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Pogba: "We Should Attack, Attack, Attack!"
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Can't say I blame Jose there. Clearly there's a battle going on there. Only one can win. We'll see what gives...
Pogba thinks he can talk like he’s in the NBA. There isn’t player power in football mate so stay in your lane and get on with it.
You cant just get on with it when you are not enjoying the games. And when United dont win guess whos one of the first players to shoulder the blame?
Erm, a manager vs group of players battle only ends one way and Mourinho is one of the best placed ones to know how it goes given he seems to specialise in it. It'll all depend on how many players side with pogba if shit really hits the fan, 3-4 important first teamers are all it will take for the manager to get sacked. That's just how it goes.
Pogba would have undoubtedly pissed off some players with his post match comments for the second time this season. I don't think players would have much problem siding with Jose on this one.
Doesn't really take that much time to do that, even on me phone. Can only speak for meself tho, dunno how much you would need but judging from your comment, a while.
Well you can't solve a problem without tracing it back to it roots, right?
Again i do condemn his comments made after the Leicester game.
There definitely is. Nothing is done randomly. Whatever happens either him or Jose will leave. Whatever happens, Pogba will win in the end
Awwww are you trying to insult me?
In terms of internet shots, that's an uppercut. I'm on the ropes
I'n bleeding! Have mercy on me you animalWhat would SAF do? Ask yourself this simple question.
Imagine that SAF is the manager and Pogba said "SAF told us to defend but we should attack. But I am not the manager." SAF would probably tell him "I am the manager fecking kid and you are not going to play again." And hit him with a hairdryer or two.
Imagine that SAF is the manager and Pogba said "SAF told us to defend but we should attack. But I am not the manager." SAF would probably tell him "I am the manager fecking kid and you are not going to play again." And hit him with a hairdryer or two.
Agree with this 100%. There seems to be a shift to where players having all the power is the norm.
Saf won't let it reach that situation anyway and sort it in house with the players as a whole. Maybe even accommodate their concerns re playing style.
Saf was damn flexible with players actually. Mourinho is more.rigid.
He could pass it back if there's no one ahead to give it to, then move to another position and get it back, from where he can start an attack. Instead of dribbling two players on his own and risk losing the ball.
Keep Pogba, sack Mourinho. Theres a reason why top clubs sack their managers and dont sell their best players (even if they're being twats).
Sideshow Pog really needs to shut up for a while. Reminds me of Balotelli and his ‘Why always me?’
Can’t just get his head down and do what he’s paid to do. Really is more trouble than he’s worth.
Can’t just get his head down and do what he’s paid to do. Really is more trouble than he’s worth.
Immaturity is to act in a childish manner which only you did. Just because my opinion is different to yours, does not make me immature. Pogba has repeatedly made comments which have undermined his manager. How else do you interpret his comments? The fact about whether you think he is our best player is completely irrelevant - and for the record, he isn't our best player, that is David De Gea. If a player is undermining the manager on a consistent basis you get rid of him. What happens if we get a new manager and Pogba doesn't take a fancy to the new manager? Do you keep sacking managers because Pogba doesn't like them? Its a ridiculous situation. There must be a level of professionalism shown by the players (as in the case in any industry). Pogba has failed on this account.
Based on what you are suggesting Wayne Rooney should have been lynched. And that was at a time when the manager had infinite capital of reputation and trust .
I hope you realize that the supply of world class football players is not infinite. You make things work and compromise . That's how it works in the world of grown ups.
He was and is 100000% correct.
Attack attack...attack!
How can they do that when the manager's primary tactic is "Retreat, Retreat, Retreat"!
He wasn't wrong - Jose is the one that needs to leave
They both need to do one tbf. Sick of the Pogba show. Loved how he timed his exit this game. Everything is for camera’s and the newspapers. He loves creating drama then coming out acting like he doesn’t know why people making a issue. Thinks his smart the prick.
Well seems like the defend, defend, defend tactic has failed again.
Pogba needs to stay quite and concentrate on not losing the ball in the middle of the field and then watching the team concede a goal sitting on his arse.
He really did, didn't he ? One look up to the camera and he was like "let's go guys"
I don't care if it's promoting player power, but Pogba was 100% right.
The line in the briefing, "Jose punished him because no-one is bigger than the club" is pretty disengenous. Because Pogba was talking about respecting the club's tradition. Jose was simply using the club as a shield in his war of words with Pogba, it's really about him. Shows that the briefings were from Jose's camp, well, they backfired big time as he ended up proving Pogba was correct.
The line in the briefing, "Jose punished him because no-one is bigger than the club" is pretty disengenous. Because Pogba was talking about respecting the club's tradition. Jose was simply using the club as a shield in his war of words with Pogba, it's really about him. Shows that the briefings were from Jose's camp, well, they backfired big time as he ended up proving Pogba was correct.
People saying they should both go are living in lala land. Any club deliberately trying to weaken their squad by getting rid of one of their top players deserve to go down.
Enough with this top red attitude bs and it's about time for some people to start leaving with the times. Top teams in situations like these chose to stick with their best players and find alternative solutions even at the cost of managers. In today's age managers are easily expendable, especially when the choice is between them and the club's top investments which happen to be their top players.
Some people need to come back to reality and accept the cold hard truth. If pretending to be some annoying top reds make some feel better than they can have it their ways but they should stop deluding themselves with this idea that we're leaving in their fairy tales
Enough with this top red attitude bs and it's about time for some people to start leaving with the times. Top teams in situations like these chose to stick with their best players and find alternative solutions even at the cost of managers. In today's age managers are easily expendable, especially when the choice is between them and the club's top investments which happen to be their top players.
Some people need to come back to reality and accept the cold hard truth. If pretending to be some annoying top reds make some feel better than they can have it their ways but they should stop deluding themselves with this idea that we're leaving in their fairy tales
Jose just confirmed that he took the vice captaincy off Pogba.
I havent seen yhe quotes in full, but if the message was thst united should attack, where is the issue?
Jose just said about needing to kill a game off.
i dont think a player is above the club, but i think that United is bigger than Jose and i think, begrudgingly, that Jose needs to go. He doesnt seem to be the man for us.
Jose just said about needing to kill a game off.
i dont think a player is above the club, but i think that United is bigger than Jose and i think, begrudgingly, that Jose needs to go. He doesnt seem to be the man for us.
It's not even promoting players power but rather self preservation. Every top club do that not because they want to promote players power but because it's a necessity to keep hold of players while managers are expendable and easy to replace compared to what it'd take to replace a top player. It's that simple.
All these clubs such as Madrid, Chelsea have sacked managers over player alongside many other reasons and they seem to be doing just fine. That's how it work and it also makes sense in a business and financial point of view. That's reality.
Some people on these boards are brainwashed with these childish ideas about these ridiculous stories where clubs should just easily disregard what are the consequences of tossing aside top players/investments jus to uphold some sort of ethos or moral where they have to keep a manager over players no matter what.
Whether he’s right or not is irrelevant. It’s just a constant stream of drama from him.
Similar to Yaya in his pomp, at least Yaya played well and dominated games though.
Similar to Yaya in his pomp, at least Yaya played well and dominated games though.
Don't you see the problem!
Who was the last manager who's players openly criticize him? Mourinho at Chelsea, Hazard went out and said to the press "we are not playing football"
Before that Hazard incident, who was the last manager to lose control of his dressing room and his players openly criticized him, again Mourinho at Real Madrid.
You might want to blame Pogba for that, or his agent, but time and time again this only happens to players when they are managed by Mourinho. Hazard is a good boy now isn't he? He is not the "conspiracy" guy as Mourinho refer to him? So who is at fault?
This is the Mourinho way, I wonder why this type of problems almost never happens to big names in coaching but him. Chelsea fans are still divided because of him, same as Real Madrid fans, that's who he is, that's what he does.
Now all of this would be tolerable if he was building something here, is he?
Who was the last manager who's players openly criticize him? Mourinho at Chelsea, Hazard went out and said to the press "we are not playing football"
Before that Hazard incident, who was the last manager to lose control of his dressing room and his players openly criticized him, again Mourinho at Real Madrid.
You might want to blame Pogba for that, or his agent, but time and time again this only happens to players when they are managed by Mourinho. Hazard is a good boy now isn't he? He is not the "conspiracy" guy as Mourinho refer to him? So who is at fault?
This is the Mourinho way, I wonder why this type of problems almost never happens to big names in coaching but him. Chelsea fans are still divided because of him, same as Real Madrid fans, that's who he is, that's what he does.
Now all of this would be tolerable if he was building something here, is he?
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So he left the game early today, together with Pereira.
Or just moved to another location.
My thoughts exactly. End of the day, Pogba came back to United cos he wanted to be here and he knows what this club is about.
Jose needs to do one, talks smack about the club when it suits him.
You're really, really naive if you think Pogba cares about United or even knows what United is about.
Do you think Mourinho does?
This media piece just feels like Pogba wants Jose to get the sack, sack, sack, otherwise he’s going, going, gone.
Pogba will be gone next year even if we sack Mourinho