How is it not?
Protest planned before Norwich game
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That just means you have no power then, we are not that important because vwe are easily replaceable.
You don't think the main reason for the lack of trophies is the absolute mismanagement of the club by the Glazers?
Seriously? Aside from it being their club, none of it is true.
They only take money out, they don't put any in.
I don't have an issue with fans complaining about poor performances either, I have an issue with fans lacking a spine and acting as if it was for something more noble when it's not. Assume that you want success and can't support the idea of supporting a lesser club, most of the fanbase is made of gloryhunters including locals just embrace it and lambast the players, managers and owners when you feel like it. As long as you don't do what Marseille fans have done in the past and try to burn Carrington, I won't complain about protests.
We should take it further and attack their American hand-egg franchise.
Why should anyone care if you are unhappy with it?
I do.
So whom do the fans sit down with and have rational dialogue? Is Joel going to have a powwow outside the stadium?
Protests are happening as we’ve thus far had a lot of broken promises from the last protests. Now we’re getting the expected distraction technique of ohhh look a new stadium, to try and placate us.
Peaceful protests need to go ahead, call em out on their lies, as they don’t do face to face dialogue and need to be put in an awkward situation.
They have spent about as much as you would expect United to spend, they have gotten players and managers that fans were raving about on these forums.
The problem seems to be they focus on the fans too much, and should pretty much ignore them.
I’ve been going to the game since 1995 when my dad first took me. I now go on my own to every game. I despise the glazers and what they’ve done to our club. It knocks me sick that they’ve ruined the club that I fell in love with as a child. But when it comes to these protests I really lack the motivation. The glazers won’t sell because a few thousand fans don’t enter the stadium on time, they won’t sell if we riot, they won’t sell if we ask them nicely in a boardroom. They will continue to milk the cash cow until it dies and through tears I say there is absolutely nothing we can do about it
Protests are mostly symbolic, why the hot takes calling them useless. They don't take anything away from anyone either. If you don't want to join, nobody is making you. Does moaning about it make you feel proper mature?
I was joking as they've basically made the same post 4 or 5 times with the words rearranged.
The glaziers out protest is pointless , a few fans lighting a few flares and singing won’t change that neither will walking in 17 minutes late will do. The tickets are already paid for and OT will never be boycotted as they are some many tourists travelling someone will take the seat . And then of course protesting because we are having a rubbish season. If we were top of the league would we be protesting today ?
I would be on board with letting the players know what we think of them though. Overpaid overrated soft clowns .
I would be on board with letting the players know what we think of them though. Overpaid overrated soft clowns .
There is some friction still there and a frustration from MUST on the lack of clarity or fulfillment I believe.
The message I think is the lack of investment into the club. That doesnt mean hard figures on transfer but more the way its allocated. And the fact that our stadium is worn, our womens team ignored, our training facilities needing revamping, our general status as a global attraction for talent falling.
Fair xd
I will support the protests today. Most United fans agree the Glazers have run the club very poorly. I genuinely don’t understand the criticism of fans who want to voice their discontent.
The whole attitude of “it won’t change anything” is so defeatist and apathetic. Maybe it won’t, but I’d never knock anyone for trying to create a change. It’s not just about today though. The only way any change could happen is with sustained pressure and a much bigger movement. That would have to start somewhere.
The whole attitude of “it won’t change anything” is so defeatist and apathetic. Maybe it won’t, but I’d never knock anyone for trying to create a change. It’s not just about today though. The only way any change could happen is with sustained pressure and a much bigger movement. That would have to start somewhere.
Can you expand?
You need leverage to be able to sit down and talk to the Glazers like that. This actually happened after the last protests, only because the protests were so visible. Sit down and listen to us or we will get the game cancelled.
Having a massive list of demands as a joint fan base is never going to happen. The fact is, all we want is for the club to be run competently by someone. If the Glazers do that then your issue with the women’s team is solved.
The fans seem to have a lot of self importance, they seem to think they matter way more than they do.
Well isn’t that one of the main reasons for protest. The Glazers treat the fans like an after thought. If you think all is well then fair play to you.
The people saying protests won't change anything are part of the problem.
It's that attitude of apathy the Glazers are banking on.
It's that attitude of apathy the Glazers are banking on.
It's the reality though, unless they can't sell their tickets, this is pointless.
From the initial £660 million they saddled us with, the club (not the owners) have paid back £1.5 billion, yet we still have £500 million of the initial debt still to be paid back.
There should be protests surrounding Old Trafford and not a foot set inside the stadium until these parasitic cnuts are driven out on that basis alone.
I know about milking the cow, good debt, bad debt etc, but there's nothing you can say to convince me these are great businessmen. How do you spend £1.5 billion in 17 years in repayments alone and still have the majority of the initial debt left over?
They're vampires, chancers and they need to feck off the leeching bastards.
There should be protests surrounding Old Trafford and not a foot set inside the stadium until these parasitic cnuts are driven out on that basis alone.
I know about milking the cow, good debt, bad debt etc, but there's nothing you can say to convince me these are great businessmen. How do you spend £1.5 billion in 17 years in repayments alone and still have the majority of the initial debt left over?
They're vampires, chancers and they need to feck off the leeching bastards.
So 100m every year for 15 year? Where do you get the number from
I guess the Glazer will not even hear about it, but even if they do, they won't care at all and I can understand that.
Protesting missing just 17 minutes of the game? You've given them money anyway.
Protesting missing just 17 minutes of the game? You've given them money anyway.
Yes especially when a lot of tourist get tickets, we have people coming over from all over the world just to see United play live. We need the fans in America to go and protest outside one of there nfl games.
Are you saying you don't know how much their buyout has cost the club?
That could explain why you don't think they're a problem.
Sky doing a bit of coverage on the protest. Good stuff. Hope it gets a bit of traction today.
Pretty tame so far, like a parade.
Not 100% sure these figures are true, and they probably ignore that the value of the club has sky rocketed too.
However, it is hard to make a case for defending them overall.
He is Joel Glazer
Fair play to everyone protesting. I didn’t think they’d get this many numbers, I was wrong. I still think there needs to be a strong message of what is actually wanted rather than just a generic ‘change’.
Bahahahahaha.
Good waste of their time, anyway.
Good waste of their time, anyway.
Can’t question the timing. There was always going to be a protest at the landmark 16 year and 9 month anniversary of the takeover
Hold on. They are now entering the stadium at 1-0 to watch the rest of the game and cheer the team? 