Proposal to ban X.com links

[POLL] Should we ban Twitter embedding from this site?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes - but only if we have Bluesky embedding

  • Undecided


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I’ve seen this in a few different places and I guess a middle ground is to just block links to Twitter but for the content (such as transfer news) just allow screenshots of the Tweets (and not direct links).
 
Yeah ban it for me place is a cesspit. I've held on to my account for years despite never posting, but that can go as well
 
I’ve seen this in a few different places and I guess a middle ground is to just block links to Twitter but for the content (such as transfer news) just allow screenshots of the Tweets (and not direct links).
I think the intention is rather to go cold turkey. That's how we can in turn (try to/hope to) convince others to switch to BlueSky as well. Cause as long as we keep seeing their content anyway (through screenshots, text quotes, or whatever), X actually keeps being a useful outlet.
 
No doubt we'd survive, the only things that could kill the caf are XenForo going under or Niall accidentally spilling a glass of water.
And we have moved software a number of times over the years. I'm also hoping that as a good Irishman Nall never drinks water.
 
Can we come up with some practical steps to avoid X?

1. If it's a news story post a link to the website not a tweet
2. If it's a picture, copy the picture url and embed it on the caf (not sure if this counts as avoidance as X is hosting the image)
3. If it's a text tweet - screenshot it.
4. Transfer tweets under tier 2 don't need to be posted

The only problem is video, it would be a pain to download and reupload it elsewhere.
I've found deleting my Twitter account and simply never reading anything posted on twitter (like transfer tweets), is easy. Who needs that nonsense anyway?
 
Can we come up with some practical steps to avoid X?

1. If it's a news story post a link to the website not a tweet
2. If it's a picture, copy the picture url and embed it on the caf (not sure if this counts as avoidance as X is hosting the image)
3. If it's a text tweet - screenshot it.
4. Transfer tweets under tier 2 don't need to be posted

The only problem is video, it would be a pain to download and reupload it elsewhere.
not into X = wont reply
 
I had it for about 3 weeks and it was so horrible I deleted it. And the best part is I didnt even venture into politics stuff, it was mostly football and it was all about people arguing and saying all sort of stuff, like a daycare but a horrible one. Given its run by a Nazi supporter I'm all for banning it.
 
This place is basically marxcafe, no way he'd want to own it
If that was true, every post would be an essay long, with things like formulas that convert the value xG to the value of km ran to explain the exchange value of transfer fees, and long drawn sarcastic critiques of double pivots and inverted wingbacks. Caf isn’t ready for that.
 
He probably owns it by accident. He doesn't know it, but if one of us told him.... Well, it would go from MarxCafe to MuskCafe in an instant!

RedCafe being owned by a fascist and Liverpool supporter is peak 2025 stuff.
I really don't want a brown banner at the top of the page :(
 
Should probably be banned from everywhere.

Just so this nonsense of news reports saying, "such and such posted this on X, the website formerly known as twitter".

On here I feel like the last 2 days every football thread has just been embedded tweets by the same 2 or 3 posters.
 
It would make no difference to Twitter so pointless to ban it on here.

The ban has gone across a lot of places. Half of Reddit seems to have done it which is where this came from. The more people who do this sort of thing, the more other people will do it.
 
As someone who isn’t on any social media , Twitter , Facebook or Instagram I do find the tweets on here useful for getting up to date United news so I’ve voted no but if there’s another source just as good as Twitter for up to date news then I could be persuaded to change vote !
 
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On a slightly different note, have we ever considered (also) banning posts that contain simply tweets and nothing else? Surely mandating at least a short comment alongside a tweet would encourage better conversation?
 
Hard yes. Apart from it being an utter cesspit, which is completely undebatable, some users will never realise that you need an account to see threads and replies, so when they post something and write something like YOU WON'T BELIEVE this thread/reply they are leaving hundreds or thousands of Caf users out of the joke, and they may even be creating the "need" for some of these users to sign up, thus indirectly giving more users to that utter scumbag of an owner.
 
We know about that but we have server issues which mean it legitimately isn't straightforward on here or going to happen any time soon. And it isn't an excuse. The admin team and ownership are united in our view on the site's twitter future.
Those Musk owned servers are a real pain
 
I'd miss the transfer tweets but it's the right thing to do. Ban it.
I agree and worried about the transfer tweets, which are one of the first things I look at everyday, but decided not knowing immediately which player is likely to join BVB or Napoli isn't such a big deal and any United transfers will quickly provoke a thread anyway.
 
Yes, it's obviously the right thing to do, also a lot of you could do with being weened off all the transfer bullshit.
 
This is absolutely absurd. Twitter is a useful source of info. Why make our lives worse? Should we not import oil from the Middle East because we don't like the leaders?
 
This is absolutely absurd. Twitter is a useful source of info. Why make our lives worse? Should we not import oil from the Middle East because we don't like the leaders?

I don't know what's a parody post or not anymore.
 
Yeah it is the right thing to do and now is the right time to do it. It might also give me the kick up the arse needed to delete my account and the app for good as well.

Personally not bothered about transfer tweets but I do now that I've become addicted to doom scrolling on that site and I swear the algorithm now is such that when you actually stop to read some of this right wing bullshit you just end up getting fed more and more of it.

This is absolutely absurd. Twitter is a useful source of info. Why make our lives worse? Should we not import oil from the Middle East because we don't like the leaders?

I mean yeah, there is some level of hypocrisy to pretty much everything we do in life but at what point do we take a stand? The billionaire owner just threw up a Nazi salute twice at a Presidential Inauguration and I'd question it now being a useful source of info. You can still find some reasoned voices on there but they are becoming increasingly drowned out.
 
BlueSky is a petty good platform

I'm sure something could be done with their "lists" function to get new users up to speed as well as adding football influencers to your feed.

Their tech team is also very approachable
 
I'd keep the tweets for the rest of this transfer window at least, then revisit it ahead of the summer window.

If all the journos have ditched X for other platforms, then follow them there.
 
Yes, it's obviously the right thing to do, also a lot of you could do with being weened off all the transfer bullshit.

There was a tweet posted in the Garnacho thread yesterday which literally said “there was a meeting earlier with Chelsea* and agents. Something happened”.

How will we cope without this kind of update?

* think it was Chelsea, can’t be arsed checking.
 
One with '18' is hardly in a position to ask that. Spiderman meme appropriate!
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I agree and worried about the transfer tweets, which are one of the first things I look at everyday, but decided not knowing immediately which player is likely to join BVB or Napoli isn't such a big deal and any United transfers will quickly provoke a thread anyway.
I'm sure most of us remember when rumors started with a thread with a Manchester Evening News link or the like. I don't think we missed discussing a transfer back then either (well I mostly lurked, but still).
 
I’ve seen this in a few different places and I guess a middle ground is to just block links to Twitter but for the content (such as transfer news) just allow screenshots of the Tweets (and not direct links).

I like this a lot. Is this what the poll means by Bluesky?
 
I left Twitter when Musk took over after having been a user for many years. It had clearly become a bit of a cesspool but still had some great content and was useful to follow particular individuals. I tried avoiding the worst of the algorithm but inevitably you got exposed to the filth when trying to follow a news story. The Musk takeover and the sacking of thousands of people within Twitter who were already fighting a losing battle on the moderation side was the final straw for me.

I tried using Mastadon for a short while and it was a pleasant experience....not being exposed to an algorithm...only getting messages from those you had followed...it felt like the early days of twitter again. However it was ultimately too static, didn't have enough new content and just served as a useful way to wean myself off that type of social media.

Since then twitter has clearly become way more toxic and Musk has become an actual threat to the world. I don't want to give him any hits /traffic at all if possible. If there is another platform option that can give us the funny videos and transfer speculation that I see in Redcafe threads then absolutely we should switch Twitter links off. If there isn't an immediately obvious replacement then I think we should still switch it off. It's not so great a sacrifice and might make us seek out primary sources (not behind paywalls) for news, gossip and hilarity like we had to do before twitter came along.

[Steps onto gate made of dial-up modems] "You know I can remember when this whole area used to be text based webpages!"
 
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100% in favour of a twitter ban regardless of whether we can embed bsky posts or not.

When I joined the caf we didn't have transfer tweets, let alone embedded transfer tweets. I don't come here for news, I come here for the company of other (sometimes) sane Utd fans, plus a handful of lovely non-Utd fans. I value the discussion, the shared joy and misery (more of the latter recently), the characters, and (most of) the opinions.

But part of all of the above is feeling that we have some basic shared values as a community - and being opposed to fascists feels like the absolute simplest and most basic value possible.
 
I don’t care. I’m not on social media, I think it is the death of humanity, Twitter being the absolute arseend of the internet. Musk is also a reprehensible cretin. I’d previously believed he was just a rich idiot, but now it seems he may be more sinister than just that. Feck him.
I’m sure whatever the community decides, the modmins will implement in a way that benefits forum users, I just really don’t have strong feelings on this either way.
 
I like this a lot. Is this what the poll means by Bluesky?
No, Bluesky is a social media platform that's similar in interface/appearance to Twitter, but it's a lot more decentralised and isn't owned (yet) by an obnoxious American billionaire. It was pretty dead until the US election but since then there's been a wave of people (including lots of football journalists and some clubs) from Twitter to Bluesky
 
I understand why people want to ban it, but there are plenty of organisations and people on the platform that talk about important stuff. It is STILL the biggest news aggregation platform on the planet, and I think banning it helps, not hinders musk in reshaping the conversation.

I think banning musk tweets as being useful, because there is little of value in anything he does, it is all deliberate. The only question is, does he mean it or is he trolling. The answer to that is mostly irrrelevant, because his followers always think he means it. But the platform? I think there is still useful information there.
 
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