Premier League Matchday 4 (Sep 9-11)

mayurr said:
Yes mane hit him on the face , but the GK is outside the D, he knows he can not hand the ball only way he could stop is by heading it and at the speed i dont know it was a right decision by the GK. He is outside His box, ball bouncing in at good speed, a player chasing it and what he is doing is trying go head it our. By this logic there could be 10 red cards each game if keepers start running in to the player and put their head on the line.
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Don't agree. Neither player can use their hand though so the GK point is completely mute. If it were two players going for the ball like that in the centre circle and one caught him with a high boot it'd still be a red card.
 
mayurr said:
Yes mane hit him on the face , but the GK is outside the D, he knows he can not hand the ball only way he could stop is by heading it and at the speed i dont know it was a right decision by the GK. He is outside His box, ball bouncing in at good speed, a player chasing it and what he is doing is trying go head it our. By this logic there could be 10 red cards each game if keepers start running in to the player and put their head on the line.
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If an outfield player kicked another outfield player in the head, with a very high foot, anywhere on the pitch, it should be a red.

Goalkeeper in or out of his box is irrelevant.
 
credit to city. they've doubled up on TAA and Klavan the obvious weak links and with the quality they have it always spelled trouble.

Karius on for Mignolet
Sturridge for Gini.

bring AOC on later.
 
mayurr said:
Yes mane hit him on the face , but the GK is outside the D, he knows he can not hand the ball only way he could stop is by heading it and at the speed i dont know it was a right decision by the GK. He is outside His box, ball bouncing in at good speed, a player chasing it and what he is doing is trying go head it our. By this logic there could be 10 red cards each game if keepers start running in to the player and put their head on the line.
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What? The keeper has the right to head the ball just like any other player.
 
How many times does Kolo Toure say "really really" there? :lol:

Kolo%20Toure
 
mayurr said:
Yes mane hit him on the face , but the GK is outside the D, he knows he can not hand the ball only way he could stop is by heading it and at the speed i dont know it was a right decision by the GK. He is outside His box, ball bouncing in at good speed, a player chasing it and what he is doing is running in putting his head on the line to head it out. By this logic there could be 10 red cards each game if keepers start running in to the player and put their head on the line.
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:lol: Sure.
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Ederson is out of his area, he has to use his head. Mane is trying to knick the ball before he gets there, Ederson can see him going up with his foot yet still continues to charge and go for the header.

No red card.
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The refs got a clear view, player leading with his foot at head height, clear red, no debate.
 
Not sure why Mane Red crad is controversial? Nani got sent off vs Madrid for less a few seasons back, knocking SAF out of his last CL competition.
 
Think Mane was putting his name forward for a fight with Connor McGregor.
 
Slevs said:
It shouldn't matter if he's a goalkeeper or not, you can't kick someone in the face with your studs.
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Below waist, you can, if you're going for the ball and he drops his head.:p
 
At least Carragher and Toure know what's what.
 
Well, that was probably the worst possible outcome of that first half. Down 2-0 and our best player sent off and a ban coming. Ffs..
 
Liver_bird said:
credit to city. they've doubled up on TAA and Klavan the obvious weak links and with the quality they have it always spelled trouble.

Karius on for Mignolet
Sturridge for Gini.

bring AOC on later.
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You were very much in the game before the red card and City a bit lucky to be ahead.
 
Clattenburg on Norwegian TV means that it should be a fk and yellow.
 
Rob said:
Well, that was probably the worst possible outcome of that first half. Down 2-0 and our best player sent off and a ban coming. Ffs..
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At least that's a way Coutinho gets back in the team quickly.
 
mayurr said:
By this logic there could be 10 red cards each game if keepers start running in to the player and put their head on the line.
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As long as 10 players suddenly decide it is a good idea to do their best Enter The Dragon impression every game.
 
themoyesboy said:
Just a reminder goal difference and goals scored can be worth an extra point on the league table.
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I think all United fans remember that :/
But if a Mourinho team wins the league, chances are it won't be on points difference :)
 
diarm said:
Anyway, game ruined by that. Wonder how many of the adament keyboard warriors were arguing the other way for Nani a few years ago?
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Exactly. It's not as clear cut as it seems, but you can see why it was given. The contact to Ederson's face was the nail in the coffin. I think that challenge if it happens in midfield is probably a yellow card.

Did Nani make contact with the Madrid player in that challenge?
 
Rob said:
Well, that was probably the worst possible outcome of that first half. Down 2-0 and our best player sent off and a ban coming. Ffs..
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Classic fine margins isn't it. One min it's 1-0 and Salah is through for a fairly good chance, and missed.

Then your by far best player does that, and this game is completely over, and he's out for 3 matches.

He might need to look at his style of play though. 7 career red cards for a winger is incredible.
 
diarm said:
I've already said it was the correct call so not sure what argument you're trying to have?

I'm just saying it's not as black and white, good and evil, right and wrong as some of you are making it out to be.

When each player set off there, Mane looked to be favourite. He slowed down, eyes on the ball and looked to bring it down.

Ederson came in at a million miles an hour and got there first. If Mane touches the ball a split second before and Ederson plows into him it's a totally different conversation.

I know it's important to ensure player safety but it's my opinion that if a keeper can fly in with his head at a hundred miles an hour that far outside the box, he bears some of the responsibility as well.

Either we totally ban touching the ball with your foot above chest height regardless of whether or not someone's head is nearby, or we show some leniency to a player attempting to bring the ball down who gets beaten to it by an opponent.

When Zlatan or Berbatov or somebody else takes the ball down exactly as Mane was attempting to do right there we all say what great touch it is. Then when another player flies in from miles away it's suddenly a red. Needs to be every time or never.

Anyway, game ruined by that. Wonder how many of the adament keyboard warriors were arguing the other way for Nani a few years ago?
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Nani's was completely different, he didn't stud the guys face for a start!
 
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