FA D FA Cup 4th Round

Cambridge United 0:0 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Fri, 23 January 2015

We seem to be more conservative as a team than we were way back under Dave Sexton. At least he kept the wingers out on the flanks, we just seem so pedestrian and lacking width to break teams down. We need to play with wingers rather than wing backs. It isn't helping us at all asking them to be our outlets, especially when they aren't specialists in the position.
 
Some people have really short memories.

Well to be fair if you compare the line ups you use to the one that played tonight then tonight is worse. 2 of the games you link we nearly had reserve squads and squad players playing and 1 of them we won!

Tonight was just dreadful, it's not even the result it's the fact we're so tedious and dull to watch. Football at the end of the day is about entertainment and for me we're anything but entertaining to watch.
 
They had 11 men behind the ball every time we attacked. The pitch was horrendous, the weather appalling and it was a typical FA Cup match where they throw everything they have into every challenge to make it as difficult as possible to play. We weren't good but it's really not that big a shock.

We'll beat them 6-0 at Old Trafford with the extra space, there's no way they will be able to be as compact or cover as much ground as they did today on their matchbox pitch.

Well said, the over reaction here is
incredulous!!
 
We were the culprits tonight. Did nothing to move the ball around. Confined ourselves to passing backwards and sideways as we've done for the past several games. Front line was completely static leaving a void between them and Carrick and the back 3. Flank attacks were better on the left and completely shite on the right given it was Fellaini (bizarrely so) and Valencia.

This game's an example of our general malaise. Louis needs to take the rap for not correcting our greatest flaws, and that's off the ball movement. Nobody tries to play it through the middle, or draw defenders off to make space and create opportunities to play meaningful incisive passing. He and we have certainly seen enough games to know what's wrong. The amount of chances we're creating is absolutely abysmal and unbecoming of a team trying to challenge for the title and play in Europe.
 
I'm just trying to show that having big name players doesn't mean one team should instantly be able to beat another team. Southampton are above us not because they have £250M worth of players, but because they know what they're doing, like Cambridge did today.
Again, as everyone here would agree, it's because we have been poor and not because they are that good. That's the whole point of why people are getting mad.
 
The excuses are on another level. Keep deluding yourself though.

He has a good point. How is United expected to win if the other team won't just let United win? And how can United cope with the fact that the match is played outside and on grass?
 
LVG is a clueless prick who has no idea how to cope with the aggressive, physical, fast pace of English football. Tactics all wrong, performance dire, typical, and predictable.

We're going nowhere under him.
Breathe in, hold for 10 seconds, blow out through mouth. Repeat 10 times.

There, feel better.

Now don't hold back let us know what you think.
 
Typical FA Cup tie.

Happy to have another fixture if I'm honest and made up for them too.
Me too.

Though we were a bit embarrassing - should have been able to break them down. But it's a funny old game.
 
The pitch was the biggest problem, the ball bobbling around scared our players half to death so there was no pace to anything we did, just slow plodding build up because no one could dribble with it or judge a pass properly. Crap but whatever, its not the end of the world.
 
My highlights:

The Cambridge player blocking two of their shots on the line.
Herrera MUST have made an impression on LVG's mind. It's also conclusive proof he exists

Em.

I just started laughing at Jones, so that was funny I guess.
I got promoted during the match, which is nice.

FA Cup match against OT that we should win, should score a few goals at home. More minutes for Januzaj etc?
 
That's clearly where you stopped reading, because the rest of the sentence referred to the context of English football.

Tell me, which other club in the English league has he managed and had a stormer?
Give him a little time.
 
One positive! Another game.. A lot of our players needs more games. Rafael, Shaw, Januzaj needs game time and Valdes will probably start against them. ;)
 
is tying against Cambridge the lowest of the low of our history?

Of course not. We have drawn with conference sides before like Burton and Exeter 0-0 both away and at home in the last decade in the FA Cup and been knocked out by lower league teams like Bournemouth.

It was a poor performance but we will win the replay.
 
Again, kept good possession, but it seems that we struggle to break teams down when they defend with eleven men behind the ball. We were just too slow in possession, which allows teams to move across the pitch with ease.

Also, has anyone else noticed that our centre midfielders played way too high up the pitch today? This isn't the first time this has happened, therefore, i'm led to believe this is a tactic by Van Gaal, but I honestly can't see the benefits of it. It leaves our centre backs and holding midfielder isolated, thus playing long balls, often resulting in losing it. If we do lose it, because our midielders are so high up, teams find it easy to counter us. Lastly, surely teams that are defending deep prefer this as they just have to basically mark our players, instead of being dragged out of position.

Second half it got a bit better. Van Gaal made a good tactical chance and it seems that he told Januzaj to stay wide, in order to stretch a compact Cambridge side. At times, it did work and Januzaj was able to get the ball into the box, but unfortunately didn't fall to any of our players.

This is to be expected when they come to Old Trafford, therefore, I feel we need to go with width on both sides, which should hopefully stretch Cambridge, meaning there should be more room in the middle.

Didn't play particularly well tonight, but what we need to remember is that we're still in the tie, and with the replay at Old Trafford (although on paper we should have won tonight) we should be winning and progressing through to the next round.
 
Of course not. We have drawn with conference sides before like Burton and Exeter 0-0 both away and at home in the last decade in the FA Cup and been knocked out by lower league teams like Bournemouth.

It was a poor performance but we will win the replay.
With a second/third string mix lineups.

I'll keep pointing that out because it has to be said really.
 
I think the worst thing is that I'm no longer surprised at United failing to win away from home.
 
The pitch was the biggest problem, the ball bobbling around scared our players half to death so there was no pace to anything we did, just slow plodding build up because no one could dribble with it or judge a pass properly. Crap but whatever, its not the end of the world.

We are paying those 11 players about £2 million a week collectively. I'd expect them to handle a shit pitch better than they did tonight.
 
We've seen this type of performance from United before. It is troubling this time because the torrid play we saw today has been present in many games this season.

Not panicking at all, but LVG needs to pull his head out his ass and utilize his personnel correctly
He's been trying since we played Queens Park Raisins apparently but getting a grip on that Brylcream'd Just For Men Barnet is not easy when his arse is constantly twitching!
 
:lol::lol::lol: You only have to laugh. As I'm on a performance based job, if I was churning out what these guys were, then I would have been out longgg ago. And I would have done it for a tenth of their price too!
 
With a second/third string mix lineups.

I'll keep pointing that out because it has to be said really.

We got knocked out against Bournemouth with a first choice team and they were in the old second division.

We left out Rooney, RVP, Mata and Shaw out tonight so also rested and rotated players. Either way does it really matter. This is hardly the worst result or performance in the club's history, it's happened a few times in the last decade so it's not even unprecented. Why do people have to be so melodramatic?
 
They had 11 men behind the ball every time we attacked. The pitch was horrendous, the weather appalling and it was a typical FA Cup match where they throw everything they have into every challenge to make it as difficult as possible to play. We weren't good but it's really not that big a shock.

We'll beat them 6-0 at Old Trafford with the extra space, there's no way they will be able to be as compact or cover as much ground as they did today on their matchbox pitch.

They had 11 men behind the ball because we literally stopped attacking, turned around then passed the ball backwards. We actually forced them to have 11 men behind the ball by playing the ball back in front of all of them.
 
We got knocked out against Bournemouth with a first choice team and they were in the old second division.

We left out Rooney, RVP, Mata and Shaw out tonight so also rested and rotated players. Either way does it really matter. This is hardly the worst result or performance in the club's history, it's happened a few times in the last decade so it's not even unprecented. Why do people have to be so melodramatic?
Because technically, it hasn't exactly happened like you say.
Why are people so eager to sweep it under the rug? One might also ask.
Why should LVG be beyond criticism?
 
Blame van Gaal all you like, but for eleven Manchester United players fail to beat Cambridge is completely unacceptable, regardless of system and tactics.
 
I'm not appalled, but our performance was disappointing. We can blame the pitch, the rain, the ball or whatever, but this one can't be blamed on the manager. We had vastly greater quality of talent, yet could barely bother their keeper.
 
Some of our players and most of our fans need to realise football isn't just about having XI better players and showing up.

Cambridge defended okay, the weather was sh*t, the pitch was a minefield and things didn't drop our way. It's hardly the first or last time there'll be a match like that in the FA Cup.

Matches like this are always bizarre, and sometimes you just need a moment of magic or luck to make the breakthrough. Didn't happen today, but if we play like that OT we'll annihilate them.
 

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Score Predictions

551,22,14
  • Man Utd win
  • Cambridge win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 33% Cambridge 0:3 Man Utd
  • 17% Cambridge 0:4 Man Utd
  • 15% Cambridge 0:2 Man Utd
  • 11% Cambridge 0:5 Man Utd
  • 6% Cambridge 1:3 Man Utd
  • 4% Cambridge 1:4 Man Utd
  • 3% Cambridge 1:2 Man Utd
  • 2% Cambridge 0:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Cambridge 0:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Cambridge 1:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Cambridge 2:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Cambridge 1:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Cambridge 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Cambridge 5:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Cambridge 2:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 4:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 3:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 2:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 4:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 3:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Cambridge 3:3 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Cambridge
  2. Man Utd
Possession
25% 75%
Shots
5 16
Shots on Target
0 6
Corners
4 7
Fouls
6 13

Referee

Chris Foy