Do you know the circumstances surrounding the first shooting? Without knowing that I cant say the shootings captured on video can be called murder.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Do you know the circumstances surrounding the first shooting? Without knowing that I cant say the shootings captured on video can be called murder.
What was a 17 year old kid from out of town and part of a militia group promoting violence doing there?
I don’t know and I’m not sure if it’s relevant. The question is did he break the law and did he commit murder? How are you making judgements without knowing the facts?
I know the main part. One guy getting shot in the face by another guy wielding an assault rifle.
As someone who lives here thanks for this.
I personally don’t hope anything bad happens to you or the people you love because I am not a horrible human being who revels in group punishment. But hey, you do you.
You could be describing the death of Osama here. Don’t the facts matter?
What does that even mean
How can why he went to another town with a gun not be relevant? Are you serious right now.
He was being figurative. Not asking for the country to be literally burnt to the ground with fire.
Woah there, it's the greatest country in the world!
From what I’ve read it seems like the police officers involved in the George Floyd case have got a pretty good chance of being found not guilty. It’ll be fecking chaos if that happens.
What do you think this “figurative” fire is? A campfire singalong? No, any figurative burning to the ground will include violence and suffering.
Prove that he murdered the first guy. Any evidence?
Comments like this are so stupid.
Same as the “America deserves what it gets for voting in Trump” narrative. Just straight idiotic.
What we're watching is the televised death of American exceptionalism. Trump (and Biden) are the last throws of the dice for a country in the last throes of mass delusion. It's not so long ago that many Americans, even here, wouldn't have fathomed any question over the greatness of their justice system. Hiding behind those empty patriotic statements has become impossible now and the US as a nation is waking up to many unheaded realities.
I remember this. A nervous chuckle it was.
feck knows how this will all turn out.
I am looking at some other forums and am very surprised what i am seeing. A well known Irish forum appears to be 90% in favour of that little scrote with the rifle. A different forum I do be on which is extremely left leaning want to see all BLM protesters have guns too which is a scary prospect.
The country is beyond fecked and I dont see much changing in November
I am looking at some other forums and am very surprised what i am seeing. A well known Irish forum appears to be 90% in favour of that little scrote with the rifle. A different forum I do be on which is extremely left leaning want to see all BLM protesters have guns too which is a scary prospect.
The country is beyond fecked and I dont see much changing in November
Whats it called?
Its 300 million country. Not everyone is a sociopathic materialistic and racist. The number that are, as it appears, is really disconcerting.
Still, comments such as 'burn everything' are really not helpful.
Still, comments such as 'burn everything' are really not helpful.
So at first I got pissed because I thought you were being condescending. Then I realized I am a moron. Well played.
Just to clarify what I mean by burn America to the ground and start over. I mean pulling down the entire diseased system, from education, to healthcare, to the system of democracy, to to gun laws, etc. And building it all from scratch.
A number of my relatives are American, some of the best people I've met are American. I have nothing against Americans, I have a problem with the power structure and each and every institution designed to keep the working/black man down.
How anyone can look at America and say "that's the country I want/am proud to live in" is beyond me.
A number of my relatives are American, some of the best people I've met are American. I have nothing against Americans, I have a problem with the power structure and each and every institution designed to keep the working/black man down.
How anyone can look at America and say "that's the country I want/am proud to live in" is beyond me.
Seems that way. not because of loss of direction, it just doesnt want to be fixed
I was thinking about it yesterday, it looks a lot like african countries during the years preceeding civil wars. Now I don't think that it will go that far because they have far stronger police institution at state and federal level but from the outside it looks like a country that is socially broken.
I can't disagree with this, except to add that I think we have always been this broken. It's just that with the advent of ubiquitous cell phone cameras and social media it is now brought to the fore and can no longer be ignored. Add to this a president and party that realize they can only remain in power (and out of jail) is by stoking this division and you have what you now see. This is why I get so frustrated with the "I don't like Biden, he's just as bad as Trump" crowd. Sure, Biden and his policies suck, but the alternative is terrifying.
Exactly what I was thinking before making the post. It reminds me of Nigeria before the civil war in the late 60s. Two sects (Igbo and Hausa) who have irreconcilable differences. Here there are no tribal sects but ideological sects. Too many similarities, arm proliferation, violence is tolerated as long as it's done in defense of my side, a weak central government we can go on.
Insulting another member
He's already been charged with first degree murder a day later. There's video evidence of him admitting it doing it, multiple witnesses. What more do you want, you fecking imbecile? Stand right next to him and cheer him on, while he's doing it?!
It's a fair point with the difference that more and more people won't accept the idea of leaving in a broken society and social media will always galvanize those feelings, it will also give life to the alt right. I find the idea crazy but I do think that americans should keep this in mind because I'm sure that lots of Africans, Central Americans and South Americans are having flashbacks. And the worst part is that you have teenagers involved, so the next generation is already formatted, they are already involved in what is an actual conflict.
Too much apologists for the status quo, resistance to change, exceptionalism...
This is the problem with guns in America. There's enough in that video to make me think that he could get off any murder charges. The first he's being chased. The second he's about to be lynched.
I agree. Technically a case can be made for self-defense, but it's self-defense with a automatic rifle which inevitably leads to these kind of scenarios. The fact he apparently isn't old enough own and open-carry a AR will for sure work against him.
Yeh, he's obviously a complete idiot...not sure how manslaughter works in the US, maybe they could get that through due to him carrying an illegal weapon.
This is what happens when people are oppressed. Protesting and riots are inevitable. The fact that these wannabe vigilantes are now shooting people dead and being patted on the back by law enforcement is sick. The media and the government have a responsibility to lower tensions and stop these things from happening but instead fan the flames and make everything worse.Ok precious.
I didn't cast any aspersions on the victims, I just said the second and third shooting will be seen as self defence by anyone remotely familiar with US law. And having seen the first shooting now his legal team will probably even make a case for self defence there.
None of which is to say that an out of town 17 year old should be wandering around in the chaos of protests and riots armed with an assault rifle. But this sort of thing is now an inevitability in America. So anyone who brushes off rioting, looting and arson is also brushing off the fact that this sort of shooting incident is only going to happen more and more often if violent protests continue.
If he manages to get off of the murder of the second chap that is absolutely nuts. They were trying to subdue a criminal and that can be seen given that one of them had a gun and could have killed him but instead tried to disarm the the shooter. He was shot in the arm for his troubles.
The fact that far right militias are able to roam freely is baffling as well. These crowds should be dispersed and sent back to their homes but instead are being commended. The whole situation is fecked.
I asked for evidence that he committed murder not that he killed someone there is a difference. What I see is a video where somebody charges him and he shoots them. I bet you he doesn’t get convicted of murder based on the video evidence and your post insulting me just shows that some people can’t handle mature discussions of controversial issues.
"Prove it"
"Don't facts matter?"
" Yup anyone who has a different opinion from the standard accepted narrative is a disgrace. "
If this is how a mature discussion looks like I'd love to see you get immature.