Land of the free.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Land of the free.
As long as your white.
Means absolutely nothing now. These people are bending over backwards contradicting themselves daily and it doesn't even matter. Accountability is just gone.
As long as you're on the right.
And it's partisanism more than hypocrisy, most seem to assume their allegiance.
Perhaps he thought if he told them his wife was pregnant they may have shown a bit of empathy and compassion or is that too much to ask?
Well. Yes I am. Nobody should be ashamed of where they come from or their colour. I am feeling ashamed at the moment.Your white what?
Where are all the human rights organisations, that are always quick to speak out when violent government behaviour happens in non-Western countries? Why is the EU not reacting fiercely to the blatant oppression and disregard for basic human rights in the US?
The world has to start sanctions against USA for its' systemic racism, oppression and exploitation of human beings, both domestically and on foreign lands.
The world has to start sanctions against USA for its' systemic racism, oppression and exploitation of human beings, both domestically and on foreign lands.
@Sassy Colin was right about cyclists after all.
What I keep seeing in these videos of a complete lack of public order skills from the police. What are they trying to achieve? There's no clear objective i.e. clearing a street or area. It's just widespread beating of pockets of protesters. I see very few shield tactics, or even shields being used, just batons. It's bizarre and really dangerous as without any clear objectives and leadership you end up with people swinging batons wildly with zero idea of what they are doing. Total out of control red mist. I thought the US was better trained and more professional than this but it seems that they revert to cracking a nut with a sledgehammer in everything they do.
It's on the front of Amnesty International website.
Me too, and I was also only joking.
blood coming out of his ear on the floor
Police are now arresting people for doing their job. It was also confirmed in the replies that in the State of New York, food delivery workers are indeed allowed to deliver during curfew.
That lunatic was so fired up he hit one of his fellow officers in the head.
I know.
I just find this really worrying. It happens over and over again and nothing is done and while Trump is in power these sort of incidents will go on and on.He has a point about governments not speaking out though.
Because the human aspect of it has never really mattered and its always been about supply chains and money for them. If anyone not speaking out against racism is somewhat responsible then anyone using oil products has the same charge for the violence in the Middle East by the same sentiment (and I'm included in this).
As much as systematic racism is very much a thing, systematic indoctrination in the fact that violence is normal in the non Western world is a thing too. Media would have us believe that a bus full of Yemeni kids being bombed by our premier oil suppliers is 'normal'.
Edit: meant government instead of media
Don't want to piss off the 'The Good Old US of A do they'?
Governments aren't going to speak out when their own people are currently accusing them of the same thing. French or british governments for example better shut up and fix their own problems. And in general governments are biased they have allies and won't turn against them, it's a naive if not ridiculous to expect them to somehow comment impartial on everything, they never do even when it concerns non-western countries.
I see that John Barnes is trending on Twitter (disclaimer: I haven't yet read his views). The fact that every Black person is deemed by many to be a spokesperson on race, and to hold valid opinions about little else, says everything. It's patronising at best, almost as if we're 'graciously' allowing them to have their two-minute platform...
Of course the UK police are so restrained when they get into a mob with their mates.
Which means all these Western leaders and politicians are a bunch of hypocrites and greedy twats. That's not new to me, but I hope more people start seeing the truth.
And your point is?
People have never not seen the truth and never pretended that western leaders weren't a bunch of hypocrites or twats. I generally ignore this nonsense that you post, when you somehow believe that people in the "west" are idiots or blind, you do realize that people have and have always openly criticized their own countries. Your constant propangada agains the west and pro Russia is not smart, not subtle and tiring.
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I don't think there is one. It's just a really poor post.
My point, though it clearly wasn't very well made, is that to see the police act in this way is not new or surprising. Whether that be in the US, Uk or many other nations.
Yeah, that's BS. Minority of people have spoken out in the past, the majority obviously don't give a feck about how rotten to the core their system is.
If you think I'm talking nonsense, stop replying to me or put me on ignore. But your accusations towards me have no grounds and are beneath you as a serious and intelligent poster.
Right. Not sure why you're making that point to me in such an abrasive fashion.
Inviting another barrage of bullets towards his pregnant wife/girlfriend was the better option then?
Why do you think politicians lose elections around here and aren't in power for decades? Why do you think people protest every weeks for a variety of causes? Do you actually know anyone in France or the UK and what they think about their politicians?
People are perfectly aware of the system, you are not some sort of genius and you clearly have no clue about what people think in the west.
I was simply seeking to highlight that while it may be down to a lack of training and professionalism, this type of behaviour has been seen far too often for my liking, when you consider the responsibilities of the role they are employed to fulfill.
Yes, I've seen the blatant disregard in France for human rights when people are protesting. I've seen the corrupt party system in the UK, the two parties being basically the 2 sides of the same coin, just as in the US.
I've seen Angela Merkel being in power for 15+ years in Germany. I've seen the outrage and the public speeches given when similar atrocities as in the US were happening elsewhere, so much condemnation, pointing fingers and destroying whole nations because of the Western leaders hypocrisy and greedy nature. Where are those leaders now, to talk about one of the most unjust and oppressive systems in the history of humankind?
Ermmm yeah I don't think you were seeking to highlight very much in the several words you posted. You know that though I'm sure.
I've already conceded it wasn't a great post. My point is still valid though, no?
People need to accept they are deliberately instigating violence in order to come down harder on protesters who are trying to draw attention to police brutality.
Their goal is NOT to calm things down or clear the streets. They have been given all this expensive military equipment for a reason and they intend on using it. Police executing citizens is what caused this reaction. They aren't comfortable with the prospect of being held accountable for the people they assault, kill or abuse and are fighting against that.
Don't move the goalpost, you claimed that people in the west weren't aware of who were their politicians. For some reason you think that people don't see the truth or aren't continuously complaining about it. Your only goal here was to do what you do in most threads which is a generic criticism of the west and everything linked to it.
Human rights organizations have criticized the US for their behavior regarding racism, their treatment of the press and police brutality. Citizens in the west have criticized their own governments, the US and everyone in between and they have done so for decades.
The inconvenient truth isn't police brutality, but the ignorant of the western society even when they know it's under their nose.
The people that matter did nothing to stop this, pretends none of this ever happen, and worse endorse these kinds of things, and probably a large number of them even taking pleasure in doing it.
The people that matter did nothing to stop this, pretends none of this ever happen, and worse endorse these kinds of things, and probably a large number of them even taking pleasure in doing it.