Gaming PlayStation 5

I see they also put the controller prices up a bit as well.

Guess Concord crashing had to be paid for.
 
Maybe the expectation is that by 2026 the base models won’t be able to deliver 60fps for the AAA titles. 600 dollars is still understandable but 700 without a stand or disk drive is pure madness
They're already not delivering 60 fps in some AAA titles. Dragon's Dogma 2 comes to mind, Final Fantasy 16 was all over the place in performance mode and I imagine it's not going to get any better. There's virtually zero chance that GTA 6 will have a 60 fps mode on base PS5 and Series X.
 
They're already not delivering 60 fps in some AAA titles. Dragon's Dogma 2 comes to mind, Final Fantasy 16 was all over the place in performance mode and I imagine it's not going to get any better. There's virtually zero chance that GTA 6 will have a 60 fps mode on base PS5 and Series X.
I think some of that is just poor optimisation. I meant I think Alan Wake and Avatar look much better than FF16 (as does FF7?) and run smoothly. I think 2026 will be a good time for me to consider the Pro - I’m anyway 2 years behind the gaming cycle and by then the base PS5 will probably be struggling a bit.
 
They're already not delivering 60 fps in some AAA titles. Dragon's Dogma 2 comes to mind, Final Fantasy 16 was all over the place in performance mode and I imagine it's not going to get any better. There's virtually zero chance that GTA 6 will have a 60 fps mode on base PS5 and Series X.

If that's the case, GTA 6 is realistically Sony's only hope of moving this machine. Then again, I have friends who own consoles that barely believe 60fps is even a real thing, they just don't care. Then you'll get some people that'll go down the budget PC route instead. Mainly those who are pissed off with Sony's cash grabs at this point.
 
If that's the case, GTA 6 is realistically Sony's only hope of moving this machine. Then again, I have friends who own consoles that barely believe 60fps is even a real thing, they just don't care. Then you'll get some people that'll go down the budget PC route instead. Mainly those who are pissed off with Sony's cash grabs at this point.
That’s odd. I just can’t go back to 30fps now.
 
They're already not delivering 60 fps in some AAA titles. Dragon's Dogma 2 comes to mind, Final Fantasy 16 was all over the place in performance mode and I imagine it's not going to get any better. There's virtually zero chance that GTA 6 will have a 60 fps mode on base PS5 and Series X.

Dragons dogma 2 has been patched I think. I got it about a month ago and it is regularly over 100fps now, capped at 120 and falls no lower than 48fps from what I have seen.

I do have vrr on though which I think helps smooth frame drops, but generally I have had no issues I can remember at all frame rate wise.
 
It's odd, but true. One of them is playing through RDR2 in 30fps on PS5 at the moment.
I refuse to pick that game up again! 30fps is ugly, just patch it but no doubt they’ll try and extort money from us all.
 
I refuse to pick that game up again! 30fps is ugly, just patch it but no doubt they’ll try and extort money from us all.

Agreed. RDR2 was actually one of the main reasons I primarily moved to PC. Waiting around for "patches" or developers extorting money as you say becomes a frustration. Not like it couldn't run at 60fps on base PS5 with the right optimization either.
 
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If that's the case, GTA 6 is realistically Sony's only hope of moving this machine. Then again, I have friends who own consoles that barely believe 60fps is even a real thing, they just don't care. Then you'll get some people that'll go down the budget PC route instead. Mainly those who are pissed off with Sony's cash grabs at this point.

GTA 6 will probably get rereleased on ps6 and be even better
Have already seen some rumours that GTA6 might slip to 2026 as it is.
 
Ok, I might have mad a mistake by selling my PS5, already!. I expected the Pro to be £600 not £700. I also thought for £700 then it will come with the stand. Just going to have to take the price on the chin.
 
I guess as it’s 700 dollars plus tax.

They usually do 1:1 exchange these days as it equals out sort of.
Yeah, US price does not include VAT. Even taking that into account, in the UK, we're still being overcharged by like £50.
 
I'm not in any way saying that the pricing is justifiable for the lack of innovation. I definitely see no reason to buy one, my PS5 sees little use as is (no great games, playing almost anything on PC).

But I'm surprised about the number of people here and on reddit commenting about the lack of a disc drive. Are you guys still buying most of your games in disc form? For those who are, can I inquire as to why? From the stats I thought that digital game purchases were well into 60%+ of the mix, but anecdotally it doesn't seem to be lining up.
In the UK, and EU you can get physical games cheaper than digital due there being competition online and in store. Digital you are locked to the closed eco system. Sony don't even allow digital keys of games to be sold via 3rd parties.

And of course, you can resell your physical games on if you like.
 
In the UK, and EU you can get physical games cheaper than digital due there being competition online and in store. Digital you are locked to the closed eco system. Sony don't even allow digital keys of games to be sold via 3rd parties.

And of course, you can resell your physical games on if you like.

To say nothing that it's a machine priced more at the enthusiast market who will probably also be people that are collectors of things like physical games.
 
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Ok, I might have mad a mistake by selling my PS5, already!. I expected the Pro to be £600 not £700. I also thought for £700 then it will come with the stand. Just going to have to take the price on the chin.
This is quite a clever idea of overspending on things you want to buy :lol:
 
I'm not in any way saying that the pricing is justifiable for the lack of innovation. I definitely see no reason to buy one, my PS5 sees little use as is (no great games, playing almost anything on PC).

But I'm surprised about the number of people here and on reddit commenting about the lack of a disc drive. Are you guys still buying most of your games in disc form? For those who are, can I inquire as to why? From the stats I thought that digital game purchases were well into 60%+ of the mix, but anecdotally it doesn't seem to be lining up.

A lot of games now don't really have a lot of replay value to them and the introduction with PS Plus means that a lot of games I play end up digital anyway. I like to blast through games with a platinum and then trading them in. Means I am perhaps spending £30 max for a game at a time rather than the £60 or £70 that it is digital.
 
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This is quite a clever idea of overspending on things you want to buy :lol:
I even bought the disc drive in prep! Digital foundry suggested it might well sell out after the pro reveal. I've checked and it is sold out in a few places. So, I might have been correct on that call.
 
I even bought the disc drive in prep! Digital foundry suggested it might well sell out after the pro reveal. I've checked and it is sold out in a few places. So, I might have been correct on that call.
Yup, sold out here as well, which pretty much confirms that the PS5 Pro is going to sell out as well, even at that price. I guess that's just how things are these days.
 
Yup, sold out here as well, which pretty much confirms that the PS5 Pro is going to sell out as well, even at that price. I guess that's just how things are these days.
No doubt the pro will sell out, at first. Long term, it'll probably sell less than the PS4 pro, though.
 
I have no fecking clue what is going on with conversion rates anymore. So it's $699 which converts to roughly €635, yet the actual price over here is an utterly insane €799. In pounds it looks even worse. I get that you can't always just convert stuff, but this is an aboslute shocking price difference. How on earth do they expect this thing to sell in Europe and the UK?
They add VAT after. If tax is 15% over there it will be $803.
 
No doubt the pro will sell out, at first. Long term, it'll probably sell less than the PS4 pro, though.

I don't think there's any doubt it will sell less, unless Sony have a big title or two up their sleeve that looks and plays significantly better on the pro and does things the base model version can't. Given the power difference, that's highly doubtful. Also, even if these titles exists, selling that to the average console consumer sounds near impossible seeing as most aren't into technicalies. They just want to play new games.
 
They're probably banking on GTA 6 selling it. Nothing else will move this thing to the average consumer. Even at that, will people bother if it runs acceptably at 60fps on base PS5? I just don't know who they're targeting here. Nobody is being boxed into a corner to invest in this machine.
The average consumer will never spend £700 on a console for one game. Even for GTA6. Unless it runs like complete ass on PS5, but I find that hard to imagine. Base PS5 will be where the majority of their playerbase will be playing on release. They have to make sure it runs well on that machine.

The Pro is aimed at giga enthusiasts. The price is getting too close to what you would spend on a decent PC, though. I'm finding it very hard to see how this does well.
 
Well. I'm probably going to bite the bullet. I'm a PC guy, but GTA 6 and getting FIFA back on the big TV will probably provide more than enough hours of entertainment to justify this.
 
GTA 6 will probably run at 30fps on the pro as well as the base consoles! The CPU on the pro has hardly been touched.

If Xbox conosles were not on life support I actually think GTA 6 would give the Series S a real boost. But the series consoles are cooked. As the kids, say.
 
The UK price might adjust down sooner or later.

Sony's very own PS5 digital is about £380 UK and $450 in the US. It's just a presentation slide, people then start throwing a fit over one to one conversions each time these things are presented. Euro to dollar factoring EU vat works out 1-1 these days, EU PS5 is about 450euro so again expect the EU Pro price to shift down. There's a lot of varying VAT and other factors they have to work on.

If you do a base conversion of the current PS5, a $450 US PS5 works out to £344, then add on 20% VAT it works out to £412, so UK rip off Britain rant Brexit rant is getting a good deal.

Also don't forget is some US states they have high sales tax as well so someone over there will paying close to $800
 
GTA 6 will probably run at 30fps on the pro as well as the base consoles! The CPU on the pro has hardly been touched.

If Xbox conosles were not on life support I actually think GTA 6 would give the Series S a real boost. But the series consoles are cooked. As the kids, say.
Of course – otherwise how are they going to sell the PS6 version of the game??? :)
 
Madness that PS5 Pro price. Glad I’ve kept with my original PS5 that I’ve had since day one and still runs so good without any issues.

That price for the PS5 Pro makes me think that it won’t be any surprise that the PS6 could end up being the first console to cost as close to or even exceed £1K.