Think his point was more about perspective...
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For those on iOS devices who can't see that video, I'm presuming it's this video, actually this may be a different video
Looks amazing
No not that video, it's on there official facebook page. Scotland Chase i think it's called.
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Who cares, Drive Club is only 30fps anyway. Forza is 60fps.
So Drive Club must be shit. 30fps 30fps 30fps
Who cares, Drive Club is only 30fps anyway. Forza is 60fps.
So Drive Club must be shit. 30fps 30fps 30fps
Gran Turismo 6 on a PS3 looks better than Forza 5.
White text dude.
I massively disagree though from the comparisons I've seen, but whatever. It doesn't concern me, I was just trolling Weaste style on the drive club thing.
I couldn't be bothered to white text back, my sarcasm doesn't come across well it seems.
Or at least comparable... which is crazy when you think about it
You don't know the framerate of Driveclub for starters. It might get locked at 30, it might not. It's doing one hell of a lot more than Forza is though which is covered in baked lighting and looks to have aliasing problems.
I don't know why you are even comparing it to Forza, it's not a simulation racer. Why was Forza Horizons 30fps and not 60fps like the numbered Forza Motorsport titles?
I was taking the piss out of your backward thinking that graphics/resolution/frame rate makes a game better. I said only a few posts before that it's looking much better.
Because it's open world? Or perhaps because it was developed by multiple studios and not purely Turn 10?
TotalBiscuit's (popular YouTube and gaming channel/Stream) console broke today, his disc drive stopped working, a few guys over on another forum posted pics of their bricked and overheated consoles....they say the failure rate is normal I call bullshit there's way too many reports even from people within the industry having broken consoles.
The main reports are coming from Amazon, it seems they have a massive batch of dodgy consoles.
The main reports are coming from Amazon, it seems they have a massive batch of dodgy consoles.
Sooo... a million sold, approx 50,000 bricked or faulty consoles would be what... normal? So what would you say is way too many? and where is the evidence of this? Just saying/asking...
I'm not even gonna say I feel for him/you/whoever... you buy one of the first made you take that risk.
I'm not even gonna say I feel for him/you/whoever... you buy one of the first made you take that risk.
There's just too many popular sites/channels getting bricked/faulty consoles along with the general public, iv never known any product be faulty by so many well known sources. Nobody knows the numbers for sure so it's impossible to post evidence but my gut feeling says it's well over the average.
A lot of players consoles are working fine but are reported to be overheating, give it 2 weeks and those consoles will be fecked as well.
A lot of players consoles are working fine but are reported to be overheating, give it 2 weeks and those consoles will be fecked as well.
I'm going to need more than your gut feeling to call it anything other than normal... as widespread as it may seem (to you guys, not so much to me). Even 10,000 (or what seems like) cases will make me take this a bit more seriously... it's like those hotel reviews where you get a batch of terrible reviews because a few people had a bad experience, you get there and you find out they were isolated cases and it's an excellent hotel, you get home and you don't bother to right a review to redress the balance.
Perspective... let's wait and see.
Perspective... let's wait and see.
Yeah, I think that the hardware numbers could be normal. We don't really have the data to assume anything more/less at this point.
I'm more inclined to have concerns over the amount of thumbsticks where the rubber is tearing though, since that applies to every dualshock sold and will only increase over time. It isn't a case of some people getting faulty controllers, it's just simple wear and tear.
Obviously, that's far less of a big deal, and you could just buy those sticks that you can add to them, but it's still a shame when the controller otherwhise seems much improved on the DS3.
I'm more inclined to have concerns over the amount of thumbsticks where the rubber is tearing though, since that applies to every dualshock sold and will only increase over time. It isn't a case of some people getting faulty controllers, it's just simple wear and tear.
Obviously, that's far less of a big deal, and you could just buy those sticks that you can add to them, but it's still a shame when the controller otherwhise seems much improved on the DS3.
You shouldn't have to buy new thumbsticks, that's something they need to sort out if that's the case... My DS3's are still going strong.
I think they definitely are cause for concern. A lot of people complaining - obviously you could say the same as to the faulty hardware, 'if it doesn't work they will moan, if it does they'll keep quiet'. But since every controller is exactly the same, and we're not even a week into the launch yet, it's pretty clear that the thumbsticks are vulnerable.
Why are we assuming "every thumb stick is exactly the same", but not every console? I mean obviously a PS4 is infinitely more complex than a thumbstick, but its there some unwritten rule of products I dont know about?
Also, this 5% of goods beind faulty rule may or may not be correct, but its pretty terrible if so. Whatever happened to quality control? Or is that simply to tell where a higher percentage of goods are being created faulty.?
Also, this 5% of goods beind faulty rule may or may not be correct, but its pretty terrible if so. Whatever happened to quality control? Or is that simply to tell where a higher percentage of goods are being created faulty.?
Backwards thinking? Alock, they do make it better, and to be quite blunt you are an absolute fecking idiot to think otherwise, a total deluded fool! feck off and play games on a SEGA Master System you tool!
One game isn't better than another purely based on it's resolution/fps/graphics mate. That's where we disagree, but you're completely obsessed with it.
I'm open to the possibility that it's issues with the hardware in general and not just faulty part - but there hasn't been sufficient evidence to come to that conclusion.
It's the same thing again, the XBox appologists trying to blow everything out of proportion. There are far more reports saying that they are fine than there are saying that there is a problem, and the vast majority of people without a problem won't be saying anything.
As for your second point, it's an average failure rate for mass produced consumer electronics, and the faults can happen in a variety of ways from sourced component faults, assembly line faults, problems during shipping, problems during storage (eg. environmental issues such as humidity, etc.), down to misuse on the part of the user. It also happens in almost every industry, it has nothing to do with the lack of quality control as issues might not always be apparent when the products leave the assembly line, no matter how hard you test the things - thus other reasons for failure. As an example:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24940238
Pretty terrible eh?
The car recall rate is pretty terrible.
Why do you think that might be?
A hundred reasons. Ever more complicated cars which should be rights of inflation from the 80's cost at least twice as much as they do, instead use cheaper labour from foreign markets...
I dont care for the reason Weaste, I was just pointing out this weird truth we have already accepted.
Things might be getting blown out of proportion, but I'm not really sure it's fair to blame this on Xbox apologists. Generally, it seems to be people who've got one and are experiencing issues, or people who were planning to get one and are no longer confident in the purchase.
How many cars do VW sell a year? 10 million?
Is the point just that it happens to everybody, even(?) VW?
Is the point just that it happens to everybody, even(?) VW?
I think its just been in the news (very) recently. All car makers (Toyota being the worst) have had millions of recalls in recent years. So yeah, I think Weaste means it happens to everyone.
I think what everyone is saying is correct, we need some numbers before we declare the PS4 a failure.
Did anyone expect anything different? We're talking about cutting edge technology that's been mass-produced and squeezed into a tiny but aesthetically box, during an era where overheating is arguably the primary cause for most electronic hardware faults. This was always going to happen, and it'll be the same with the XBone.
It's the reason I'm not an early adopter. It's always wise to step back and wait for the teething problems to sort themselves out before you buy one system or another.
It's the reason I'm not an early adopter. It's always wise to step back and wait for the teething problems to sort themselves out before you buy one system or another.
I don't know if this has already been posted, though I hadn't seen it before today. I cannot wait to get Watch Dogs when I eventually get my PS4 - it looks awesome!
Seems as if it is a combination of GTA, with some of the free-roaming features of Assassins Creed, and shooting sections somewhat similar to Uncharted and all brought together with a completely original and unique story and set of characters.
Seems as if it is a combination of GTA, with some of the free-roaming features of Assassins Creed, and shooting sections somewhat similar to Uncharted and all brought together with a completely original and unique story and set of characters.
Watch Dogs isn't out until at least June and possibly not even next year knowing them.
I don't know if this has already been posted, though I hadn't seen it before today. I cannot wait to get Watch Dogs when I eventually get my PS4 - it looks awesome!
Seems as if it is a combination of GTA, with some of the free-roaming features of Assassins Creed, and shooting sections somewhat similar to Uncharted and all brought together with a completely original and unique story and set of characters.
I'm looking forward to jumping into friends games without them knowing and playing a bit of cat and mouse
I'm not in a rush for it since I probably won't pick up a PS4 until July/August next year anyway.
If a delay means the final version is a better game then it's well worth it of course, as long as they don't go to GT5 lengths of perfecting the game.
Failure rates are something that most manifactures try at all cost to prevent, but a failure rate of 3-7% is what they would call "normal", under 5% is little, over 5% is something they will look into but all in all 5% for a new product would be a very good result! This pic shows last next gen consoles:
Data source:Square Trade
This is tablet of 3-4 year old products and the repair rates since 2006:
Data source: Consumer Reports
Computers have rates way higher than other electronics so a release of a new "computer" with the PS4 and XBOX1 being computers a fail rate of 5% would be a success!
Good post. Also:
How serious are the PS4's Blue Light of Death and broken hardware reports?
"Seemingly isolated issues frustrate thousands of consumers."
How serious are the PS4's Blue Light of Death and broken hardware reports?
"Seemingly isolated issues frustrate thousands of consumers."
The hysterics over this on display are really quite funny. Even if you are unlucky enough to get a dud unit, it's not as if you've lost any money. Either take it back to the shop you bought it from and get a refund or simply send it to Sony and wait a couple of weeks to get a fixed or replacement unit. I can understand that people will be a little disappointed, but fecking hell what happened to patience? For some it's like the end of the world; it's a game console FFS! Amazing how so many adults all of a sudden start acting like spilt little brats and start chucking a tantrum and getting "worried". Worried? Worried for what? This type of thing only becomes really disappointing when it happens in the context of being for a child as a gift for a birthday or Christmas, as it's understandable that children get upset over such things; they are children after all. As for the disappointment of not being able to play it for a couple of weeks while waiting for the repair, should Europeans be upset that we have to wait two weeks to even get it? Should the Japanese be upset because they have to wait 3 months to get it? Boo hoo hoo!
I believe that knowledge should be free to everyone at the same instance... why would a rich "kid" be able to play a beauty like Uncharted 2 whereas a "poor" one cannot really afford it? Why do they they sell games at the same price around the world irrespective of the cost of living. I do respect intellectual property but I also refuse categorically to be running in a race with a handicap such as the lack of money.
I hope Watch Dogs doesn't become the next Assassins Creed, with pointless sequels coming out year after year. There's something to be said for games like Half-Life that make you appreciate the game when it eventually arrives