What did he exactly say again
?Pogba's says his future is at United and has many years on contract
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?People dislike the side show and the distraction this has on our club. He knows the rumours are flying around and he could stop the rumours instantly with one tweet just saying 'i want to stay at united long term'.
I'm with Jose all the way on this and if Pogba is unhappy then best to get rid in Jan.
That's not going to work. Pogba clearly stated he loved United in the interview where he said he can't say all of what he wants to say or he'll get fined. Yet at that point everyone turned on Pogba as opposed to backing him and finding out what's causing him to harbor negative thoughts towards a person at the club. Because it certainly wasn't to do with the club itself based on his quotes.
The fans are quick to turn on him.
I think it's a lesson for all of us to see the interview with their own eyes rather than trusting the media blindly.
Not a lot people do that anyway
so why would he ? You're saying you're with Jose on this but what is actually Jose's side ?Wow, this thread is hilarious. Given that he was misquoted.
Mou has caused more drama than Pogba though. It clearly goes beyond that though as some fans literally criticized his haircuts which is pretty ludicrous. A haircut takes what? 1-2 hours out of the day which only happens every 2-3 weeks?
The state of this thread is amazing. Now I kind of wish Pogba would leave. It’s a good thing the actual fans who go to Old Trafford aren’t anything like some of the ones on here and involved in social media. You’d think some would have understood by now that the agenda the press has in causing turmoil for the sake of more clicks means taking everything that comes out should be highly suspicious if not completely fabricated.
It’s been a fascinating read through, I can see what an honor it must be to play for some of these “fans”. Not sure why anyone would want to leave. Fortunately, it’s always the minority that’s the loudest online.
It’s been a fascinating read through, I can see what an honor it must be to play for some of these “fans”. Not sure why anyone would want to leave. Fortunately, it’s always the minority that’s the loudest online.
Why does he have to tweet anything? He can't win either way. If he tweets " I want to stay" then the press will spin it as if he's been forced to say it. If he doesn't the press says he wants to leave. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Not a lot people do that anyway
I asked myself the same question, Mourinho has nothing to do with it.
If the barber is terrible, it will take that long
It is funny. I mean the translation is wrong but it doesn't stop some from criticizing him.
Would Mbappe accept that tho? There was a rumor we were interested in him before he moved to PSG and that we turned the other way once he allegedly said style of football under Mourinho wouldn't suit him.
This is the same guy who said "There are things I cannot say, otherwise I will get fined" a few weeks ago. He is not blameless in this media affair and he could come out wqith a clear message when his club are in a bit of turmoil. Even if he doesn't intend to stick by it, he will get us out of the papers in the short term so we can focus on the footballing side.
I like Pogba, I like Mourinho and I like Woodward. I can see they all have flaws but they are all capable of delivering big things for the club if they all just stayed away from the media and agreed to work together.
What's the most baffling is that we always say how much media is against us, yet when something like this comes out, purposely misquoted, bunch of fans take it to be the absolute truth.
No wonder the media will always be winding us up when we're this fickle, all they need to see is the amount of shiit comments Pogba has gotten since yesterday on the social media.
In this media affair, he is 100% blameless. Problem is people cannot analyze things objectively without their bias.
I see your point. Do you really believe Pogba giving a press briefing would stop all the media spouting shite about Utd? Ok, so he does it, then the press moves on to someone else. Does that someone else give a briefing as well? When does it end? I think we are feeding the monster(media) every time we indulge in their every whim. Let the parasites feed on each other I say.
Pogba doesn't have to reassure the insecurities of supposed fans (here fools) everytime a bad story is written. The most important thing is the relationship between him and Jose and so far this season, there is nothing indicating there is a real issue
This thread should go in the classics.
This particular case, agreed. I also agree about a definite bias in this thread and people happy to jump to conclusions, but you may also have your own bias as a French United fan (I have the same regarding Roy Keane's antics). I'm not running down Pogba the player, just feel that when the team isn't doing as well as we should be, previous comments are not helpful in steadying the ship.
I think if it gets to the stage where your interviews are torn apart by the media to this degree, you either look to set the record straight or you don't give interviews. Instead we have this vague middle ground that is open to interpretation and we're continually big news in the papers on top of a poor start to the season.
Ideally, nobody should pay any attention to any of this. But given that the latter won’t happen, you have to say that Pogba could have – easily – made it much more difficult for both the media and the hysterical fans to interpret his comments this way and that. How do we classify the “would be fined” comment, to make the most obvious example? He doesn’t have to say that, period. He’s not stupid, he knows it will generate a lot of speculation. Alternatively, if he honestly didn’t mean to come across a cryptic (some kind of language/communication issue), he could have stated simply and plainly that there’s nothing to it – he’s not unsettled in any way, etc.
You can’t pull the “damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t” line on that one. A significant number among those who supposedly “hate” him are a) to various degrees underwhelmed by his performances in a United shirt and b) of the opinion that the sum total of his comments in the last year or so indicate that he isn’t 100% settled at the club. The comments of his odious agent can be added to the equation too, of course. It’s hard to imagine that Pogba positively disapproves of what he’s been spouting of late – if he was, he could have easily distanced himself from it.
A high profile player like him – obviously – has his reasons for not wanting to declare that he’ll stay at United till he retires, and that no big teams need come calling. That’s business, if you will. But it’s hardly endearing – there’s no reason why your average fan should find it so. To make an obvious point, there’s no comparison here to the Ronaldo situation when he was at United. He was so undeniably brilliant on the pitch that the other stuff could be tolerated – and didn’t actually tarnish his image that much (for the majority of fans).
You can’t pull the “damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t” line on that one. A significant number among those who supposedly “hate” him are a) to various degrees underwhelmed by his performances in a United shirt and b) of the opinion that the sum total of his comments in the last year or so indicate that he isn’t 100% settled at the club. The comments of his odious agent can be added to the equation too, of course. It’s hard to imagine that Pogba positively disapproves of what he’s been spouting of late – if he was, he could have easily distanced himself from it.
A high profile player like him – obviously – has his reasons for not wanting to declare that he’ll stay at United till he retires, and that no big teams need come calling. That’s business, if you will. But it’s hardly endearing – there’s no reason why your average fan should find it so. To make an obvious point, there’s no comparison here to the Ronaldo situation when he was at United. He was so undeniably brilliant on the pitch that the other stuff could be tolerated – and didn’t actually tarnish his image that much (for the majority of fans).
You must not visit his performance thread often.
We all have biases indeed but I try to remain as objective as I can, when there is something to condemn (like those terrible quotes after Brighton), I have no problem with that. I support Man United way before Pogba. I have never had any problems criticizing him when I thought he deserved it
There is no language/communication issue, there was nothing cryptic about his answers either. Here you have people(journalist) who made up quotes by adding things that he didn't say.
Xenophobia, nice
Funny to see some doubling down when shown they were being hysterical about doctored quotes.
What exactly did he say? And what did which medium ad? I can’t seem to find it that easily in these 14 pages of outrage...
this thread.Gotta say your posts are bottom barrel everytime I see them. Laced with xenophobia and ignorance. I half suspect you're on the wind up....
I think it's clear that we do, and it's a nightmare. They need deleting...
Not likely. Been telling caftards this for years, it's never taken well when I do... It's fair to say a lot of them prefer to be outraged.
His future is here and has many years on his contract. After that, who know.
People are mad, the media do this everytime and people fall for it.
He's our resident kipper.
Heck, then there's no need to sell any club related stuff outside of UK, no need for sponsorship outside of UK, no need to broadcast UTD games outside of UK either, right? No need for support outside of UK also, right?
We should reasonably expect the media not to write slanderous comments!
But he doesn't say that in the video clip, so unless someone can find a different video clip, where he does say that, then it's pure invention by the media and people fall for these sort of antics every time.
People believe what they want to believe. Truth seldom comes into it.
Ah, found it, thanks, JPRouve and you others who went to the sources instead of the tabloids/twitterers.
He never said anything about "who knows what will happen in the next few months" or anything close to that.
If he had, french media would have been all over it like flies on shit. I have not seen a single french media relaying this.
Yes, I realize that - the last one is just a generic comment in isolation.
I was referring to the "could be fined" comment, which can hardly be classed as anything but cryptic.
I don't think Pogba will ever be the player for United that you need him to be.
Look at the midfielders he was playing or competing with during his seasons at Juve.....
12/13 - Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio
13/14 - Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio
14/15 - Marchisio, Vidal
15/16 - Marchisio, Khedira
He played with some of the best midfielders in the world at that time, which allowed him a lot more freedom and allowed him to get away with things he is now being found out for.
He's come in at United and has been playing in a midfield with the likes of Herrera, Fellaini, occasionally Blind, an ageing Carrick, McTominay and Matic. All very good players on their day, but a step down from the consistency and quality he played with at Juve. The onus is now on him to be the main-man and to bring the quality up of those around him. He doesn't seem capable of being able to do that.
The point is highlighted by the World Cup, when he found himself in a midfield with Kante and Matuidi, and low and behold he's a world-beater again!
What's more, Juve haven't really missed him. If anything, they're a better team since he left.
You either need to make massive improvements to the midfield and team around him, or move him on.
Look at the midfielders he was playing or competing with during his seasons at Juve.....
12/13 - Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio
13/14 - Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio
14/15 - Marchisio, Vidal
15/16 - Marchisio, Khedira
He played with some of the best midfielders in the world at that time, which allowed him a lot more freedom and allowed him to get away with things he is now being found out for.
He's come in at United and has been playing in a midfield with the likes of Herrera, Fellaini, occasionally Blind, an ageing Carrick, McTominay and Matic. All very good players on their day, but a step down from the consistency and quality he played with at Juve. The onus is now on him to be the main-man and to bring the quality up of those around him. He doesn't seem capable of being able to do that.
The point is highlighted by the World Cup, when he found himself in a midfield with Kante and Matuidi, and low and behold he's a world-beater again!
What's more, Juve haven't really missed him. If anything, they're a better team since he left.
You either need to make massive improvements to the midfield and team around him, or move him on.