You implied it, dont even pretend thats what you arent hinting at. Unless i completely misunderstod you and you want sky to focus on how well they have done witb their scouting and all thatWhere have I said they were cheating? Seriously, where have I said that? All I said was their meteoric rise deserves scrutiny.
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I wouldn't have minded if he changed it a little, but he abandoned it soon after that. Later he admimtted that the game "taught him lessons" about English football. Fair to say his thinking changed.
I thought it should have been Mata Rooney RvP (drop Falcao) at the top of the diamond, and Carrick (not Blind) at the base.
AdM and Herrera were spectacular in their roles, Herrera was great offensively and defensively.
For bigger games we could have Herrera at #10, AdM as wide striker, Carrick at the base and Blind and Valencia in the L/RCM positions. (drop Mata and one of Rooney/RvP for Blind and Valencia)
I had it all planned out
You can't expect a team with a majority of new players to be perfect, I wish he had given them some time. With senior defenders returning (no need to rely on Evans and Blackett), it would have been much better.
LvG after the game publicly blamed Rafael, but he did literally nothing wrong. Apart from getting fouled and then being punished for Vardy's dive. The damage Leicester did happened down our left, with Blackett being terribly exposed.
You've lost me. Where did I say they were cheating??? Please stop accusing me of that.
Surely no chance that'll happen, but it would be bloody hilarious if it did.
You're all about to watch a show from this season's Champions. Enjoy.
Didn't catch the Leicester match, was the refereeing really as bad as it was being made out to be?
No idea.
Some just appear quite bitter at their success, and seem determined to discredit it. Which was the point of my main original criticism.
I said their dramatic change in performance deserves scrutiny. That could be from a change in training methods, diet, recovery anything. Never ever once did I say they were cheating. The fact that you have gotten there suggests to me you have some doubts yourself!
We are probably in a once in a lifetime position that if we are not winning the league then at least we don't have to witness one of our rivals or a big / half big aka Spurs / rich team winning it, and some ppl are more concerned about what Vardy did against us last season in a game which made no difference to our final league position?
Van Gaal simply didnt rate Rafael. Even when he came back from injury he was benched for months for Valencia and Mcnair.
Its too simplistic to assume that just one game changed everything. Van Gaal had the chance to see him play multiple times over the rest of the season. That theory isn't really true either when you consider than Rafael started the next two games after Leicester.
But a Vardy conspiracy makes for a better story. Continue as you were then. Maybe that makes you feel so better.
That's great.Feck me, that's is one of the bitterest posts I have ever read.
Well done.
So do you mean that sky should focus on how well they have done with their scouting, and team management and spirit? If so im not sure how that is a negative against them? The way you said it before largely implied that you thought it was very sketchy the way they went bottom to top and should be investigated or something. Apologies if i misunderstood you but I'm not sure I did
You misunderstood. Read the two links I posted above. Thats the kind of scrutiny I'm talking about. I'd love it if Sky actually analysed this rise like the way both of those articles do. Instead they banged on about a fairytale all morning.
Naah, it's mostly cuz Vardy is a diving thundercnut.
I replied to those points above. He himself pointed to that game as a turning point.
And why has it become a "conspiracy"? I never suggested anything suspicious about it
That would be Tottenham. Leicester are actually 8th for distance covered in the latest article I could find from last month.
This is the very reason for pretending
I read the other day they have run more than Tottenham, will try and dig out the link.
Fair enough.This is the very reason for pretending
Palace are there to make up the numbers.
Hmm it seems hard to find the stats, but the one I referenced was this although I didn't realise it only accounts for 2016 so it's a limited sample size.
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-01/...e-distance-covered-by-team-per-match-in-2016/
Tbf I do have doubts about Kante because it's hard to believe someone can run that much but I don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt anyway! But yeah it would be interesting for Sky to analyze that more, though not in a negative sense, as they have had a brilliant turnaround and its not just luck.
Yeah stats are all over the place, I think I read an article about Vardy/Mahrez out-running everyone. This is a good source too, http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/ea-sports-ppi-club-ranking.html.
LCFC are far from 8th!
He played him in three games after that. Everton,West Ham and Chelsea. He got injured. Valencia took his chance and that was it.I replied to those points above. He himself pointed to that game as a turning point.
And why has it become a "conspiracy"? I never suggested anything suspicious about it
No Vardy anything.
Its not just luck I agree. But I suppose what I am getting at is this idea of a 'fairytale' is a very romantic notion. Seems to me LCFC's rise has been down to much more than romance, its their management (on and off the pitch), their training methods and whole business of sports science. That is what I mean by scrutiny. A team from a lower tier of English football getting to an FA Cup final is a fairytale. Leicester are top of the richest league in the world where clubs financial resources are growing at a ferocious rate year on year. That is a huge part of the story behind the rise of LCFC. But of course Sky are never going to scrutinise that, they prefer to talk to viewers like we are all morons. I feel its very disingenuous to expect intelligent people to swallow this story as being a 'fairytale'.
Arsenal are soothing to watch when on song.
Edit: not for their supporters
Edit: not for their supporters
That PPI includes many things I believe. After a bit of digging the best I could find on distance covered is this from February but it includes the whole season up to that point.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-fuelling-their-Premier-League-title-bid.html
The lack of injuries is the craziest thing imo. Although according to injury league Swansea have been the least injury hit team by a long way. Somehow they've still been shit despite that.
Presuming you're trying to highlight the supposedly suspicious aspects of Leicester, the first one hardly helps your point considering it reaffirms their settled side, good buys, and manager etc.
I think we can both agree Leicester and Spurs are fitter and running more than any of the other teams in the league. Just goes to show what good old fashioned hard work can achieve.
They work with Mapei Sports in Italy. I'd really like to know how they've kept them in such good shape tbh, for the simple reason that maybe their methods could be used by other clubs - most notably ours - since our players seem to be made of glass.
arse trying to beat us in the possession stakes.
Leicester are more about organisation than pure running I think, the best evidence is that they sit somewhere around 7-8th in terms of distance covered. But hard work definitely. The mental concentration, organisation and running at the right times is something we could do with.
What 'supposedly suspicious' aspects of Leicester? And what exactly do you think my point is?
Just to make it crystal clear to you - my point I'd like a more rigorous analysis of LCFC's rise - as opposed to the platitudes that its a 'fairytale'.
The reason I posted both links is because they get into real detail about LCFC - one on the footballing side and one on the business side.
I think they are an interesting read for anyone like me who wants to go deeper than the 'fairytale'. For those of you happy to swallow that yarn, stick with Sky!
Exactly! Hence my interest in 'closer scrutiny' of LCFC.
But it is. There's plenty of tactical analysis out there regarding Leicester, as has been shown. But for advertising and briefly talking about big games, people don't have time to go into that. I'm not really sure what you're actually trying to argue here.
Arsenal better smash these. I need Sanchez to save my Fantasy team!
They've not been hampered by other competitions like the players in most other top sides, and have presumably had plenty of luck with injuries as well. I'm not sure there's much in it beyond that.
I'm not trying to argue anything. Why does it have to be an argument?
I guess at the core of what I'm saying is I hate Sky!
Which is fine. I don't see what that has to do with not liking Leicester, though.
Yep we're always, always near the top of the fecking injury table. Norwich, Leicester and especially Swansea are clearly doing something right:
