Who’d want to be a cop in any poor area of the USA where guns are the norm. Race doesn’t matter when it comes to pulling a weapon on a cop. I fully understand why the Police are on edge. Some of the are just cnuts and shouldn’t be in any of position of authority and should be weeded out of the force. But that will take time and support for whistle blowers.
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Who’d want to be a cop in any poor area of the USA where guns are the norm. Race doesn’t matter when it comes to pulling a weapon on a cop. I fully understand why the Police are on edge. Some of the are just cnuts and shouldn’t be in any of position of authority and should be weeded out of the force. But that will take time and support for whistle blowers.
For all the perceived danger is there a really big number of cops being killed by criminals?
From what i gather on pop culture killing cops is a big no no all over the world. Bad for business.
If I'm a cop what made me feel brave should be the reality of having the biggest baddest organization behind me, not how big my gun is.
Cop is like a mafia made men, everyone can kill em but nobody would and could getaway with it.
From what i gather on pop culture killing cops is a big no no all over the world. Bad for business.
If I'm a cop what made me feel brave should be the reality of having the biggest baddest organization behind me, not how big my gun is.
Cop is like a mafia made men, everyone can kill em but nobody would and could getaway with it.
I do think there needs to be a dual approach - if people want a demilitarized police then it would seem logical that civilians should not be able to buy (practically) military weapons
that said if the school shootings have not been enough to convince the USA its necessary to disarm (as happened in the UK and Australia) then im not sure anything will and whilst people can buy AR15's its logical the police are going to have at least comparable firepower
Its a shit show basically and Im so glad i left the states years ago
And yet, driver workers/delivery drivers have a more dangerous job than police with even worse pay.
I don't like this general point. Delivery drivers don't fear for their life everytime they make a delivery. Cops in the US are probably always wondering if the perp is armed or not whatever the interaction.
I don't think I'll ever believe the US will give up their guns, irrespective of what the general public thinks or the Amendment states, or what murderous atrocities are committed with them. It is a multi-multi-billion dollar industry. That's the bottom line. Money > life is proven time and time again, so unless there is recompense, the status quo will remain.
If you think of how much money guns bring in to the coffers of a multitude of industries (the manufacture chains) directly, and the multitude of beneficiaries off the back of shootings (law, police, jails, hospitals, funeral parlours etc. etc.) and the government from the tax off all of the aforementioned, the notion of change is pleasant idealism with absolutely no grounds in reality.
If you think of how much money guns bring in to the coffers of a multitude of industries (the manufacture chains) directly, and the multitude of beneficiaries off the back of shootings (law, police, jails, hospitals, funeral parlours etc. etc.) and the government from the tax off all of the aforementioned, the notion of change is pleasant idealism with absolutely no grounds in reality.
Coleman on the situation we're in regarding racism, police, etc. Listening to him one wouldn't belive him to be only 24.
Well worth a listen whatever "side" one takes on these matters
I don't understand. What are you trying to say?
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Exactly. If the delivery driver deaths were mainly due to being shot by the people they’re delivering to I reckon we’d all find them a hell of a lot more suspicious and less friendly when we answer the door!
Against my better judgement I did read these. The first one in particular.
He starts off with pointing out that lynchings have mostly been eliminated and that should be celebrated.
He then looks at the disparities between African American descendants of slaves, and immigrant Africans from the Caribbean/Africa post Jim Crow, and uses that to imply the differences are due to culture. Let's ignore that most immigrants are the cream of the crop of their places of origin and pass that along to their children. Let's ignore that said recent immigrants, while still subject to overt racism, don't have do deal with the ongoing impact of 400 years of slavery and Jim Crow till today.
He throws in a comment about Obama telling black people to be better parents. Let's ignore that the president at the time stupidly made this comment at Morehouse University to a group of black men graduates, who were obviously doing something right up to that point. Let's also ignore the fact that actual data shows that a white man with no degree has a better chance of getting a job than a black man with a degree.
You know how the Republicans like to think their side of climate change denialism is intellectually equivalent to the other side that believes climate change is real and it is driven by human activity? You, and Coleman and John are Republicans. Nice try with the "both sides" trick though.
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I'm a coward and it's late, so don't dare say much here. But, overt racism?
Is quit possible you're right about the last point there. I don't know. Got a link?
You dismissing me is fine. I'm in no way exceptional. Dismissing Coleman and McWhorter goes to show reason is out the window on this one. Btw, just saying "FU" would've saved you typing all that out
Half the civilian guns in the hands of just 50 million Americans, and they live in poverty under a tyrannical government.
Ignoring that... rates of black gun ownership are low. White males are far more likely to own and carry a gun... but never seem to get dead as much.
Priti Patel calls Jeremy Corbyn's politics 'racist' in House of Commons
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ir-starmer-house-commons-labour-a9567256.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ir-starmer-house-commons-labour-a9567256.html
Dismissing stuff from people you agree with means reason is out of the window, brilliant.
Yeah, pardon me for being non-plussed at the idea of black people not being lynched by white mobs anymore. Police still lynch, but I mean, you take what you can get right?
Don't be scared.
Yeah. As in, open racism.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
Nah I wanted to give you and John and Coleman the benefit of the doubt. It was wasted on them for sure but maybe you aren't beyond saving
feck's sake, did she not read Niall's post?? He bloody stickied it and everything.
Stick her back in the newbies.
Do the current government actually have anyone in their ranks who wouldn't be unsuitable? Reese Mogg probably only realised black people exist last weekend.
Although to be fair the first sentence can basically apply to anything this current government is supposed to do.
It's a crazy amount. Tyrannical, really? Belive you're right on the black/white gun ownership. Don't understand the last part.
I must have misunderstood. Did I misread him? Apologies if so.
I believe there is data that supports the notion that more whites Americans are killed in police interactions than blacks, but that's an overall number. My understanding is that on a per capita basis it swings negatively in favour of African Americans.
That behind a paywall, right? Take a look tomorrow/another day
Rado is questioning the logic of reason being "out the window" just because someone dismisses two people you happen to agree with.
Ha, yeah. I misread RadoN it looks like. It was more the pseudo republican comparison that led to that remark
File under “failed to read the room”: one of the best college football players in the nation is boycotting the program because the Head Coach publicly supports OAN. The guy has a mullet, so I guess it’s not a surprise he’s tone deaf on this.
Can someone explain this?
That guy, Mike Grundy, who is a coach of Oklahoma State, was wearing a t-shirt with OAN (a far-right TV channel) on, and so one of the players, Chuba Hubbard, is "not doing anything" to do with the school because of it.
Is this not a bit over the top?
I mean he hasnt done anything wrong here has he?
He's insinuating he's Racist because kg the tv channel he watches?
Where do you draw the line?
A host on OAN called BLM a criminal organization and is publicly embraced by Trump. By proxy, he is dismissing a major black rights movement. He should know better than to do that as a public figure and leader of dozens of young black men.
Before OAN.
It's not just a TV channel, it's a network that pushes ridiculous conspiracy theories and lies - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network
John Oliver did a video about it recently, but it's blocked so I can't watch it. It might be available to you though
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So everyone should comply with a tax-payer funded police officer giving illegal orders, thereby normalizing an illegal behavior? This is absurd reasoning and plain wrong.
Maybe the same way they approach dangerous situations in affluent neighborhoods? Secondly, I literally pointed you to the most comprehensive literature on the subject. It's your decision to read it or not.
Again see the above. If you asking for a surface level blog post or youtube video I can't help you b/c that isn't normally where I get my sources from. I wish I had the time to pull up all of the sources in the books I've read but I don't. But I pointed you in the right direction if you actually care enough.
Seems somewhat biased? Because you may not agree with her politics? Look at her credentials and actually read her book. I'm not even sure what points you are trying to make without even reading the literature. Mindboggling the lengths people go to hold on to preconceived beliefs.
It's not over the top at all. He is directly involved with many black kids yet he chooses to wear that t.shirt . It's dumb beyond words . I think someone will be losing his job fairly soon