent until proven guilty”.
The video evidence shows murder .That is unquestionable. But what it doesn’t explicitly prove is whether it was either premeditated or deliberate.
I can look at that horrible video and with 100% Certainty say that it was a deliberate murder. But I can’t prove it and neither can the prosecution.
I sat on a jury for a horrific case where a man was accused of anally and vaginally raping and beating his 7 year old daughter and his wife on multiple occasions.
The hardest thing to do in those circumstances is separate emotion from evidence.
We found that scumbag guilty of 5 of the 7 charges against him. There isn’t a doubt in my mind that he was guilty of the other two either, but there just wasn’t the evidence to convict.
The fact that juries convict on evidence rather emotion is what makes the system work in my opinion.
I think that they will make an example of him. He’ll get the full 25 year sentence imo. Not what he deserves, but better than having him walk free due to lack of murder one evidence.
Its not all of them though as evidence by the videos of some forces joining in with the protestors in some format in some cities.
Its worth pointing that out as well.
Scenes you'd expect to see from a 3rd world country. Arresting news speakers for no reason infront of live camera, police driving into crowds with their SUVs, police standing on a man's neck for 9 minutes until he's dead.
Easily a third world country, just with the ability to print infinite money and hold the rest of the world ransom with military power.
Easily a third world country, just with the ability to print infinite money and hold the rest of the world ransom with military power.
Cant fight the virus with a riot gear sadly.
The whole situation on both sides needs to de-escalate. I'm sure you agree with that? The protests are legitimate and should remain as peaceful as possible. There's plenty of officers who will likely agree with the cause, as seen in some of the other videos circulating. There's also plenty of officers who aren't racist and do the job they do to serve and help their communities.
Painting everyone in the same light just continues the cycle and gets us nowhere.
I understand the thought process of it changing something, but how true that actually turns out to be is hard to gauge.
The people that have the opportunity to make a difference and get higher up the chain, invariably don't want to see black people thrive. Much like the professor on the news was saying. No matter if you riot, peaceful protest, block vote. Nothing will change. And that's the most depressing part of it all.