I kind of agree with you but for many of us (myself included) we prefer the 'safety' of a console in that you plug in the game and go. There are many variables with PC gaming that a lot of people don't want hassle with. "can my rig play this?".
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Yeah. It's a difficult one. Obviously it's best to avoid is as much as possible, but competitive players will get the Pro anyway.
You paying for a so called pro console, so you expect benefits. That's the whole benefit of releasing a so called pro console. I mean even in a game like Bloodborne you won't be allowed to benefit. How silly is that?
Just like when MS release a pro controller you expect to see benefits. Whether it's online or offline.
I don't see how it's going to make it worse. At the end of the day for online gaming latency is the most important thing. Do you think everyone that goes online has the same latency?
If you don't like what you will be getting then don't buy it, I won't be. But imo having a level playing field in multiplayer is the last thing I'd be complaining about...
Not sure about that. All prices from Amazon:
Graphics Cards
GTX 1080 - £660
GTX 1070 - £420
GTX 980 - £430
GTX 970 - £210
CPUs
i5-6600K - £220
i5-6400 - £160
i5-4690K - £220
i5-4400 - £160
Motherboards
LGA 1151 Motherboard - Ranging from £50 to £200
LGA 1150 Motherboard - Ranging from £50 to £200
RAM
£16 GB usually about £70
Case, Cooler, PSU, etc not included.
To stay on the cutting edge, you obviously end up spending quite a lot of money... But that's not a like for like comparison. Once you have a decent PC, you can obviously keep it capable of playing newer games, pretty much by upgrading the graphics card and selling the old one. But you can do the same with your console.
The thing is, your initial outlay on a gaming PC is going to be a lot higher than a console. Buying new, an LGA 1150 motherboard, a decent graphics card, a decent CPU and everything else is at least going to cost £500.
Of course you can do slightly crazy things like buy old server parts to get the max bang for your buck.. but it's not super simple simon.
Im sure otherwise will disagree
No they don't but they still play games to a pretty decent level. The PS4's CPU is something out of a chromebook. Try to play Tomb Raider on a Chromebook.
Okay, even taking that into account I'm not being fair, because there are worse CPUs and GPUs that can play Tomb Raider or any PS4 game than I have shown. But even taking that into account, it can be hard to beat the value of a Playstation.
I'm trying to build a mini ITX PC (because I hate my massive gaming PC) at the moment, one for my and one for my sister. The case's I'm looking at at nearly £50.
Everything is quite expensive with PC Gaming. I don't believe there is better value there, although it's obviously a better experience at the top end.
£50? That's cheap... try one of these: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian-li-pc-y6b-odyssey-yacht-mini-itx-case-black-ca-74h-ll.html
Oh my god I must have it.
I'm about to order one, want 2, one white and one black, one for HTPC and one for gaming. Just registered to OC and waiting activation to post on the forums for help about what to put inside each.
The thing about PC gaming is that there's a lot of fuss involved. You need to actually have a clue about graphics cards, processors etc., you need to upgrade your hardware, update system etc. A casual gamer like me who likes to just play in his spare time without dedicating themselves to gaming will not fancy going through all that to get better graphics and slightly higher frame rate when they can simply get the PS4 box and play instantly.
Eh, I don't feel like there's big pressure to upgrade. Of course the Pro will be better but not having a 4k TV among other things I don't feel I'll be left behind. Plenty of others in similar position.
The Scorpio on the other hand will have that feeling of upgrade or be left behind due to the much larger increase in teraflops (1.31 > 6 which is 4.6x the number compared to 1.84 > 4.2 which is 2.3x the number for PS4) among other things. PS4 to PS4 Pro will still have a large jump but Scorpio has that feeling of a big enough jump to essentially be a new generation. Don't get that feeling with the PS4 Pro.
Are you joking?
I mean, it's cool as feck.
No jokes, I really want one... well 2. I'd probably go for one of each colour but wouldn't know what to do with the 3rd one, actually can't decide between silver or white for the 2nd one at the moment.
Yeah. I mean even my favourite game - Kerbal Space Program - with the best thing about PC Gaming - Mods - sucks... because the mods constantly break and I can never get them quite right. I spend more time fixing mods than gaming
For casual gaming, consoles win hand down. But PC gaming will always be that bit better. And thats fine!
About what? I've bought neither a PS4 nor Xbone for this very reason. Turns out my hunch was right and it was best to wait.
You must be confusing me with Weaste, I love new machines. Not so much the last two, but they were always turds in my eyes that needed upgrading or replacing sooner rather than later. When we go full streaming will be a sad time, but things do move on.
Ah, maybe. I mean I think you don't like the disparity between consoles and PC's... consoles lagging behind drastically? These "half" upgrades, will only make this worse.
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sony should focus more on giving better frames and quality on 1080 then advertising a fake 4k witch will struggle at 24 fps
If an idiot like me can do it, anyone can.
It's not even about ability to do this, it's about wanting to consider all this additional stuff. Also, when moving from PS4 to PC you miss out on some exclusives - admittedly there aren't that many of them these days but still. The good old days of console exclusives are gone though, until Rockstar release their next game and announce that PC version will be two years late.
The problem isn't so much the lagging behind, let's face it for cooling reasons alone they will always be behind, but I just didn't like the make up of either machine. They are basically AMD laptops and neither appealed to me.
In any case, I always knew this would happen, so I waited. Tbf I haven't missed much either, so depressingly this is a generation where I could afford to hold back gaming wise.
Am I against short term upgrades? I guess I am. However, considering the future is streaming and that's why we are in this situation, I can't help at least be glad there is new hardware at all. Even if, once again, both will be behind the curve.
Considering how well GTA V sold on PC. Also how these consoles are similar to PCs in terms of developing, I would be surprised if the next Rockstar game is delayed on PC.
The only logical reason would be that they want people to double dip again.
Red Dead 3 - PS4/Xbox One - 2017
Red Dead 3 - PC - 2018
GTA VIce - PS4/Xbox One - 2018
GTA VIce - PC - 2019
GTA VIce - PS5/Xbox Two - 2020
They are bastards. Although I'm certain Xbox Two will be backwards compatible, and Sony will probably have to follow suit, so that might mitigate the need for a GTA VIce on PS5.
So what have you been doing in the interim then? My PS4 has had as much use as my PS3 and XB360 got, shit loads. Minor gripes aside I can't say I'm anywhere close to regretting buying it at launch. It's been solid...
There were rumours that PS4 games would work with neo. Any confirmation on that?
All PS4 games will run on Pro. It's the same console only slightly more powerful.
Right so a friend of mine who uses the PS4 wants to upgrade, although he doesn't really know what's going on.
what is more important right now. 4k or HDR? I assume you cannot get a HDR TV that isn't 4k.
He has a 4k TV, but it's a few year old, not sure on the model number, but if he only has 4k but it isn't HDR, is it even worth upgrading?
what is more important right now. 4k or HDR? I assume you cannot get a HDR TV that isn't 4k.
He has a 4k TV, but it's a few year old, not sure on the model number, but if he only has 4k but it isn't HDR, is it even worth upgrading?
I played through the mass effect series in 4k @ 60fps and it was a joy to behold.
The thing with the PS Pro though is that games won't be native 4k rather upscaled so it won't look as good.
He's better off waiting for reviews.
Thanks.... So it's not actually 4k. Just seems quite strange.
To advertise it as 4k this and 4k that, but not actually be 4k is poor.
I need to know more about FPS etc. I just buy the console (xbox though) and expect it to be better than the last model
Not worth upgrading just for the PS Pro. HDR is more important in most instances, but it's not always implemented.
Btw Mass Effect Andromeda has been confirmed as 30fps for both PS4 consoles. Not that is surprising with a Bioware console game.
Thanks.... So it's not actually 4k. Just seems quite strange.
To advertise it as 4k this and 4k that, but not actually be 4k is poor.
I need to know more about FPS etc. I just buy the console (xbox though) and expect it to be better than the last model
The Last of Us is the only known game thus far that will have a native 4k/30fps option.
I'd take a good stable frame rate over graphics and graphics over resolution. But I guess that's not as sexy as having a 4k image, even if it's running medium graphics at a choppy 25 to 30 fps.
Ratchet and Clank on the PS4 Pro?? Oh my lord! I resisted the temptation to get the PS4 when it was released and glad that I waited. I know what I'll be getting in January.
think I'll be waiting until the new year to upgrade to the Pro, don't have a 4K telly so in no rush after diving into the PS4 on release day and seeing the price reductions and bundle deals a few months later was annoying.
Really hope i have the will power to not go for this
But Im a sucker when new shiny things get released even though it wont do anything good for me
Wish Nintendo would swoop in now and impress me enough to get the NX instead
But Im a sucker when new shiny things get released even though it wont do anything good for me
Wish Nintendo would swoop in now and impress me enough to get the NX instead
You getting the VR headset?
in a similar boat
Right now, no I dont think so
On the day before release I might get sold. Im weak minded