What the feck? So random and also wrong.
PL D FA Premier League
Manchester United 1:1 Arsenal
Post-match discussion
Sun, 09 March 2025
He is the best MF in a team that could'nt beat the worst Man Utd team in history on two occasions now?
He is a slightly better version of McT. That's about it.
Salah also couldn't beat the worst United team in PL history, glorified Depay?
I wasn't aware that we drew twice with Liverpool this season ? I do recall a 3-0 drubbing.
Rice is no where close to Salah. One is genuinely world class. Other is a product of hype.
Palace as well?
The one thing that annoys me at times is if we get a good result the pundits analise the game to death as to why the other team dropped points rather than we picked up points.
All I would like to know is why VAR didn't inform the referee when there was a blatant dive by Lewis Skelly with De Ligt nearby when he awarded a free kick in dangerous area? Give ball back to United and a yellow for the offender. Why is this so hard? Why is VAR so inconsistent?
Rice is a quality player. Not £100m worth but he is easily one of the best DMs in the league.
Its how these things work. Look at any Liverpool game and Liverpool never "lose" they always gift the game. The opposition is never credited with stopping them playing or even outplaying them, its always about how below par Liverpool were. How wasteful they were. Liverpool were absolutely schooled by PSG. Nothing to do with Liverpool being poor. They were just fundamentally outplayed.
Same with United. If we win a game it wasn't due to our efforts, it was the opposition being poor.
God knows. I understand it not getting involved in soft free kicks because thats a can of worms but a verifiable dive should immediately be relayed to the ref to give a card. If they scored from that free kick it would have stood and yet any goal from open play can be taken back a long time to disallow for fouls, offsides etc. Makes no sense.
A single post describing someone's posts as 'shitty'?! Completely understand some kind of punishment might be due there - and happy to take it on the chin - but a permanent thread ban seems a little harsh.
Thanks for responding and pointing me in the direction of the admin forum - I'll raise it there.
Deserved to win. Very good game overall.
Yes I agree it beggars belief. Also there was one stamp on Garnacho from that cnut Gabriel. Also not reviewed.
I personally think the longer he's been at Arsenal, the more average he's looked. First season I thought he was unbelievable but looking at his stats this season his passing is worse (he's trying way more long balls that don't work) his per 90 is basically down for everything that matters, tackles, tackles won, goals, interceptions, take ons, touches, carries; the more direct Arsenal have become the more normal a player he looks in my opinion.
He's won more headers though, so there's that I guess.
Like two games against Man Utd is the measure of Arsenal, to say nothing of individual players on Arsenal. And Rice is pretty much everything McTominay isn't, in addition to pretty much everything he is.
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VAR never gets involved in that sort of incident. It is definitely consistent on that.
Yeah, that's kind of the point......
Thread bans are normally for repeated posts that are overly argumentative, abusive, derailing etc in a thread, rather than a single one. Certainly your last three posts in there were confrontational -I don't have time right now to go back further- so will be a cumulative thing. You can always try and make a case to the mod that warned you too.
That was a good performance, which we would have deserved to win. Some thoughts:
- Our attacking game has been looking a bit improved the last few games, hasn't it?
- That's two consecutive good performances from Casemiro. It's been a while since he played at such a relatively good level. Not like two season ago, but at least good enough to actually contribute something and not be a liability.
- De Ligt also above his customary level lately
- Bruno should get a lot of credit for his performances lately - he's been back to the level we expect from him
- Zirkzee followed a really good game against RS with a quite poor one here. Maybe that's the position. He's not doing much better with the holdups than Højlund.
- Garnacho really good - first time in a good while.
- I thought Lindelof handled the central position well, with really consistently good positioning. And another impressive cameo by Heaven, he seems further ahead than I'd expected.
- On the flip side, Dalot is a continuing disappointment, and Eriksen really did not get much done.
- Our attacking game has been looking a bit improved the last few games, hasn't it?
- That's two consecutive good performances from Casemiro. It's been a while since he played at such a relatively good level. Not like two season ago, but at least good enough to actually contribute something and not be a liability.
- De Ligt also above his customary level lately
- Bruno should get a lot of credit for his performances lately - he's been back to the level we expect from him
- Zirkzee followed a really good game against RS with a quite poor one here. Maybe that's the position. He's not doing much better with the holdups than Højlund.
- Garnacho really good - first time in a good while.
- I thought Lindelof handled the central position well, with really consistently good positioning. And another impressive cameo by Heaven, he seems further ahead than I'd expected.
- On the flip side, Dalot is a continuing disappointment, and Eriksen really did not get much done.
Two games against Man Utd, a terrible Euro campaign and an average campaign as the would-be premier league champions. This is the measure of Rice.
Someone posted the stats of Rice vs McT on this forum before he joined Arsenal. They were virtually identical.
If you have media shills singing the praises of a player non-stop, eventually the fans "group- think" deems the player a world beater.
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Before and after Bruno' FK
Solskjaer's Spiral Curls
Date: Doesn’t matter.
Kickoff: Doesn't matter.
Referee: Doesn't matter.
Venue: Theatre of Dreams
Man Red FC
United’s injury list is longer than Arsenal’s premier league drought. Lisandro Martínez, Mason Mount, Luke Shaw, Amad Diallo, Kobbie Mainoo, Toby Collyer, Altay Bayındır, Jonny Evans and Chido Obi ruled out. Harry Maguire doubtful.
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Doesn't matter. Lego Tets will play Merino upfront probably.
FINAL SCORE PREDICTION
United 4-0 Arsenal.
Donkai Haverts red card. Man United counter-attack like prime 2008 Ronaldo is still here with Zirkzee scoring a hat-trick. Bruno Fernandes penalty to seal the fourth against you. Ramsdale dives the wrong way, does he still play for you (or Raya)? Who gives a **** to be honest, end the season.
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Before and after Bruno' FK
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Really? Couldn't dominate an absolutely terrible man united defense? Almost 0 influence from midfield.
Good thing Rice played no role whatsoever in Arsenal beating us 2-0 earlier this season then
@Jippy I didn't get a warning as far as I'm aware?
Not much. It was the jumping jacks scoring headers.
Better result and performance than expected. In the end it was a little disappointing not to get the win considering the chances in the 2nd half.
Couple of decent results in the last few days, progression on Thursday turns that into a good week.
Couple of decent results in the last few days, progression on Thursday turns that into a good week.
Good game and performance from the squad! We even dominate the match at times. We would have won if not for the freak goal by Rice.
You had one on Feb 17 I can see. You should be able to see it if you click on your name and account in the top right of the screen.
Didn’t watch the game but seen the result at FT and watched the highlights last night. Looked a very entertaining game. We didn’t really create much 1st half but Bruno’s freekick was brilliant although Raya’s standing position leaves a lot to be desired about, his standing position gave him so much of the target to aim at. 2nd half and both teams were going for it to win the game. They scored a well worked equaliser through Rice. Who on Earth was supposed to be marking him?! Mazraoui had some great chances to win it for us and that chance right at the death for us was incredible on how it never went in.
Also, when we pretty much shut down Fulham, who came into the match as one of the most in form sides in the Prem, it's always because Fulham were shit, and not because We shut them down, or Amorim set us up well etc, and the same with Sociedad. We seem to always have trouble with Spanish sides, yet, when we pretty much shut them down as well. It's because Sociedad is shit, and not because we made them look like shit. Maybe L'Arse really didn't have a decent chance outside of their goal because of Amorim's work with our side and how we shut them down.
I personally feel these last three matches are showing something more and are boding well for Amorim and United. Obviously, we continue missing golden opportunities and have a massive striker problem, but recently we've been set up quite well and the oppo are not getting on to us as before. This is how turn arounds begin, with baby steps. Hopefully.
Just had Sky Sports News on and they are still showing this mornings debate about where the freekick should have been taken from. If it was from the wrong place that is Anthony Taylor's fault, but it always feels like they use it to have a dig at us, that we always benefit from luck, when this season we have been on the other end of it to be honest.
100%. Really poor first touch to not move it away from Rice and then, like most times, he takes too long.
For once we made some really good chances, but found Raya in top form... some keeper.
Most of the first half best forgotten, except for the last 5 minutes. Second half both teams had chances but ours were foiled by a brilliant keeper, where as Onana only had a few saves to make, mostly average ones. For once the operation of wing-backs seemed to work for us, Maz was outstanding.
Garnacho, made some excellent runs and crosses, but our two centre men were lacking, with Zirkzee doing marginally better.
Both Rasmus and Zirkzee need a bit more body strength or to use what they have better than they do, both regularly got muscled out' of things, as my old man use to say they need to 'work their elbows' a bit more.
Also thought de ligt, Casemiro and Ayden Heaven worth a mention in dispatches.
Good result, could have been better except for Raya.
Most of the first half best forgotten, except for the last 5 minutes. Second half both teams had chances but ours were foiled by a brilliant keeper, where as Onana only had a few saves to make, mostly average ones. For once the operation of wing-backs seemed to work for us, Maz was outstanding.
Garnacho, made some excellent runs and crosses, but our two centre men were lacking, with Zirkzee doing marginally better.
Both Rasmus and Zirkzee need a bit more body strength or to use what they have better than they do, both regularly got muscled out' of things, as my old man use to say they need to 'work their elbows' a bit more.
Also thought de ligt, Casemiro and Ayden Heaven worth a mention in dispatches.
Good result, could have been better except for Raya.
Honestly dude, I have not received a warning (unless it's hiding somewhere that I can't find?) - which is why it came as quite a surprise to suddenly be banned. At first I assumed it was maybe a 24 hr ban or something, but obviously not. There's nothing I can see when I click on my name/account either? How exactly would I be notified of a warning, where would I find it?
If only Bruno was in mazaroui position for that volley and it probably goes 2-0
On incident in the 2nd half when Garnacho broke free on the right and sent a ball low across their 6-yard box. Zikzee was watching him making the run, saw the space, but didn't arrive for the ball until it had gone past him. It was infuriating.
Did they mention that Arsenal also had a free kick, where the wall was more than 10 yards away?
Had to let myself cool down a little before posting. That first half was the most pathetic half from a United team I can remember. I'm sure there have been worse that I've blocked out of my mind but it was so limp. Lost almost every single 50/50 (hell, we lost a bunch where we were probably 80/20 to come away with the ball). Basically lost all or didn't even compete for second and third balls. I was appalled at what that collection of players was doing to the badge. Improved after the goal and had a decent second half. But my word. The only word for it is pathetic. I hope that Amorim gets time to re-shape the squad.
Possibly. Bruno might also have done the same thing though.
It's one of those things. Sometimes the exact same shot goes in. I think we're a bit quick to detract from the quality of the save and the difficulty of the shot.
The shot was pretty much at the keeper wasn’t it? I remember Bruno’s volley against rangers. Maybe the angle was different so it was easier to place it in the corner.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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27%
Noussair Mazraoui
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8%
Alejandro Garnacho
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5%
Matthijs de Ligt
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3%
Ayden Heaven
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2%
Casemiro
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1%
Victor Lindelof
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1%
Joshua Zirkzee
Player Ratings
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Compiled from 223 ratings.
Score Predictions
27,107,24
- Man Utd win
- Arsenal win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 22% Man Utd 0:2 Arsenal
- 13% Man Utd 0:3 Arsenal
- 11% Man Utd 1:1 Arsenal
- 11% Man Utd 1:3 Arsenal
- 9% Man Utd 1:2 Arsenal
- 7% Man Utd 2:1 Arsenal
- 4% Man Utd 0:4 Arsenal
- 3% Man Utd 2:0 Arsenal
- 3% Man Utd 1:4 Arsenal
- 2% Man Utd 0:0 Arsenal
- 2% Man Utd 0:1 Arsenal
- 2% Man Utd 1:0 Arsenal
- 2% Man Utd 2:2 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 0:8 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 3:1 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 3:2 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 1:6 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 6:1 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 8:0 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 8:2 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 2:3 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 9:0 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 0:7 Arsenal
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Ayden Heaven
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replaced by Toby Collyer
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replaced by Rasmus Hojlund
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