If he doesn’t want his words twisted then he should stop running to those journo rats after the game. I can’t remember the last time he did an MUTV interview.
Pogba: "We Should Attack, Attack, Attack!"
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Thats the best part. He's really pushing it. I mean he's stopping journos to say his piece. How low can you get.
We are attacking more. I don’t think he’s frustrated. He loves the team and Jose. Once Sanchez wakes up we will be very dangerous.
Questioning the manager's decisions/work in public is only a good idea when you know that your teammates think the same. Something is wrong here.
He knows what he's doing and he'll keep doing it till summer comes. We just have to endure and squeeze the best performance we can from him while he's here before he inevitable gets what he wants and leave.
I'm not sure if he wants to leave, I suspect that he wants someone else to leave.
Pogbas not wrong, I mean we all know it. Problem is that Pogba is himself guilty of bad finishing. He does at least score goals (although some of them are pens), and he's our 2nd highest creative player.
To put our attack into perspective, this Calendar Year we've played 23 PL Games and our top scorers read as follows:
Lukaku - 10 goals - 24.4% CR
Pogba - 5 goals - 8.5% CR
Smalling - 4 goals - 50.0% CR
Rashford - 3 goals - 17.6% CR
Martial - 3 goals - 11.1% CR
Sanchez - 2 goals - 7.1% CR
Lingard - 2 goals - 4.8% CR
Everyone else is 1 or 0.
CR = Conversion Rate
Yes, Smalling is our 3rd highest goal scorer.
To put our attack into perspective, this Calendar Year we've played 23 PL Games and our top scorers read as follows:
Lukaku - 10 goals - 24.4% CR
Pogba - 5 goals - 8.5% CR
Smalling - 4 goals - 50.0% CR
Rashford - 3 goals - 17.6% CR
Martial - 3 goals - 11.1% CR
Sanchez - 2 goals - 7.1% CR
Lingard - 2 goals - 4.8% CR
Everyone else is 1 or 0.
CR = Conversion Rate
Yes, Smalling is our 3rd highest goal scorer.
I’m fairly sure that a lot of our teammates feel the same way. The only people I can see really being happy with things right now are Sanchez, Lukaku and probably Matic.
Also in a work environment like a football club, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t make comments like this if you thought that the club were firmly backing the manager, as that could spell an end to you at the club, especially with a manager like Mourinho. That is something to consider as well.
If he wants Mourinho gone he should go and tell Ed then if he believes he has enough power, instead of bitching about it in the media now and then. It's not going to help anyone, and sure as hell not going to help the club.
I'd be better than you because I actually would give a reason for my different opinions, as opposed to yourself...
That's very poor stat, tbh atrocious for the club like ManUtd. Smalling in 3rd place makes it even worse, I mean no disrespect to the player but he is a CB and we played 23 league games.
It's just terrible. Only 5 players have scored this season.
Smalling, Shaw, Fred, Pogba and Lukaku.
Two defenders, two midfielders and a striker. Nothing from wingers. How can you possibly challenge for the PL like this? Especially when the likes of Liverpool and City are getting 15+ goals from wide men alone.
Your opinion is so inadequate that it really does not need much explanation.
Not sure if conversion rate alone does your attackers justice here. If i'm not mistaken, you are constantly low on expected goals as well, which implies that your attackers simply do not get good chances and puts those conversion rates into perspective. In other words, your style of play makes it hard to score for anyone.
Those stats are just pathetic - honestly who else can you blame but the manager
It is the lack of movement in the final third though, which is the problem. That and many players are just not good enough for what we want to achieve.
I'm not defending Mourinho or anyone here but, this has been the same since Moyes took over. This isn't anything new under Mourinho, although we did create quite a few chances in this first season.
Even when Lukaku missed the open goal against Spurs, I knew it was the manager's fault
Well we're not creating a lot of chances are we
Well he did sign Lukaku as our main centre forward and seems reluctant to give any other player a chance there. So in a way, yes, it is the managers fault as he has failed to secure a prolific striker during his time here.
Our slow buildup lets teams pack in and park the buss. Our inability to be creative and break teams down means our chances of scoring are very low. We've seemed to regress under Jose this last past year. Compare our current style to how we played under SAF and it's a no briainer why we have a zero GD.
He is right, we do need to be more attacking. We also need to have players who have the balls to take risks, be aggressive and have the hunger to win. Too many are happy to just letting things pass by. And we need a manager who rewards risk takers and does not err on the side of caution.
The other thing I noticed was the genuine lack of game changing options we have on the bench. We really lack a winger or a poacher who can make things happen on his own and change the complexion of the match. That to me, was the highlight of Sir Alex teams, dont give up till the last and have players on the bench who can turn the match on its head by their individual contributuon.
The other thing I noticed was the genuine lack of game changing options we have on the bench. We really lack a winger or a poacher who can make things happen on his own and change the complexion of the match. That to me, was the highlight of Sir Alex teams, dont give up till the last and have players on the bench who can turn the match on its head by their individual contributuon.
A lot of the time he does that he's trying to look for a passing option. Our movement is pretty awful. If our attack is this bad with Pogba being great at creating, just imagine how bad our attack is with our old midfield creativity. Pogba actually masks some of the attacking problems we have.
And we can't blame the players since we changed the team almost completely from Moyes to Mourinho.
Slow build up play is a bit of a myth, chances are mostly created even when the opposition team is settled in their position.
Our biggest problem is that we don't have players who are willing to run with the ball, and we don't have players who are willing to run into space after passing the ball.
So what we end up with is an attack that stays static and largely within their fixed positions - no one is willing to commit a run because they are afraid that we'll lose the ball and they need to sprint back into their defensive position.
What we then default to is lobbing the ball up to Lukaku, even though he's not strong in the air and he prefers the ball to the feet. Or we switch play to the flanks, even though we have no RW, a RB who can't cross and our first choice LW is a shadow of his former self.
Slow buildup play is a poor excuse. City often score great goals from slow build up play because their players are able to score on the counter, and able to create chances from scratch.
He's not having a go at Mourinho, Mourinho alluded to the very same thing but with different words after the game. Stop buying into the media bullshit and then regurgitating it on here.
TBH Im not surprised by some of the comments on here. Have any of you ever read the Manchester United Facebook feed? Truly embarrassing.
TBH Im not surprised by some of the comments on here. Have any of you ever read the Manchester United Facebook feed? Truly embarrassing.
Maybe we should drop him for Rashford as his conversion rate is twice as good as Pogba's?
I think ever since we lost Ronaldo there's been this fear that we can't keep hold of big superstar players, at least the ones that aren't british, but Pogba grew up in the Academy and I think if we became an attractive side that at was at least in the mix to challenge for the two big trophies, he'd be happy to stay.Maybe came to terms with the fact that he was stuck with us for another year.To be honest, unless we would go on to be very successful with him, I always thought he was going to leave us within 3 to 4 years into his contract. Love to be wrong though.
It definitely isn't helpful while Mourinho is still in charge.
I can't disagree with that but maybe the players did talk directly or through their agents.
I'm just tired of this circus and want it done already. We're still in Sep. Imagine 10 more months of this.
As for Pogba as long as he's playing well and doing his job on the pitch, I'm going to endure his quotes till summer comes and see what he'll do.
That is true. However we are really careless when we get chances and at times do not anticipate potential chances. Also I have said before, as have others that I think Jose thought Sanchez was going to provide that moment of genius but he hasn't. He thought that because I suspect he knows Lukaku cannot. It is alright Paul saying this and Jose saying this, but the midfield themselves have to provide a goal threat and they don't. Nothing is functioning properly.
It was actually a good tweet, but I got cringed with this.
Did you get it twisted?
It's not. My opinion is formed from being at the games and seeing the lack of movement. Seeing no gameplan and players just standing in position. It's formed from seeing Lukaku decide to make a run for a change and seeing Pogba pick him out with long or short passes. It's formed from seeing him almost perform as a one man team on Saturday because no one else wanted to take responsibility. While Valencia can get by doing nothing, Being a coward, Pogba is expected to carry the team forwards, defend, score goals and assist. God forbid he loses the ball on halfway, not on the edge of the box.
I'm guessing you don't like the person and this formulates your opinion. I don't have personal issues so I can see the performance without bias.
First, I would like to apologize, as I am a member but just can hardly bring myself to post...as you can tell by the fact I've only posted twice.
I agree that this is probably not the best way to go about complaining about how things are going. It doesn't look well to complain in front of your employer. But even though Pogba has a point, I really thing this should have been discussed in-house.
I would love to stand in a meeting here in D.C. (District of Columbia), and declare, " We need to do better, better, better" Or "I need a raise, raise, raise". Either way, it's disappointing. And I am not defending Mourinho or the style of play at this time.
I have always been a Jose supporter (Embarrassing episodes and hatred of others ignored), but I think I'll reserve judgment until December.
But as a fan, I still hope things will turn.
Try being a Washington Redskin Fan. Last one the Super Bowl in 1991. Record: 177-236. 9 managers. I see Man Utd as a classier organization, at least better than Daniel Snyder.
I just keep feeling like we'll be o.k. Let's see the year out.
I agree that this is probably not the best way to go about complaining about how things are going. It doesn't look well to complain in front of your employer. But even though Pogba has a point, I really thing this should have been discussed in-house.
I would love to stand in a meeting here in D.C. (District of Columbia), and declare, " We need to do better, better, better" Or "I need a raise, raise, raise". Either way, it's disappointing. And I am not defending Mourinho or the style of play at this time.
I have always been a Jose supporter (Embarrassing episodes and hatred of others ignored), but I think I'll reserve judgment until December.
But as a fan, I still hope things will turn.
Try being a Washington Redskin Fan. Last one the Super Bowl in 1991. Record: 177-236. 9 managers. I see Man Utd as a classier organization, at least better than Daniel Snyder.
I just keep feeling like we'll be o.k. Let's see the year out.
Nah, 2 weeks salary every time he makes a dig would see an end to this nonsense.Aye, someone should wheel out the guillotine
It's not about supporting Mourinho. That kind of attitude should not be tolerated from any player. We've had players leaking anonymously to the press before, but openly criticizing the manager is on another level. So, what if we bring in Zidane or Poch and he doesn't like their methods is it still OK to undermine them in the press?
Worst part for Jose must be knowing he cant bench him because the results will get worse and accelerate his dismissal. We'd be loving this circus if we weren't United fans
I’ve repeated my views on this ad nauseum. Both players are managers are employees of the club, neither of them are untouchable. If a manager constantly throws his players under the bus in public, players are well within their rights to do the same, especially when our manager constantly weaves a narrative that everything is the fault of the players and the club CEO, the players have a right to make their views known as well.