Pogba: "We Should Attack, Attack, Attack!"
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Correct.
We are attacking. Our problem is that our attackers just aren't very good, right now.
If our attackers were on form, I have no doubt that they'd finish their chances and we'd win most of our games.
I don’t disagree with what Pogbas saying in the fact we need to attack more but he’s turning into a mouthy cnut and not really helping the situation, but in my opinion what he’s saying has got feck all to do with tactics etc and more to with his own agenda, he needs to give it a rest.
It’s the same word in French and it’s not such a difficult word...
That's not the point I tried to make though, but fair enough. You forgot to explain why exactly we couldn't 't string 3 passes together in a home game against Wolves by the way.
Too difficult for Valencia
I don't know if he has or he hasn't but I don't think it's relevant either way.
The club gains absolutely nothing from its players running their mouths in the press. Pogba would have been fined and eventually booted out of the club for making such an undermining comment in the press if SAF was in charge, Jose should be thinking along the same lines if you ask me. It sets a dangerous precedent allowing your players to say whatever they damn well please with impunity.
Don't get me wrong, I'm firmly in the 'Mourinho out' brigade (I have been since the Brighton debacle) but at the same time I'm also a believer in not airing your dirty laundry in public and Pogba is one of the worst at the club for doing that - so is Jose for that matter. The entire club from top to bottom is rotted out, wholesale changes need to be made.
Totally agree mate , last couple of games I thought he had done quite well and was just going to knuckle down and perform then he comes out with cheap shots at Jose . It doesn`t matter whether he is right in what he said , he shouldn`t be having sly digs at the gaffer . I doubt he will be here next season as it looks like he will engineer a move away . No wonder Fergie let him go .
Fair play to Pogba, all this press talk is just taking the pressure off Jose (that's how it works right?)
Do people think that, at home, Jose is asking the team to defend ? Pogba is just playing to the fans. That's all. clearly, he either wants out or wants Jose out. it's one of the two. there's no reason to say that to the press, just say it to your teamates.
For all those championing Pogba's comments, you should be ashamed of yourselves,, in the world cup why did france not attack, attack, attack.
The team switched from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3, to give Pogba more freedom, and the end result is he still hugs the ball too long, coupled with so many misplaced or under hit passes, by the time he releases the ball the opppostion have got back in shape.
Football is like boxing, the idea is to give your opposition a false sense of security, and then hit them with the sucker punch, and to do so, it involes a combination of defence and attack, learning how to control the the tempo, keeping your opponents at arms length, dragging them in, and catching them off guard.
Different managers use differing methods to achieve this.
Pep uses a combination of short passes and high pressing to move the opposition around and create space. 'Pure creativity'.
Klopp is more about high pressing to force the opposition into making a mistake in the oppositions half. 'The scavenger approach' shotgun.
Mourinho teams require players with good concerntration, football intelligence [Matic's red card against Watford] and quick transistions, [what Lyon done to Man city]. 'The Floyd Mayweather approach'.
Even Pellegrini, against Chelsea, opted to narrow the midfield, force Chelsea wide and hit them on the counter.
The quicker Fred [he moves the ball faster, and will become the new fulcrum for the team] finds his feet, and Mourinho moves back to 4-2-3-1, the better, with fellani and matic as a shield, Fred thru the middile, Sanchez on the left and Rashford on the right.
The front three do need to improve their first touch, otherwise the plan falls apart.
The team switched from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3, to give Pogba more freedom, and the end result is he still hugs the ball too long, coupled with so many misplaced or under hit passes, by the time he releases the ball the opppostion have got back in shape.
Football is like boxing, the idea is to give your opposition a false sense of security, and then hit them with the sucker punch, and to do so, it involes a combination of defence and attack, learning how to control the the tempo, keeping your opponents at arms length, dragging them in, and catching them off guard.
Different managers use differing methods to achieve this.
Pep uses a combination of short passes and high pressing to move the opposition around and create space. 'Pure creativity'.
Klopp is more about high pressing to force the opposition into making a mistake in the oppositions half. 'The scavenger approach' shotgun.
Mourinho teams require players with good concerntration, football intelligence [Matic's red card against Watford] and quick transistions, [what Lyon done to Man city]. 'The Floyd Mayweather approach'.
Even Pellegrini, against Chelsea, opted to narrow the midfield, force Chelsea wide and hit them on the counter.
The quicker Fred [he moves the ball faster, and will become the new fulcrum for the team] finds his feet, and Mourinho moves back to 4-2-3-1, the better, with fellani and matic as a shield, Fred thru the middile, Sanchez on the left and Rashford on the right.
The front three do need to improve their first touch, otherwise the plan falls apart.
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From that fall out between them last season, it seems Pogba did go to speak to him on behalf of the other players and Mourinho got his knickers in a twist and asked him 'who is the manager' or some such comment. So it looked like he didn't want to be questioned in any way. If that's the case, then maybe Pogba probably got desparate and felt he had to say something publicly?
Sushhhh you said it outloud, there are way to many real United fans that really don´t want to hear this.
That aside it´s almost the carbon copy of Hazards complaints.
We have to face it, Jose is never going to be able to adapt. We'll just have to grin and bear it until something changes. He's completely out of his comfort zone re attacking football.
There are no set attacking patterns to our play and the manager is responsible for that. We haven't seen it in 3 years since he's been here. Old and new players are all doing the same thing. Therefore, we can only conclude the manager doesn't know what to do in this respect.
I'm not for players speaking to the media like this but I can't find any fault with Pogba re his comments.
There are no set attacking patterns to our play and the manager is responsible for that. We haven't seen it in 3 years since he's been here. Old and new players are all doing the same thing. Therefore, we can only conclude the manager doesn't know what to do in this respect.
I'm not for players speaking to the media like this but I can't find any fault with Pogba re his comments.
This been posted?
Let's say a new manager comes. How much time Pogba gives to us, United fans, who he loves so much, until he starts to flirt with other clubs again?
And who gives a single crap what this grade A bullshit artist says?
Might as well post Balague quotes next
Disgraceful comments. He's a poisonous character and will be very difficult for any manager to deal with. Every question seemed to be some variation of "why is your team so bad" and he managed to throw in "I'm not the manager" at the end of each response.
Love him or hate him, Mourinho is the manager and Pogba is the superstar player. He has to behave better than that. He could easily deflect those questions but seems to revel in how many negative headlines he can create with his "I can't say anything because I don't want to be critical" schtick.
What has really shocked me is the number of comments saying "Pogba is right" as if his comments are some type of revelation. "We should attack, attack, attack" is now heralded as some tactical genius that Mourinho hasn't thought of!
I really think United should score more goals than the opposition. I wish someone would let Mourinho know because he mustn't have thought of it.
Love him or hate him, Mourinho is the manager and Pogba is the superstar player. He has to behave better than that. He could easily deflect those questions but seems to revel in how many negative headlines he can create with his "I can't say anything because I don't want to be critical" schtick.
What has really shocked me is the number of comments saying "Pogba is right" as if his comments are some type of revelation. "We should attack, attack, attack" is now heralded as some tactical genius that Mourinho hasn't thought of!
I really think United should score more goals than the opposition. I wish someone would let Mourinho know because he mustn't have thought of it.
Never said you had to give a crap, did I? I'm not trying to sway you and I always thought the point of a forum was to post stuff, is it not?
I said it's one way of looking at it and considering some of the utter bullshit that gets posted on here, it will fit right in so if that's your mind-set on it
We had threads yesterday bemoaning people using our new attacking emphasis as a reason for our poor form and then Pogba says this and suddenly we haven't even played attacking football this season 
It's quite telling how this same exact sort of scene plays out at just about every stop under this manager but alas,everyone but him is responsible for the situation
The Jose loyalists have predictably continued to stick their heads in the sand and decided to attack the messenger instead.
Very much the same kind of fans who bemoaned and turned against Hazard back then and were begging for him to be sold for daring to question their genius's wisdom and authority because top players should be satisfied and content with mediocrity and not winning things or something...
Pogba knows exactly what he is doing with these regular comments. Regardless of what your feelings are towards Mourinho, no player should [publicly] undermine the manager. Pogba should be sold as soon as possible. Absolutely atrocious attitude.
It's quite telling how this same exact sort of scene plays out at just about every stop under this manager but alas,everyone but him is responsible for the situation
The Jose loyalists have predictably continued to stick their heads in the sand and decided to attack the messenger instead.
Very much the same kind of fans who bemoaned and turned against Hazard back then and were begging for him to be sold for daring to question their genius's wisdom and authority because top players should be satisfied and content with mediocrity and not winning things or something...
I fully agree with this.
Sadly there will only be one winner here and that is Mourinho, no way Utd will fire Jose on Pogba´s command.
You should be our manager. Will get very far with such a genius at the helm.
Pogba is right, but do we have the players up front to finish. Sanchez keeps losing possession on us. Lingard keeps cutting inside and we lose our width on both sides. We are like a bunch of sheep gathered together in a Pen. Dalot was very good last week but was then dropped for someone who cannot cross a ball to save his life. Give some of the youngsters a chance. Mckenna know what they can do.
Pogba is just a big star in what is a soap opera at United at the moment, he's delivering all the best lines. I'm just praying that some new script writers come in and turn us into Dynasty instead of Emmerdale Farm......
blaming Pogba is a bit like blaming Corbyn for Brexit
he might be an idiot but its not his doing
he might be an idiot but its not his doing
I guess it's perfectly normal that a player undermines a manager like this. Ed should ask Pogba what manager does he want in.It's quite telling how this same exact sort of scene plays out at just about every stop under this manager but alas,everyone but him is responsible for the situation
The Jose loyalists have predictably continued to stick their heads in the sand and decided to attack the messenger instead.
Very much the same kind of fans who bemoaned and turned against Hazard back then and were begging for him to be sold for daring to question their genius's wisdom and authority because top players should be satisfied and content with mediocrity and not winning things or something...
Like another United fan wrote, "Pogba says attack, attack, attack so why does he delay, delay, delay". Which is spot on, he stands on the ball waiting for a challenge and then falls over wanting a free kick. He does it numerous times. Infuriating player that United would be better off without. I say the sooner he is sold the better, that goes for Sanchez as well who has been one of the worst number 7s ever to don the United shirt and that includes Michael Owen.
No idea, but I'm sure no one really cares as long as they can get the pitchforks out over some juicy headlines.
If we don't drop some players from this team now, we will not finish in top 4. Sanchez needs to be dropped, Valencia needs to be dropped for Dalot or Young, and Lingard needs to be dropped, and give Pereira a chance there or young Chong.
I would go as far as to say that Pogba is doing the bare minimum on purpose. He does enough to get his moments on a highlight You Tube video, so that his stock stays high, but that’s all.
We all know what he’s capable of, but the lapses, holding onto the ball and sloppy passes are all too frequent.
Why does he have to publically say these undermining statements all the time?
We all know what he’s capable of, but the lapses, holding onto the ball and sloppy passes are all too frequent.
Why does he have to publically say these undermining statements all the time?
Pogman gets it.
I agree with what he has said, but I don't think him going to the media everytime is going to help anyone.
At this point, I genuinely am not sure wether we have no attacking plan (on Jose) or if our players are complete shite.
I think there is a bit of both mixed in here. I am starting to doubt whether Lukaku has what it takes to be a top striker, and Sanchez has certainly been a major let down, especially considering the obscene wages he is on.
On the other hand, I think that our players are not so bad that we struggle to create anything. We are not very well coached in attacking, that is clear.
At this point, I genuinely am not sure wether we have no attacking plan (on Jose) or if our players are complete shite.
I think there is a bit of both mixed in here. I am starting to doubt whether Lukaku has what it takes to be a top striker, and Sanchez has certainly been a major let down, especially considering the obscene wages he is on.
On the other hand, I think that our players are not so bad that we struggle to create anything. We are not very well coached in attacking, that is clear.
Not wrong with what he said, but I'm on the fence on whether he should have said it or not. He speaks the truth and is clearly frustrated.
Precisely.
He’s our best player almost every week, I think he does as much as is reasonable.
While Pogba has a point, his comments show a lack of maturity and that he is not yet ready for the captain's armband.
His 'polemic' tweet changes nothing. This has happened too often to be tolerated. There should be consequences.
His 'polemic' tweet changes nothing. This has happened too often to be tolerated. There should be consequences.
Attack, attack, attack when team can't even defend properly, not to mention press the rival to stop them from doing what they want at Old Trafford... and then the customary plan B is executed where we see Fellaini chesting down passes from teammates so we can relive these wonderful years with Moyes and LvG just once more.
Oh how can I forget this season we can't even attack, attack, attack properly. Pogba really just mentioned tip of the iceberg.
Oh how can I forget this season we can't even attack, attack, attack properly. Pogba really just mentioned tip of the iceberg.