Pogba's says his future is at United and has many years on contract

Being pissed off that another player is coming in to the side on higher wages - if true is a bitch move, should have been grateful that the club is looking to strengthen (though in hindsight might not have been the best transfer).

Hating the manager and wanting out (playing style/tactics/man management) - acceptable and totally understandable. As an elite footballer, no real reason why you should force yourself to work in a toxic or unfulfilling environment.

However the way he has gone about it and repeatedly tried to undermine the manager in public is not acceptable. One or two comments, fine - not ideal but a point had to be made but after the recent upturn in form and with the manager changing tack slightly, should have just kept his head down and let the situation play out. Now he’s coming across as someone who is that adamant he wants to leave that even if the manager was to leave, he would still want out and even if that’s not the case, he’s going to rub most of the fan base the wrong way and make it hard to forgive these antics.

As much as Martial gets stick, he’s at least carried out a silent protest of sorts and it is clear as day he’s at odds with the manager but otherwise would be loyal to the club. With Pogba there is no such guarantee.
 
Is he actually capable of keeping his mouth shut? He’s worse than Ronaldo
 
JPRouve said:
The more accurate translation would be:"Today my future is with Manchester, I still have many years in my contract".

He also doesn't say "no matter which coach" he only says that he will always give everything for the club, then the journalist try to make him say something about his relationship with Mourinho which he dodges by saying that is future is with Manchester.
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The more accurate translation from the quote i posted from lequipe ? if that's what you mean, the translation is definitly the one i posted. I should know, i speak french. But i don't think you mean that as you're a french speaker yourself.

So you probably mean that he has been misquoted by Lequipe. In that case, i can't speak about that because i haven't seen the interview and that's why i pointed out that those quotes came from Lequipe.

I'm trying to find a link for the video but can't seem to do so. if you have one, can you share please ?

Thanks :)
 
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Watch the video interview. He doesn't even say what you have quoted in French. I can only presume L'Equipe have re-translated back into French the appallingly translated quotes.
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Fair enough, i pointed out that the quotes were taken from Lequipe.

I can't seem to find a link online to the video, just the one he gave to the french journalist. could you give me a link for it please ?

Thanks :)
 
elmo said:
He’s no where near good enough for all the baggage he brings with his constant need for attention.
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His baggages are overblown. Statistically, he is good enough and absolutely minimal chance of a replacement as good. Put up with it.
 
I want him gone, really. The circus around him is going to be unbearable and it will not end for as long as he is here, we could have kind of predicted this when we signed him considering who his agent is but I still expected it to begin a couple of years later than it did.

He’s not even been that good for us either.
 
He needs to stop answering questions on his future. Or just give a generic "I am very happy at United and have nothing more to say". They can't twist your words if there aren't any to begin with.

We went through this same shit with Ronaldo.
 
TMDaines said:
I'm legitimately pissed off with this now. Journos and papers that should know so much better are attributing quite poor and damaging translations to Pogba to try and rile fans up. They've got them hook, line and sinker. If you go to the German website with a VPN, you can watch the whole interview, but it's mostly dubbed into German with the French muffled. The bits of the German and French you can compare are very loosely translated. People have then attributed the German or English translations of the German to Pogba. The weird thing is that people don't even seem to care what the truth is and will just believe whatever fits their prior narrative. I fecking hate this aspect of the Internet.

Quite disappointed with people and the lack of support for players, especially the hypocrisy of wanting unconditional loyalty from players to the club, but are only too happy to chastise a player at any perceived failing.

Let's not even get on to the sense of entitlement. You want star players nowadays? You might have to deal with some baggage and fight to keep them. You're not going to have a batch of world class players in GM every couple of years, who'd never dream of leaving these shores and would just embarrass themselves if they ever did.
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Agreed.

Us fans just seem to love a good outrage. A positive story on a united player probably doesn't cause 10% as much waves as a story with a negative spin.
 
Personally I always thought he was using us as a stepping stone to Real/Barca/PSG. If he'd loved the club and the city so much he wouldn't have left in the first place.

It seems the plan is to boost his brand with United's fanbase, then move to one of the CL-winning clubs for the trophies. It's smart, in a cnutish sort of way.

The annoying thing is that you'd have thought he'd have to play out of his skin for us to earn a big money move to France or Spain. But no, he'll have earned it through his performances for France at the WC - and they don't even pay his wages.

If he wants to go we should bleed the buying club dry in the negotiations next summer. 200 million or he stays. We should hire Levy on a temporary contract just to handle the negotiations.

If we can get that kind of money we'll at least blow the buying club's budget for a couple of years. Given both Real and Barca have ageing squads that could really hurt them.
 
JPRouve said:
He didn't say near future, that translation can only be malicious. He said that his future was with Manchester and that he was under contract for many years.
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Just had Martin Lipton on Talksport and he is using the dodgy translation as well. Now it is difficult to know what is the truth in anything the press put out there.
 
In Rainbows said:
No we cannot. Those midfielders you listed on our team aren't better than him. Which attacking midfielder will light up the PL with his performances? You're here thinking Pogba is easily replaceable, and we've already brought in Mkhytarian and Sanchez, and none have been successes. Even Fred who we just brought in hasn't been better than Pogba. We can't assume everyone we bring in will just be better than Pogba.

Again, it says it all that people think Pogba is replaceable and yet a lot of our players aren't doing as well as him.
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Amen man. I've been preaching to the choir for how long now.
Pogba is our most talented player and whilst underperforming, he's still outperforming all our other players, from big money to small money; from defence to attack. That is something people just don't realise.
It would take a miracle for us to get a better replacement.
 
Well, doesn’t sound that bad from what the French speakers here say (about the actual interview, as far as it’s known). Generic enough answer, as others have said.

People aren’t reacting to an isolated comment, though. He seems to make ambiguous comments a little too often. Could have just stated plainly (since he must be aware that there’s speculation as to his situation) that he’s perfectly happy with everything, nothing to see here, etc.
 
Pogba as a player has an identity crisis, and maybe that is Jose's fault? maybe he is just not suitable for Utd, not sure but he seems incapable of the Scholes type role, sitting in and feeding the attack, the Carrick sitting deeper and feeding the ball around the pitch or the Keane type enforcer role.... so what role does he play.... a poor chimera of all of these, within games he may have a 5 second moment of brilliance, which is a luxury you can allow strikers, not one you can allow your main midfielder.

Right now, I would happily ditcgh Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku, all have been and continue to be underwhelming.... people are asking can we replace, who is better, I would ask if anyone could be worse?

Or maybe it is Mourinho, change the manager and get 3 new players, fulfilling their potential, either way something needs to change before any Utd fan can talk about being any sought of threat to any competition, or even sitting down to enjoy a match rather than endure it.

A get shot of Woodward too at least in terms of recruitment, each window the guy has been a waste of space, and often an embarrassment.
 
JohnnyKills said:
Personally I always thought he was using us as a stepping stone to Real/Barca/PSG. If he'd loved the club and the city so much he wouldn't have left in the first place.

It seems the plan is to boost his brand with United's fanbase, then move to one of the CL-winning clubs for the trophies. It's smart, in a cnutish sort of way.

The annoying thing is that you'd have thought he'd have to play out of his skin for us to earn a big money move to France or Spain. But no, he'll have earned it through his performances for France at the WC - and they don't even pay his wages.

If he wants to go we should bleed the buying club dry in the negotiations next summer. 200 million or he stays. We should hire Levy on a temporary contract just to handle the negotiations.

If we can get that kind of money we'll at least blow the buying club's budget for a couple of years. Given both Real and Barca have ageing squads that could really hurt them.
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And he wasn't even great at the world cup. Solid, decent, yes. But not great.

If he does earn a huge move to Barca it'll have been almost completely undeserved. He's shown little over the last 2 years for his value to increase. If he does go, the fee will be down to market inflation.

Personally I don't think we can hope for more than max £150m. He's not worth more.
 
Sell this overrated git, and bring someone that will actually have the clubs ambitions and goals at his heart. Pogba and his prick agent aren't worth the hassle. Whatever he actually said is irrelevant to me (regarding the translation), it's happened couple of times in less than a month, if he wanted to avoid the question he could have done it very easily.

Feck him, I'm starting to dislike him even more, and I actually voted him over Jose on that poll. I regret that.
 
Woodward delivers us Pogba, Martial, ADM, Schweinsteiger, Falcao, Depay, Ibrahimovic, Matic, Fred, Lukaku (fair enough they didn't all work out), improves United's financials... Yet fails to deliver on one centre back and he gets a plane with a banner against him.

Pogba openly creates doubt about his future, creates instability through his circus, lets his rodent of a manager off his leash, has more shit performances than decent performances, falls out with the manager, despite receiving the captain's armband says shit like "If I say what I think I will be fined", refuses to go about his business quietly... And there are still some here defending him claiming he's "misquoted".

Not a single one of our other stars acts the way this prima donna does. DDG, Sanchez, Lukaku, Matic... All grafters who just get on with their jobs and do their best for the club.

It could not be clearer that his heart is not at the club and the sooner he's booted out the better. He may be our best midfielder but we'll probably play better without him and the huge cloud he brings with him.
 
Mr H said:
The more accurate translation from the quote i posted from lequipe ? if that's what you mean, the translation is definitly the one i posted. I should know, i speak french. But i don't think you mean that as you're a french speaker yourself.

So you probably mean that he has been misquoted by Lequipe. In that case, i can't speak about that because i haven't seen the interview and that's why i pointed out that those quotes came from Lequipe.

I'm trying to find a link for the video but can't seem to do so. if you have one, can you share please ?

Thanks :)
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The part that they are translating is on this thread and L'Equipe translation makes no sense.
 
We have a player and agent who seem to like the sound of their own contrary voices and a press who is only too happy to skew quotations to generate 'debate' and clicks. A toxic combination and a sad state of affairs for sure.
 
Kostov said:
Sell this overrated git, and bring someone that will actually have the clubs ambitions and goals at his heart. Pogba and his prick agent aren't worth the hassle. Whatever he actually said is irrelevant to me (regarding the translation), it's happened couple of times in less than a month, if he wanted to avoid the question he could have done it very easily.

Feck him, I'm starting to dislike him even more, and I actually voted him over Jose on that poll. I regret that.
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We all thought Pogba had the ambitions and goals of the club at heart too, but yet here we are. We all thought all our signings had the ambitions and goals of club at heart but most weren't really good enough. Do you City, Pool, Chelsea, Spurs players had the club's ambition at heart when they were signed?
It's not about heart, it's about having quality players, keeping them happy and getting the best out of them. Pogba is quality, but we aren't doing the other two right.
 
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ESPN are banned on r/RedDevils because in recent months they have decided to be the baitiest of all the clickbait and have been shown to be deliberately misleading over and over again.
 
whatwha said:
And he wasn't even great at the world cup. Solid, decent, yes. But not great.

If he does earn a huge move to Barca it'll have been almost completely undeserved. He's shown little over the last 2 years for his value to increase. If he does go, the fee will be down to market inflation.

Personally I don't think we can hope for more than max £150m. He's not worth more.
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Reckon we can get more given his marketing value.

Anyway let's hope the comments are misquoted and he stays.
 
Mr H said:
Fair enough, i pointed out that the quotes were taken from Lequipe.

I can't seem to find a link online to the video, just the one he gave to the french journalist. could you give me a link for it please ?

Thanks :)
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Sky Sports Deutschland with a VPN seems the only way. Problem is that it is nearly all dubbed into German and loosely dubbed from what you can hear of both. The only clip not dubbed is what Sky Sports UK provided.
 
Roy Keane would be turning in his grave if he were dead.

Paul Pogba is a disgrace to the captain's armband

Sooner he fecks off the better. Too much drama and baggage surrounding the bloke and it isn't like he is Ronaldo or Messi where the pay off is actually worth it. Reminds me of Ballotelli or Yaya Toure for City but those players was much better for them and had moments of magic that helped to be successful/win trophies. What has Paul Pogba won us!?

Atleast Ronaldo and Tevez actually won stuff with us before acting the Big Time Charlie. But Pogba can only dream of being half the player Paul Ince was.. what I would give to have a Paul Ince in his pomp in this team he would be the least drama queen there !

No wonder Sir Alex Ferguson sold the bloke.. he isn't often wrong, and I don't think he's wrong here. Let Paul Pogba go to a crappy league where he can be a big fish in a small pond and he will look a superstar like Messi.. but put him in a team in competitive league and when the chips are down he goes missing in action when he has to produce the goods week-in and week-out. He is our Ricardo Quaresma.. great talent but bad attitude/agent/advice stopped him achieving greatness.

It's not even winter yet !!! wait until Pogba has to play on a wet winter windy night in Stoke and he will be even more of a mard arse.. same for Martial sooner these toxic personalities feck off out of our club the better.
 
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We all thought Pogba had the ambitions and goals of the club at heart too, but yet here we are. We all thought all our signings had the ambitions and goals of club at heart but most weren't really good enough. Do you City, Pool, Chelsea, Spurs players had the club's ambition at heart when they were signed?
It's not about heart, it's about having quality players, keeping them happy and getting the best out of them. Pogba is quality, but we aren't doing the other two right.
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After paying them shit loads of money, to keep them happy, Manchester United football club does not owe anything to Pogba and the likes. Getting the best out of them? Well he did question himself about his attitude, I can understand someone saying that Jose is not getting the best out of him. But Pogba himself very often is shocking, and that is on himself, nobody else.

Whether he likes Mourinho or not, it's not his to tell, he needs to respect the club and it's fans first and foremost, and by that he should keep his mouth shut and not put our season in jeopardy by mouthing off every other week. If he wants to leave, let his agent bring a sufficient offer form whoever is ready to take over their circus and be done with it. Just like we did when we payed what Juve wanted.
 
would be a bit quicker exit then I thought. never believed he would be here for most of his career. if he don't want to be here let him go. in a way he would be hard to replace but also he's not on a consistent level for the premiership so would work both ways, would prob look amazing in Spain.
 
Looks like teams are figuring out how to play agains Paul Pogba (Germany now!). It's no secret anymore. Get a midfield tight to him, pressure him, stick one on him, don't let him get his head up, let him drift out of dangerous position as his indiscipline from his youth days sets in.. take him out of the game.

He even gets outmuscled by players half his size. He doesn't have the stomach for England. Proper pansy ala Veron.

Let him go to Spain and look like a world beater, that will prove nothing. He is the most overrated United player I've ever seen... and United fans are guilty of it.

I've been saying it for years.. get rid of these pansy foreigners Pogba, Martial etc and get our British identity back.. then I think we have a chance to compete and win trophies again !
 
Mr Anderson said:


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In that clip, he never even says once "who knowswhat will happen in the future". If this whole drama is based on this then you gotta fecking laugh :lol::lol::lol:
He said his future is at Man Utd and he has several years on his contract.

I repeat if the whole thing is based on this then this thread is really "special", it shows many of our fans have unhealthy hatred for Pogba

@Paul the Wolf It's fecking ridiculous isn't it ?
 
kouroux said:
In that clip, he never even says once "who knowswhat will happen in the future". If this whole drama is based on this then you gotta fecking laugh :lol::lol::lol:
He said his future is at Man Utd and he has several years on his contract.

I repeat if the whole thing is based on this then this thread is really "special", it shows many of our fans have unhealthy hatred for Pogba
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People have really shown their true colours. So much for backing the players and the manager. To this date Pogba has never come out and actually said he wants to leave. I recall Rooney doing that in 2010...
 
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kouroux said:
In that clip, he never even says once "who knowswhat will happen in the future". If this whole drama is based on this then you gotta fecking laugh :lol::lol::lol:
He said his future is at Man Utd and he has several years on his contract.

I repeat if the whole thing is based on this then this thread is really "special", it shows many of our fans have unhealthy hatred for Pogba

@Paul the Wolf It's fecking ridiculous isn't it ?
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There is nothing in this story. Ridiculous alright.
 
abdo99 said:
People have really shown their true colours. So much for backing the players and the manager. To this date Pogba has never come out and actually said he wants to leave. I recall Rooney doing that in 2010...
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You (not you @abdo99 lol) can criticize him by all means but so much bile being spouted on the basis of a wrongly translated video, by United fans is fecked up to me
 
If Pogba was consistent in his performances then I would be worried with a potential departure but he's not.He has a decent showing in 1-in-3 games and I dont see that changing anytime soon,armband or not.
Concerning Jose vs Pogba. My personal view is I think Jose has given Pogba as much leeway as possible since he's been here but now Jose,like most of us,wants a more rounded mature performer and we're not getting that,and neither are we getting a more mature individual going by these latest comments.

All this shouldn't really be a surprise.The stink Pogba served up in getting out of here and then eventually returning ,especially with that disrespectful social media circus, should all have been a warning.
 
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People have really shown their true colours. So much for backing the players and the manager. To this date Pogba has never come out and actually said he wants to leave. I recall Rooney doing that in 2010...
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Rooney is English though. He never wanted to leave.
 
Have we actually closed what is the actual translation? Or are we still fighting over that
 
kouroux said:
In that clip, he never even says once "who knowswhat will happen in the future". If this whole drama is based on this then you gotta fecking laugh :lol::lol::lol:
He said his future is at Man Utd and he has several years on his contract.

I repeat if the whole thing is based on this then this thread is really "special", it shows many of our fans have unhealthy hatred for Pogba

@Paul the Wolf It's fecking ridiculous isn't it ?
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If false quotes are being attributed to him all over the press the club needs to respond aggressively.
 
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