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Pogba Future
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Better odds on him consistently showing maturity and leadership than you producing a single quality post.
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I was one of those advocating his exit, mostly because of the reports on his bad influence in the dressing room and his undermining of Ole´s authority. Now we have seen reports that he´s on a strike, trying to force his way out.
All this, ALL this, seems to be totally BS - and Ole seems to be right that there really is an agenda against Pogba in the media. With both Ole and Mata praising Pogba´s positive influence in the dressing room, I have totally changed my mind about him, and I apologise that I´ve fallen for rubbish in the media. No wonder Pogba wanted to leave, when the fans are booing him.
Give him some love and Pogba will trive. With him instead of Matic (and his buddy for Mata), Milan would have been trashed.
Edit: interesting to read Evra´s take on it: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/patrice-evra-suggests-paul-pogba-18825516
Everyone going to Old Trafford, please make Pogba wanna stay!
All this, ALL this, seems to be totally BS - and Ole seems to be right that there really is an agenda against Pogba in the media. With both Ole and Mata praising Pogba´s positive influence in the dressing room, I have totally changed my mind about him, and I apologise that I´ve fallen for rubbish in the media. No wonder Pogba wanted to leave, when the fans are booing him.
Give him some love and Pogba will trive. With him instead of Matic (and his buddy for Mata), Milan would have been trashed.
Edit: interesting to read Evra´s take on it: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/patrice-evra-suggests-paul-pogba-18825516
Everyone going to Old Trafford, please make Pogba wanna stay!
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I’d say he’ll show about as much maturity as his Red Cafe fanclub.
Lets hope and pray we do keep hold of our scapegoat otherwise who the hell do we blame when it all goes pear shaped next season, heaven forbid we would have to pin anything on Matic or Mata or Lingard or Martial or Fred or Jones or Smalling or any of the other players that do naff all.
What are you on about? Do you honestly believe nobody bitches about these players? They get abuse every day on here.
Not the level of Pogba, not in the media and not in the stands either, Pogba was the one who got abused by fans in the Streford End of last season.
Who gives a feck about the media. You said 'we'. The rest get plenty of stick from the stands. Pogba just happened to interact with them last season. You just have to search the names of the others on here and see the amount of vitriol directed towards them.
He was ball watching when his man ran past him and scored or created, and we lost top 4.
We don't have to keep him at all cost but Simon Stone made it very clear someone'd have to pay the money if Pogba was to leave.
And AFAIK no one paying 150m for him. We hold all the card, what his pizza baker going to do?
And AFAIK no one paying 150m for him. We hold all the card, what his pizza baker going to do?
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There is definitely an undercurrent to the Pogba scenario
After the very open dialogue from his agent before the tour to complete radio silence tells you they were instructed to keep quiet
I think that Madrid thought that they were able to free up funds from Bale/James etc but they’ve not been able to do so so far - also dont think all well in the RM camp and not everyone so keen as ZZ on Pogba
Based on our ability to negotiate and facilitate a transfer I don’t believe that there is enough time for anything to happen now with Pogba - it will be an almighty effort for us to complete another transfer beyond the Maguire deal based on how slow we are - our bandwidth will be 100% throttled out on Lukaku/Dybala this week with no certainty that this will come to fruition
It will be interesting to hear the noises from Mino etc over the next few days though - maybe Friday we hear Pogba signs a new improved contract - and all the same shit will start again next spring....
After the very open dialogue from his agent before the tour to complete radio silence tells you they were instructed to keep quiet
I think that Madrid thought that they were able to free up funds from Bale/James etc but they’ve not been able to do so so far - also dont think all well in the RM camp and not everyone so keen as ZZ on Pogba
Based on our ability to negotiate and facilitate a transfer I don’t believe that there is enough time for anything to happen now with Pogba - it will be an almighty effort for us to complete another transfer beyond the Maguire deal based on how slow we are - our bandwidth will be 100% throttled out on Lukaku/Dybala this week with no certainty that this will come to fruition
It will be interesting to hear the noises from Mino etc over the next few days though - maybe Friday we hear Pogba signs a new improved contract - and all the same shit will start again next spring....
Agree. Judging from events around us, it seems Pogba will stay simply because Real do not have the funds for the transfer right now.
If he does leave, it will be next season, if Zidane is still around and if they can gather enough funds.
Hopefully he won't have a negative impact on the squad this season and can stay professional enough to contribute to a title challenge in the meantime.
If he does leave, it will be next season, if Zidane is still around and if they can gather enough funds.
Hopefully he won't have a negative impact on the squad this season and can stay professional enough to contribute to a title challenge in the meantime.
Be funny if Pogba engineered a move to Madrid, then they sacked Zidane, & brought in Mourinho. Deja Vu.
By ONE fan
I reckon that there is a strong possibility that Mourinho may be lurking in the wings at RM - if RM start badly or just off the Barca pace would be really interesting to see how things pan out - maybe that’s why Perez is holding off all out Pogba attack as if he had Pogba and then Mourinho came in it would certainly be interesting!
Those 2 egos (3 if you count the agent) can’t be together again!
I don't think the midfield is all that bad to be honest, better with Pogba in it? of course without a doubt, but with 1 key addition I think it will be very functional. I can see Ole utilizing a top heavy approach that bypasses a lot of possession in the middle anyway and plays fast counter attacking football with out and out speed.
I am sure there is some element of agenda against him in the media or at least some element of media bias, but he and his agent have to be accountable for their own words and actions.
I am sure there is some element of agenda against him in the media or at least some element of media bias, but he and his agent have to be accountable for their own words and actions.
Mourinho actually brought to light that there was a media agenda against Paul when he defended him numerous times, fans have since bought into the agenda which means they are siding with the likes of Souness.
I have said before I don't think Pogba wants to go I just think he wants United to show the ambition he has. I think his agent is using the agenda as a way to line his own pocket by getting in his head about moving on.
Real Madrid, back to Juventus?
He's a good player, but he strikes me as the kind of person that will just sulk and be a bad influence in the dressing room if he's forced to stay.
Nonody is paying what United want for him.
What if Mourinho was brought in and then decides he want to buy Pogba? Does Pogba smile and go there then? It would certainly feel like they betrayed the club if they wanted to work through their differences at a club with "ambitions" while they fecked our chances by creating stupid drama. Obviously this can't happen.
I don't get Pogba. He gets everything he wants at the club and still want out. We undermined a manager when they fell out to keep him at the club and he wants to leave.
News that RM are in discussions to sign Ajax Donny van de Beek is very encouraging.....
That must mean that they know that they cannot get Pogba or there are concerns over ZZ - it would be quite damning for ZZ as well as he wanted Pogba and not VDB
Defo think Pogba will be signing a new improved contract later this week now!
That must mean that they know that they cannot get Pogba or there are concerns over ZZ - it would be quite damning for ZZ as well as he wanted Pogba and not VDB
Defo think Pogba will be signing a new improved contract later this week now!
Pogba played in a closed doors match against Blackburn today. That and the fact Madrid are in for Van De Beek would mean he is staying. New contract coming i reckon.
It might be wise to temper any excitement about the prospect of Pogba staying (or even signing a new contract) until we see whether or not he's capable of improving his performances.
Ye of little faith.
I think if that one fan was abusing a different player, fans would have reacted to the fan. It was telling that everyone stood and watched. Allowed it to happen. I'd wager most fans around it agreed with the abuse. It's a shame because while everyone deserves criticism for last season, Pogba doesn't deserve abuse and further it doesn't help us at all. He's been better than most of our players since he resigned yet he's held up as the poster boy of our failure.
Sure others get criticism but Pogba gets abused. I'm not surprised he feels unloved because he isn't loved at United. Martial is more loved, I like martial and rate martial.....but how is that possible ?
Pogba had a one to one with Mejbri while he was having his medical, he urged the youngster to work hard and join him in the first team. Doesn't sound like someone who is either sulking or wanting out.
How did you find this out?
This seems to be the reputation that the media has created for him. All the noise coming out of the club and from people who know him, he seems to be the opposite.
the 'No''s win this thread. willing to swap our best player for Dybala while in reality we may wind up only needing to swap Lukaku.
Don't worry Jose, it's not true. We know he is the true virus.
Fake news mate, doesn't fit the agenda.
Just about all the current and former teammates who have spoken about it publicly have said the opposite but the media has an agenda and the narrative prevails. He's become the new whipping boy now that don't have Sterling anymore
Ashley Young was booed on the pre season tour
Could all be put to bed if Pogba just made a statement that he is staying. Why does Ole have to keep fighting his corner. Yes hes the manager and should back players but the player can also say something.
Have you ever known that to happen?Why does a player have to respond to media rubbish?
Maybe the club has told Pogba just to shut up for once and let the management deal with it.