Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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To be honest, I dont think he is being disingenuous, just stubborn.
I've seen his posts in other threads and he just WILL NOT back down from any opinions he has, regardless of accuracy, sensitivity or lots of other posters trying to convince him otherwise. Instead he doubles down and probably easier to ignore.
100% Trump knew what he meant and the connotations.
This is spot on and very insightful. Kind of removes all the bells and whistles to explain the issue and it's significance. Interesting take on "society" too.
Thanks for sharing this.
Why CNN ?
What's with the Killer Mike tshirt saying kill your masters? Kill your white masters?
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
As a side note I just noticed that the officer still had his knee firmly on George’s neck when those guys came and they don’t seem to tell him to remove it. Even as they’re setting up the stretcher...
No specific medical cause of death mentioned. Sure there would be exacerbating factors with regards to co-morbidities (including hypertension and atherosclerosis) that may have made him more susceptible to hypoxia and presumably cardiac arrest but i can't see how they can say you need pathological signs of strangulation or traumatic asphyxia to make the diagnosis. Even if you can't see overt signs of central cyanosis it is wise to rule out asphyxia simply on that basis.
Did they study his organs for signs of perfusion damage due to possible lack of blood flow from the carotids? I remember once in anatomy class trying to demonstrate palpation of carotid pulse and did it stupidly on both sides for just a few seconds and the demonstrator told me off.They mentioned themselves that "violent restraint" is what contributed - but how? How did that violent restraint manifest in terms of a pathological process which killed him?
And the bit about potential intoxicants is bizarre agreed. I think the implication might be opioids or any other substances which either resulted in or contributed to respiratory or cardiac arrest but without a tox screen thats just an asinine presumption to make.
Mind you I'm willing to give that pathologist benefit of the doubt that the full report is possibly more nuanced etc and limited by what they were able to examine but the intoxicants bit and the rest of the paraphrased stuff from preliminary findings and the way its been phrased makes me think I'm being over-generous.
Pashun and teqhnique .. Hope we had scouts in attendance
With all the conspiracy theorists saying it’s all fake? Yeah, me too.
Yeah, I don't really know what uniforms they wear over there so thought I'd have a read through to try to figure out why people who weren't paramedics would be arriving in and ambulance. A minute later I'm reading people suggesting this is all a set up and George Floyd was possibly injected with a tranquilliser to pretend he was dead but then accidentally died.With all the conspiracy theorists saying it’s all fake? Yeah, me too.
Absolutely right. They have massacred the English language. Nothing in the English language says thug is racist.
The MAGA support seemed to grow in strength the moment this really kicked off on Twitter.
Deepstate conspiracy theories,dems and CNN now getting the majority of blame.
Odd.
Deepstate conspiracy theories,dems and CNN now getting the majority of blame.
Odd.
Police are now shooting rubber bullets at obvious news crew...
Also this can’t be legal???
Media=Enemy of the people.
Trump's got 2nd term in the bag,convinced of it when this dies down.
He'll (comfortably) twist the narrative in his favour.
First thing that came to mind...
What movie is this from?
Hey guys! Wanna play fortnite for real?
This is funny but at the same time it’s sad because to them this is probably what it seems like. The little one looks no older than 11, I doubt any of them truly comprehend the magnitude of it all.
Another thing that just occurred to me, America would be the first ones to jump on their high horse to look down on Middle Eastern countries for deploying child soldiers and now look...
Exceptional technique!
That'll be an immortal gif, and in time, kids using it will have to be told it's real and not a graphic.
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As you say, the full report will be a lengthy document, so we're working off snippets here. All I would infer from those snippets is that he didn't have the bruising (+/_ cricoid damage) on his neck you'd associate with being strangled and (struggling to remember pathology lectures here!) I think you get pulmonary petechiae from asphixyation? Good point about carotid pressure, although it would have to be absolutely brutal to infarct his brain (and that would show up very clearly)
The mention of the co-morbidities would make me speculate that there might have been evidence of an MI? Although, if so, why not come out and say it? It's actually possible that the pathologist found this as the cause of death but wanted to hedge his bets by referencing the restraint and talking about underlying cardiac disease. Would have caused an absolute uproar if they gave cause of death as a heart attack, even if they also gave the appropriate context. In my opinion, if you violently restrain someone and he gets a heart attack due to this prolonged and unnecessary stress than that's as good as murder. Although many may not see it that way.
Feck knows really. We'll only work out what actually happened when the full report is released (including tox screen, even though I reckon that is a red herring)
EDIT: Basically, I doubt the content of the full report itself is politically motivated but choosing to release just that tiny section from within it almost certainly is.
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Im actually laughing at all this but i know i should be disgusted.
Edit to be clear, the child soldiers and subsequent posts
Edit to be clear, the child soldiers and subsequent posts
I'm only surprised that they haven't charged George Floyd yet...
Community. TV show.
Surely children can't be "deployed". Surely they can't act as a police force.
What the flying feck is going on there? Are those the redneck militias acting like the state now? I hope their parents and whoever put them their hang their head in shame for the rest of their lives. Cretins.
What the flying feck is going on there? Are those the redneck militias acting like the state now? I hope their parents and whoever put them their hang their head in shame for the rest of their lives. Cretins.
are those real guns on the kids ?
In 10 15 years time if/when they grow up to be racist, who do you blame?
The surroundings and influences on kids by their parents, adults and peers has to play a big part in these type of things?
The racists who raised them to be racists. I pull no punches, with the racists I mean: Their parents, the republican party, the NRA, Fox, AON, the entire military culture, the security and intelligence services and hundreds of other American "Institutions".
Absolutely
That and it could also give insight into things he may have said behind closed doors about certain people, things. Etc.
Edit: you might wanna remove the misleading tweet
I suppose that is why it's called a "dog whistle". Only certain people can hear it, to others it looks like a relatively innocent word.
We got us a winner folks!
Mel >>>Q<<< has a Kermit next to her name, of course the replies to her are going to be brain bustingly stupid.
Only thing I can figure, other than the other idea of attempting to frame the victim as at fault, is they were rushed to say something and it came out very poorly.
I think so. But theres no mag on them so they cant go all call of duty.
It's also not how languages work, particularly when it comes to pejorative terms. I mean, teapot, toad and other similar terms are racist within a certain context, pejorative terms are generally contextualized and the fact that not all of them enter mainstream vocabularies or remain regionalized doesn't mean that the language has been massacred. In general languages evolve and adapt to a particular context.