Protests following the killing of George Floyd

We should move past this. For feck’s sake, we’ve spent half this thread debating whether Atze was a racist poster and if Donald Trump is a racist dog whistler.

Atze is by some distance the scummiest poster on here. And I will take whatever sanction comes my way for that.

He clearly holds all kinds of racist views and dresses them up in flowery language to hide them. I'd much prefer if he just came out and said what he really thinks. Its why I preferred Aussie racism to British racism. At least the Aussies were racist to your face and you immediately knew where you stood.

I don't really know why the thug word got so much debate in the end tbh. Not because it isn't race baiting (imo it is) but because in this instance, who cares? Racist man posts something which can be racist to his followers, many of whom are are also racists.

Its all so heart breaking and it is even more heart breaking that you just know no real change will come out of it.
 
I’d be interested to hear her assessment of his character.

Aye, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s has presented a golden opportunity for her to get the hell out of that relationship.
 
The most frustrating thing here is that no matter how many riots or protests there are, everything will slowly go back to normal and more black people will lose their lives to racist cops on a power trip.
Things need to change, but the fact of the matter is with the current state of politics there is zero chance of that happening.
Sadly not an unlikely outcome, I agree.

But I think these kinds of protests/riots have to be done in any case. It seems like the only way to make any kind of impact on an intolerable situation for people who are otherwise powerless as scattered individuals. And with totally insufficient protection by and representation within the institutional system.

There's no guarantee at all it will lead to a change for the better. But if these people want to have any chance for a change, it goes like this imo. I can also imagine there's a feeling of empowerment and temporary release, after being forced to passively witness and endure these things for far too long. Bless them.
 
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A friend of mine posted this on social media. Pretty damn powerful and pretty damn sad at the same time.

I have privilege as a white person because I can do all of these things without thinking twice:
I can go birding (#ChristianCooper)
I can go jogging (#AmaudArbery)
I can relax in the comfort of my own home (#BothemSean and #AtatianaJefferson)
I can ask for help after being in a car crash (#JonathanFerrell and #RenishaMcBride)
I can have a cellphone (#StephonClark)
I can leave a party to get to safety (#JordanEdwards)
I can play loud music (#JordanDavis)
I can sell CDs (#AltonSterling)
I can sleep (#AiyanaJones)
I can walk from the corner store (#MikeBrown)
I can play cops and robbers (#TamirRice)
I can go to church or synagogue (#Charleston9)
I can walk home with Skittles (#TrayvonMartin)
I can hold a hair brush while leaving my own bachelor party (#SeanBell)
I can party on New Years (#OscarGrant)
I can get a normal traffic ticket (#SandraBland)
I can lawfully carry a weapon (#PhilandoCastile)
I can break down on a public road with car problems (#CoreyJones)
I can shop at Walmart (#JohnCrawford)
I can have a disabled vehicle (#TerrenceCrutcher)
I can read a book in my own car (#KeithScott)
I can be a 10yr old walking with our grandfather (#CliffordGlover)
I can decorate for a party (#ClaudeReese)
I can ask a cop a question (#RandyEvans)
I can cash a check in peace (#YvonneSmallwood)
I can take out my wallet (#AmadouDiallo)
I can run (#WalterScott)
I can breathe (#EricGarner)
I can live (#FreddieGray)
I CAN BE ARRESTED WITHOUT THE FEAR OF BEING MURDERED (#GeorgeFloyd)
White privilege is real. Take a minute to consider a Black person’s experience today. #BlackLivesMatter
So so sad this.
Would like to know how many of the perpetrators of this list actually got held accountable for these heinous acts.
 
Did you ban him for putting forward an opinion, or for attacking a poster? If it’s the former, that is shocking. People can be wrong and will be criticised. That is fine - he wasn’t being hateful.
You’re telling me to calm down? How white of you
As apposed to the many times you’ve been a dick on here. I don’t give a damn that you’re a moderator! You’re a thug that can’t accept counter points of view. Ban me bastard. feck this place
 


Thanks for posting the video. He speaks a lot of sense so eloquently.

This is not just an issue of the colour of a person's skin or pointing fingers in the direction of the USA. It is also very apparent in countries where minorities are treated inhumanely due to their religion, caste, status, etc... It's mental torture to be humiliated at airports, by the police, and authorities treating you with contempt even in the birth of your own country and I say this from personal experience. You need to live this daily to even realise the seriousness of the situation on your mental wellness.

So much of this is now ingrained in the psyche of people over time that it has become second nature to automatically make generalisations and point fingers. It is a massive problem around the world and its something the world needs to focus on more than many other issues affecting the world.
 
That's sad to see them act in a misguided way in terms of burning an American flag and defacing federal property. You don't fight crime with crime and that isn't rioting nor protesting, that's being juvenile and petty.

If it is a crime to burn the American flag then what a crackpot nation.

Its certainly symbolic of how a large part of America feels about the country right now.
 
:(

A 19 year old was killed while attending the protest in Detroit:
https://detroitnews.com/story/news/...rutality-after-george-floyd-death/5284855002/

The shooting occurred near Congress and Randolph when someone in a gray Dodge Durango fired shots into the crowd, hitting a 19-year-old, according to police. The shooter fled the scene; the victim was transported to the hospital, where he was pronounced dead, police said. Police said the circumstances surrounding the shooting are under investigation.

Oh , @Port Vale Devil has already mentioned it, I somehow missed it:
SUV turned up at started firing at protestors in Detroit (not police). Killing one person.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news...t-killed-during-protests-in-downtown-detroit/
 
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Did you ban him for putting forward an opinion, or for attacking a poster? If it’s the former, that is shocking. People can be wrong and will be criticised. That is fine - he wasn’t being hateful.

Well, you’re the one jumping to conclusions about something. That’s always a blast.

You have a strange definition of jumping to conclusions. You’ll see I quite clearly asked whether he had done anything more than put forward an opinion. Did I flatly dispute his banning? No. You could’ve said he had attacked people earlier and saved us both the trouble.

To be fair, i agree with @Carolina Red here. In the first part of your first post about the matter, you looked like you were jumping to conclusions or at least, the formulation of your post suggests that. You did not even wait for an answer to your first question before starting to give your opinion on one of the potential answers to that question.

You also finished your post by stating "That is fine - he wasn’t being hateful" before even having all the facts which is the definition of jumping to conclusions.
 
To be fair, i agree with @Carolina Red here. In your first post about the matter, you looked like you were jumping to conclusions or at least, the formulation of your post suggests that. You did not even wait for an answer to your first question before starting to give your opinion on one of the potential answers to that question. You could have just waited for an answer first.
Yeah I take your point. While I tried to acknowledged in my post that I'd possibly missed something, I accept that it could be read that way.

Edit: Though if you read my later posts, you'd see I was only discussing the worst case. I readily acknowledged I hadn't trawled through earlier posts.
 
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I was wondering if you'd read that statement and was wondering what your thoughts on it were.

Same as yours. The only really strange bit is about intoxicants. They would have sent off a blood sample so should have a definitive answer. If they’re waiting for a lab result, why mention intoxicants at all? Unless, maybe, there was a smell of alcohol off him? Either way, seems wrong to me to release details of an autopsy that isn’t complete.
 
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The more I watch the video the more pissed I get at the asian cop standing guard while his partner kills the man. If he isn't charged with anything, I hope he has to clean toilets for the rest of his life to make a living.
 


No EMTs checked him out on scene according to this.

It does look like other cops, can anyone confirm?


Those are Minneapolis EMS uniforms.

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No EMTs checked him out on scene according to this.

It does look like other cops, can anyone confirm?

Somebody in the comments said that IS the EMT's uniform, and the reason they wear vests is sometimes they are targeted or attacked in "high danger" zones.

I can only assume maybe because there was cameras filming and upset people around they decided to just get him in the ambulance ASAP and try to work on him in a private area. It all does seem a bit fishy though, the ambulance sure did turn up quickly? almost like they called him ahead of time, or they were there waiting to scoop him up once he had passed. It's just a really horrible situation.
 
Anyone watching this unfold and feeling angry and powerless about the situation please consider a contribution to one of the charities fighting this and similar causes. If you have a paypal account it's super easy at https://www.naacp.org/, donate at the top. It takes less than 3 minutes, and the smallest of amounts can help (obviously these are trying times for loads of people, only donate whatever you can spare).


I'm not a hugely charitable person the rest of the year but this shit makes me so fecking angry it feels good doing anything I can, even if it's just a tiny contribution.
 
Those are Minneapolis EMS uniforms.

fb531f-20200423-ems-vehicle-parade-05.jpg
Somebody in the comments said that IS the EMT's uniform, and the reason they wear vests is sometimes they are targeted or attacked in "high danger" zones.

I can only assume maybe because there was cameras filming and upset people around they decided to just get him in the ambulance ASAP and try to work on him in a private area. It all does seem a bit fishy though, the ambulance sure did turn up quickly? almost like they called him ahead of time, or they were there waiting to scoop him up once he had passed. It's just a really horrible situation.
Clears that up..I wasnt sure and didnt want to jump to conclusions
 
The more I watch the video the more pissed I get at the asian cop standing guard while his partner kills the man. If he isn't charged with anything, I hope he has to clean toilets for the rest of his life to make a living.

Like I said in an earlier post, the officers complicit to these acts, like the ones present while this happened, should face just as severe consequences. They should be fired and barred from ever serving in police forces again.
 


No EMTs checked him out on scene according to this.

It does look like other cops, can anyone confirm?

Made the mistake of starting to read the comments on that 2nd video.
 
As apposed to the many times you’ve been a dick on here. I don’t give a damn that you’re a moderator! You’re a thug that can’t accept counter points of view. Ban me bastard. feck this place

Where did all this come from? Carolina Red is one of the soundest mods on here