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Manchester United 1:3 Brighton & Hove Albion

Post-match discussion


Sun, 19 January 2025

The combined outlay of 270m on Antony, Mount, Casemiro and Hojlund. Wow, that will set us back years to say the least. I hear commentators going on and on about effort & desire. While that's all great to hear, it's not just that. There is a clear gulf in talent between us and most Premier league teams. Every team has 2-3 players who look like they can walk into our squad, no questions asked.
 
Well my last post was one of full support for Amorim, and that does remain the case, but that was truly awful again today. Have to be honest, I left when the third goal went in, but so did thousands of others.

No movement, horrible system, no pace, no quality. They were a far better team, with far better players.

Hang the Glazers and Woodward. Make ETH watch.
Now you talking my language
 
How have we ended up with so many players who lack in technical ability, but are also slow weak and with no fight in them? Squad mismanagement on an epic scale.
 
Would be more depressing if it wasn't expected.

Absolute shit from all involved, all the talk after Liverpool and Arsenal and then you look at the crap that's been served up the last 2 games since. Bunch of game raising twats.
 
It’s a 2 - 1 game compounded by an individual error. Reality of the situation is we’re about level in ability with the teams from 8th - 15th so a lot of these matches are going to be decided by fine margins.
For me. Onana was at fault for the second goal too. That crossed ball was hanging in the air long enough in no mans land, for Onana to come and claim the ball.
 
Feck you Ed Woodward.
Could have just used that feck you money we had and gotten in an experienced DOF to run the operation while he looked after the commercial side.
Instead he played real life FM, wasting over a billion pounds on mercenaries and outright shite.
He has set this club back decades and every single day I think about it it pisses me off.
 
Nothing against Bruno as a player generally, but he's a problem in this system.We will never get better with him. If we are going to back Ruben then we need players that can execute for him in this system. Some will say that's a bad idea but if we don't give him what he needs we will fail. We can't accommodate anyone anymore. We need specialists and system players otherwise Ruben is sacked by October. That's the sad reality.
 
The combined outlay of 270m on Antony, Mount, Casemiro and Hojlund. Wow, that will set us back years to say the least. I hear commentators going on and on about effort & desire. While that's all great to hear, it's not just that. There is a clear gulf in talent between us and most Premier league teams. Every team has 2-3 players who look like they can walk into our squad, no questions asked.
And they all have players who can walk THROUGH our squad.
 
22 games in and only 7 won. Shocking.

So a 1 in 3 win rate, 16 games left. Problem is I don’t see where this team is getting 15 points. Next 5 games - I’m struggling to see us get anymore than 4
 
Could have just used that feck you money we had and gotten in an experienced DOF to run the operation while he looked after the commercial side.
Instead he played real life FM, wasting over a billion pounds on mercenaries and outright shite.
He has set this club back decades and every single day I think about it it pisses me off.

I don’t blame Woodward as much as the Glazers. We all play fantasy FM everyday on this forum. I blame those above him who allowed it to persist for so long.

Similar to a super talented chef creating Michelin Star dishes, but has zero ability to run a kitchen.
 
When we were in our pomp, the only irritation we had to put up with was those relegation threatened teams in the league raising their games against us. Often getting a draw or unlikely win. We’d berate them, talking about how annoyed their manager must be that they can’t play like that every week.

We are now those game raising cnuts.
 
We have to accept that at this moment in time, Brighton are simply a better team than us and an overall better run club.
The big concern is that Brighton were average by their own standards today. Their pressing wasn’t there and they only created 6 shots all game.. not on target, just shots.

Onana just isn’t up to it. He can’t command his box, he’s shit on crosses, average at shot stopping and slows out defensive passing down. He’s one of the biggest downgrades in premier league history and 50m to top it off.

He was dodgy at Ajax, dodgy at Inter and now he’s dodgy at us.
 
We are in a really bad position with only 26 points from 22 games, in order to avoid relegation you need to reach at least 40 points which means we need 14 from our last 16 games but with the the fixtures weve got left and the way we are playing I cant really see us getting those points
 
We are in a really bad position with only 26 points from 22 games, in order to avoid relegation you need to reach at least 40 points which means we need 14 from our last 16 games but with the the fixtures weve got left and the way we are playing I cant really see us getting those points
I think we are incredibly lucky that there are enough teams below us who also won’t get many points
 
For me. Onana was at fault for the second goal too. That crossed ball was hanging in the air long enough in no mans land, for Onana to come and claim the ball.
Mazraoui main player at fault. Was weak when he should have cleared ball and man. Was poor for the opening goal also.
 
We are in a really bad position with only 26 points from 22 games, in order to avoid relegation you need to reach at least 40 points which means we need 14 from our last 16 games but with the the fixtures weve got left and the way we are playing I cant really see us getting those points
Ipswich or Leicester are going to get 39 or 40 points? Last season the bottom three got 26.24 and 16 points. This season will likely match that if not worse.
 
Mazraoui main player at fault. Was weak when he should have cleared ball and man. Was poor for the opening goal also.
Can't disagree, but I think that even if Onana had come for that cross and flapped at it then it might have been enough to put Mitoma off. Instead he watched it all the way onto his foot, pretty much unchallenged
 
Brighton dick us every time I swear. Even when we do get a result it's lucky as feck (Penalties, penalty kick after fulltime)
 


This is seriously getting aggravating. What the hell is actually going on? Closer to a red than to not being a freekick.
 
I don't think we need to overcomplicate this.
Yes we are underperforming but Brighton have about 6 players that would start for us, including Welbeck.
Until that changes, we aren't going anywhere.
 
Well there were signs in the So'ton game. Then came our nemesis Brighton and the result was as expected.

Amorim unable to get this team seem even semi decent is a major worry. All the not enough training excuses is draining fast, in the face of relegation form we are in. Amorim is clearly struggling to inspire this team. And clearly, he is not going to have a new XI anytime in near future.

Large part of the blame can still be put on the past regime. Wasting money on poor players like Onana and Antony and then loads of money thrown at players who are either not good enough or always injured. It's a big mess that would need years to clean up, that is if Ineos would do it. Still lot of question marks on what they would do or are willing to do.

I am tired. Just like Amorim seems to be.
 
Can't disagree, but I think that even if Onana had come for that cross and flapped at it then it might have been enough to put Mitoma off. Instead he watched it all the way onto his foot, pretty much unchallenged

Minteh should never have been allowed to make the cross as Dalot should have dealt with the danger instead of just standing there doing nothing
 
I don't think we need to overcomplicate this.
Yes we are underperforming but Brighton have about 6 players that would start for us, including Welbeck.
Until that changes, we aren't going anywhere.
We have spent 110m on two strikers who are worse than Welbeck.
 
Maybe we won't get relegated this season, no thanks to us. It might not be1973-74 all over again but I can tell you as someone who was there and hardly missed a game, home or away, this is beginning to feel uncannily like 1972-73. A poor squad of players and a misplaced sense of entitlement that "We're Man Utd, we're too good to go down."

At the end of that horrible season everyone breathed a sigh of relief. "We nearly got relegated but in the end it all worked out OK. We'll be much better next season"....yeah, right.
Yes, sadly I remember that time all too well and you are right.
 
We are currently a basket case of a club where our highest earners are either frozen out completely, bench players or totally unreliable as their injury proneness would make Darren Anderton look like an indestructible granite man.

We have no true wing backs to play the system we want to play, and it is highly imperative that we need them.

Our frontline is not only the worst United frontline certainly in my lifetime, but also one of the worst in the league this season.

2024/25 will go down as the stillborn season to me. Dead before it even began. Keeping ETH was the equivalent of taking a shotgun and kneecapping ourselves. I dare say it’s a worse decision than replacing Ferguson with Moyes.

With games like this, I think it’s better to just go do something else to take your mind off this abomination.
 
How the feck is that not a red card. fecking incompetent referees.
The referee was a Scouser, Peter Bankes. Yes, we were dreadful again today, but a red card in the first half would have changed the game. The ref didn't even give us a free kick for that! And the VAR was Craig Pawson, another shocking referee.
 

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Score Predictions

96,43,22
  • Man Utd win
  • Brighton win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 40% Man Utd 2:1 Brighton
  • 13% Man Utd 1:2 Brighton
  • 10% Man Utd 2:0 Brighton
  • 7% Man Utd 1:1 Brighton
  • 6% Man Utd 2:2 Brighton
  • 5% Man Utd 0:2 Brighton
  • 5% Man Utd 1:3 Brighton
  • 4% Man Utd 1:0 Brighton
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 Brighton
  • 2% Man Utd 0:3 Brighton
  • 2% Man Utd 3:1 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 2:3 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 3:3 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 Brighton
  • 1% Man Utd 4:2 Brighton
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Brighton
Overall possession
51.2% 48.8%
Shots
10 6
Shots on target
1 3
Total touches in the box
28 26
Fouls
13 12
Corners
4 2

Referee

Peter Bankes