Protests following the killing of George Floyd


I actually laughed when he said show me your hands after shooting half a dozen times and seeing him on the ground.

Next post is a GoFundMe for his hospital, which is so typical.
 

I actually laughed when he said show me your hands after shooting half a dozen times and seeing him on the ground.

Next post is a GoFundMe for his hospital, which is so typical.

What’s wrong with a GoFundMe page set up to hopefully defray the cost of his hospitalization, etc.?
 
Regarding the ‘charges’ for Breonna Taylor’s murderer, I just saw a post that summed it up amazingly:

The police murdered a women in her sleep and only charged him for the bullets that missed her!

Even more mind-boggling when you view it that way!
 
Regarding the ‘charges’ for Breonna Taylor’s murderer, I just saw a post that summed it up amazingly:

The police murdered a women in her sleep and only charged him for the bullets that missed her!

Even more mind-boggling when you view it that way!
Cops would be in more trouble now if they tore a statue down.
 
What’s wrong with a GoFundMe page set up to hopefully defray the cost of his hospitalization, etc.?
Personally I'd say what's wrong is that the phsyco inbred hicks that shot a disturbed child are paid from tax payers pockets but paying for his treatment and care is reliant on donations from those with a heart/conscience
America gets more fecked and ridiculous by the day, and that's coming from someone living in the laughing stock that is modern britain.
 


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I don't think it is physically possible to cut police budgets, they will make enough people suffer.
 
I will just say. I haven't been following each individual incident as closely but the Breonna Taylor case has been mentioned by sports people a lot so couldn't avoid it. Everything I heard makes it seem like the cops charged in and shot an innocent nurse in her bedroom. No mention of the boyfriend shooting first, the drug connections etc The narrative setting can be scary and I'd argue counter productive to the goals of police n prison reform.
 
I will just say. I haven't been following each individual incident as closely but the Breonna Taylor case has been mentioned by sports people a lot so couldn't avoid it. Everything I heard makes it seem like the cops charged in and shot an innocent nurse in her bedroom. No mention of the boyfriend shooting first, the drug connections etc The narrative setting can be scary and I'd argue counter productive to the goals of police n prison reform.

The 'drug connections' are irrelevant, as she was not personally involved and, as far as I'm aware, the police were not specifically ever looking for her or attempting to charge her with anything.

The boyfriend shot first because a group of random men burst into his home in the middle of the night, seemingly unannounced. In a country where two of the major arguments for guns are a) protection against home invaders and b) protection against an over reaching government.... Seems he's ticking both boxes there.

Obviously as always, there is always a bit more nuance to the situation. In this case, also as the police, once someone starts shooting, you're going to start shooting back. I blame the system more than I blame the individual cops.Though I have to ask how on earth they managed to totally miss the actual shooter and instead riddled his sleeping girlfriend with bullets instead.

What I find slightly more scary is how every single time something like this happens, the past is brought up. A did this once. B stole some purses when he was a teen. C was dating a guy who sold drugs in the past.

As if any of that stuff in the past allows for extra judicial killings by the police.
 
I will just say. I haven't been following each individual incident as closely but the Breonna Taylor case has been mentioned by sports people a lot so couldn't avoid it. Everything I heard makes it seem like the cops charged in and shot an innocent nurse in her bedroom. No mention of the boyfriend shooting first, the drug connections etc The narrative setting can be scary and I'd argue counter productive to the goals of police n prison reform.

Well the information is out there so any discussion this far down the line usually assumes you know the facts.

The 'drug connection' was based on out of date information, given she had cut all ties with that suspect.

The problems people have with the case are procedural and the police shot multiple rounds into the apartment blindly, killing her, which is against policy. They are supposed to have a clear line of sight to who they are shooting at.

For some reason they sent the stand-by ambulance away an hour before the raid which is also against procedure and medical attention only arrived after the boyfriend called 911. It's unlikely she could have been saved in any case for to the severity of her injuries.

There was also the question of whether they announced they were police and they have changed that to now outlaw 'no-knock' entries in Louisville.
 
Appreciate the additional information lads. I agree with africanspur that there is the counterpart narrative setting that can get pretty insidious citing past criminal history or drug use or whatever. I will just say what I've been saying since this conversation picked up steam about a decade ago, cops need better training and the cdc or some government organization needs all the data possible to come up with solutions. The idea that you don't know how many bullets are fired or people are shot by a police force in this day and age is crazy.
 
Well the information is out there so any discussion this far down the line usually assumes you know the facts.

The 'drug connection' was based on out of date information, given she had cut all ties with that suspect.

The problems people have with the case are procedural and the police shot multiple rounds into the apartment blindly, killing her, which is against policy. They are supposed to have a clear line of sight to who they are shooting at.

For some reason they sent the stand-by ambulance away an hour before the raid which is also against procedure and medical attention only arrived after the boyfriend called 911. It's unlikely she could have been saved in any case for to the severity of her injuries.

There was also the question of whether they announced they were police and they have changed that to now outlaw 'no-knock' entries in Louisville.
From what I've read the no knock warrant was changed so they were supposed to just knock and announce themselves. Not be bashing the door down whether on not they did actually announce themselves. I don't think it was clear enough even in the event they did as why is her partner shooting at the police when he's not wanted for anything?
 
From what I've read the no knock warrant was changed so they were supposed to just knock and announce themselves. Not be bashing the door down whether on not they did actually announce themselves. I don't think it was clear enough even in the event they did as why is her partner shooting at the police when he's not wanted for anything?

Maybe because thee guys bashed in his door in the middle of the night without announcing who they were?
 
Maybe because thee guys bashed in his door in the middle of the night without announcing who they were?
I meant that the police didn't make it clear that it was the police, even if they did try to announce themselves because he acted like people were breaking into the house.
 
I meant that the police didn't make it clear that it was the police, even if they did try to announce themselves because he acted like people were breaking into the house.

Ah, got it. Sounds like we’re on the same page.
 
If such a thing as a no-knock policy is or has been in place in a country where you're legally allowed to shoot trespassers then you've basically designed something where people and police officers are meant to shoot at each other.
 
If such a thing as a no-knock policy is or has been in place in a country where you're legally allowed to shoot trespassers then you've basically designed something where people and police officers are meant to shoot at each other.
Does no knock policy mean police don't have to shout-announce themselves?
 
Maybe because thee guys bashed in his door in the middle of the night without announcing who they were?
Didnt they have a no knock warrant though?

That part of the equation isnt their fault.

Blindly firing is.

There's two issues going on here
 
If such a thing as a no-knock policy is or has been in place in a country where you're legally allowed to shoot trespassers then you've basically designed something where people and police officers are meant to shoot at each other.
i can see why it would be a policy.

It doesnt give time for criminals to escape or flush drugs or whatever, but ot does lead to other issues such as excatly what happened here, someone rightly defending themselves.
 
Didnt they have a no knock warrant though?

That part of the equation isnt their fault.

Blindly firing is.

There's two issues going on here

They had a no knock warrant, but according WaPo it was illegally filled out. Also, they can’t have their cake and eat it too. They can’t hide behind having a no knock warrant while also claiming they gave ample warning (which only one witness says they heard, only only after saying in two interviews with police they didn’t before being “convinced” in the third interview they had).

Edit: this may be helpful.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ormation-about-breonna-taylor/?outputType=amp
 
This is all manna from heaven for the far right. Great way to turn the average person against a worthy cause by rioting and burning down neighbourhoods.
 
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Oh for fecks sake!

The city is gong to burn because of this! Frankly with decisions like this I think it deserves to.

:eek: :wenger: That's just stupid post. It's not the City's or even City people's fault. It's only certain people making that decision, or get involved.