Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang | Orny says deal to Arsenal dependent on Dortmund getting replacement

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I'm just wondering what Lacazette is thinking about all this. He doesnt strike me as a happy to be here bloke. Might not be that far of a stretch to think he may end up at Spurs if they sell Kane?
 
Someone on Twitter spotted Aubameyang's car in the background of a paparazzi shot of Arsenal's execs arriving at a meeting in Germany. Madness!

Muppets gonna muppet :lol:

Rooting for Arsenal to get this over the line.

Was the right decision to let Mikhi go but him and Aubameyang with Ozil can be deadly. I want to Arsenal as a force!

Dortmund just make everything sound difficult. This will go through.

Weird feeling but I want Arsenal to strengthen a bit.

Seriously has anyone seen the question the SkySports interviewer just gave to the Dortmund coach at his press conference about the Aubameyang deal? Seriously it was one of the
stupidest things/question I have ever heard on television...

How do these people get employed to work? especially for a company like SkySports who are turning into a comedy station

Unfortunately i did see it, one of those times where you can’t watch because its that bad, then he asked it again ffs:wenger:

Same here. Make it a bit difficult for others around us (i.e. Top 4 contenders), as I'm comfortable with Jose vs Arsene. Plus, now that Arsenal made it to the Carabao Cup Final, it would be nice to see them throw a wrench into City's Quad plans.

Me too, I have far more appreication and respect for Arsenal after AW's recent comments about us as a club.

The PL is a better league when the classic big clubs are relevant and fighting for titles.

That said, Auba would be a sensational signing as he's very clinical with his finishing ability. And his arrival may even compel Ozil to recommit to the club.


First scouse lovers, then city lovers, now we’ve got fecking Arse lovers, get the banner hammer out ffs!
 
Bild are reporting that he's going to be back in the starting lineup tomorrow - after missing the first two matches due to the little Arsenal soap opera. RN - Dortmund's official media partner - are also reporting that he will be in the squad (at least).
 
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Pretty clear he was asking you here



So did he have the worst conversation rate in Europe or not?
I'm referring to the first post he responded to me regarding Zlatan, seems like you haven't been following...
 
Not sure what's an odder concept, the idea of Mhky announcing this, or the idea that they're going to basically sideline their record £50m man after 6 months!
 
You're kidding right?

Adnan should be able to tell us that, he has all the facts.
Your response to me was "No he wasn't" I then asked you "who was worse" to which i'm still awaiting your response.
 
Your response to me was "No he wasn't" I then asked you "who was worse" to which i'm still awaiting your response.
Stop being a smart ass.
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Taking a thread off topic
Stop being a smart ass.
You are the one that said "No he wasn't" why didn't you ask me to back up my claim then when you first respondent to me instead of throwing a silly three word response?
 
Bild are reporting that he's going to be back in the starting lineup tomorrow - after missing the first two matches due to the little Arsenal soap opera. RN - Dortmund's official media partner - are also reporting that he will be in the squad (at least).

He is in the squad. Hope that means its off. Lacazette i wasnt too worried about, it was obvious the French league was making him look better than he was, but im not as sure on Aubameyang. I think even PL defenders would struggle against that kind of pace.
 
He is in the squad. Hope that means its off. Lacazette i wasnt too worried about, it was obvious the French league was making him look better than he was, but im not as sure on Aubameyang. I think even PL defenders would struggle against that kind of pace.

I take it that way. The player also made a cryptic Instagram post with a match pic of him (in a Dortmund jersey) with "hate me or love me" as the caption. I usually don't bother trying to interpret that stuff, but the timing pretty much lines up with the news of his return to the squad.
What I don't get is why Arsenal would let this transfer fail. If you value what Aubameyang has to offer then a €70m asking price is pretty fair for a winter transfer. The player obviously is/was willing to make the move. So why blow this up to such a public story (even with comments from Wenger) just to back out because - surprise, surprise - Dortmund wouldn't accept their cheap offer. Doesn't exactly create a lot of confidence about Arsenal's chances/intentions to compete with the big boys:
If I was Özil I'd ask myself what he can achieve there if they can't even close this one.
 
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It´s also cute that some of their fans think they are at the level of Liverpool/Tottenham without him and at City/United/Chelsea level with Aubameyang, when everybody else thinks they need Aubameyang to not turn the league into a big five in the summer. If Aubameyang doesn´t come, Mkhitaryan is pissed, Lacazette and Giroud are already pissed and Ozil will probably piss off in the summer. The yhave so much riding on this and still want to act like the tough guy. :lol:
 
I take it that way. The player also made a cryptic Instagram post with a match pic of him (in a Dortmund jersey) with "hate me or love me" as the caption. I usually don't bother trying to interpret that stuff, but the timing pretty much lines up with the news of his return to the squad.
What I don't get is why Arsenal would let this transfer fail. If you value what Aubameyang has to offer then a €70m asking price is pretty fair for a winter transfer. The player obviously is/was willing to make the move. So why blow this up to such a public story (even with comments from Wenger) just to back out because - surprise, surprise - Dortmund wouldn't accept their cheap offer. Doesn't exactly create a lot of confidence about Arsenal's chances/intentions to compete with the big boys:
If I was Özil I'd ask myself what he can achieve there if they can't even close this one.

As Arseblog put it in yesterday's article, Gizadis seems to have made this a bit of a power play (against Wenger) by going over to Dortmund and being photographed.

The fact that the same problems seem to be happening point to the likelihood that Wenger was never the problem with money - that's the way the company is run from the top. Fans are fooling themselves if they think the offers will necessarily rise when Wenger leaves. They'll only change when those with the authority to do so decide it isn't the way to compete.
 
It´s also cute that some of their fans think they are at the level of Liverpool/Tottenham without him and at City/United/Chelsea level with Aubameyang, when everybody else thinks they need Aubameyang to not turn the league into a big five in the summer. If Aubameyang doesn´t come, Mkhitaryan is pissed, Lacazette and Giroud are already pissed and Ozil will probably piss off in the summer. The yhave so much riding on this and still want to act like the tough guy. :lol:

I don't think the league splits up like that, really. City are far out in front, then there's a gradual decline from United down to Arsenal, as there is in the table. Arsenal are only three points behind Tottenham and Tottenham probably have a trickier end to the season (at least in terms of league matches).
 
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As Arseblog put it in yesterday's article, Gizadis seems to have made this a bit of a power play (against Wenger) by going over to Dortmund and being photographed.

The fact that the same problems seem to be happening point to the likelihood that Wenger was never the problem with money - that's the way the company is run from the top. Fans are fooling themselves if they think the offers will necessarily rise when Wenger leaves. They'll only change when those with the authority to do so decide it isn't the way to compete.

Yeah it´s completely possible that Wenger is still there, because he is behind the "conservative" club strategy. Imagine Mourinho or Conte throwing hissy-fits 24/7. Ownership might simply not want that drama.
 
As Arseblog put it in yesterday's article, Gizadis seems to have made this a bit of a power play (against Wenger) by going over to Dortmund and being photographed.

I haven't read the article but that sounds incredibly unprofessional and also damaging to the club if players get the impression that people there will mess with their careers for such reasons.
 
It´s also cute that some of their fans think they are at the level of Liverpool/Tottenham without him and at City/United/Chelsea level with Aubameyang, when everybody else thinks they need Aubameyang to not turn the league into a big five in the summer. If Aubameyang doesn´t come, Mkhitaryan is pissed, Lacazette and Giroud are already pissed and Ozil will probably piss off in the summer. The yhave so much riding on this and still want to act like the tough guy. :lol:

No, I'm pretty sure the squads are roughly the same or better than some of those others you've mentioned. The problem here is not the players but the squad. We've lost the most points from winning positions this season I think and also make so many stupid decision in defence regardless of who is there for over a decade. It's clear that a competent coach would have won us at least 2-3 more league titles, but Wenger just hasn't got a clue.
 
Mikhi and Aubam, former partners in crime Dortmund, it makes so much sense within a team like Arsenal
 
As Arseblog put it in yesterday's article, Gizadis seems to have made this a bit of a power play (against Wenger) by going over to Dortmund and being photographed.

The fact that the same problems seem to be happening point to the likelihood that Wenger was never the problem with money - that's the way the company is run from the top. Fans are fooling themselves if they think the offers will necessarily rise when Wenger leaves. They'll only change when those with the authority to do so decide it isn't the way to compete.

Gazidis should make sure his own house is own order before making "power plays" against the manager, our commercial deals are pathetic for a of our size and profile.

I don't believe that for a second though. Its just part of a narrative to pin all the blame on Wenger and whenever something good happens at the club, Gazidis or someone else must be responsible.

They are all singing from the same hymn sheet, if Wenger didn't like the way things were run, he would quit. If the club hierarchy had a problem with him, they wouldn't renew his contract. At least one thing should be clear, our transfer policy is a club policy and not a Wenger policy. Wenger also doesn't handle negotiations himself so I never understood why he got all of the blame whenever we failed to land a target.
 
They are all singing from the same hymn sheet, if Wenger didn't like the way things were run, he would quit.
I agree with the rest of what you said but I'm not sure about this. I think Wenger loves Arsenal enough and being the manager there that he'd be willing to accept financial restrictions he didn't like just to continue. I think he has control over most footballing matters and he's content with compromising on the financial situation, but I'm sure any manager would love to be able to retain and purchase the biggest talents instead of losing them one by one to rivals.
 
What’s the catch with this guy? He’s been hitting goals for fun at Dortmund for a few seasons now and none of the big boys have got him at what seems like a reasonable price. Is there something I’m missing as I’ve never really seen him play.
 
If they don’t get this one done, I’d say Arsenal have had a bad window. They’ve downgraded on Sanchez and have made their squad smaller with the departures of Walcott and Coquelin.
 
I agree with the rest of what you said but I'm not sure about this. I think Wenger loves Arsenal enough and being the manager there that he'd be willing to accept financial restrictions he didn't like just to continue. I think he has control over most footballing matters and he's content with compromising on the financial situation, but I'm sure any manager would love to be able to retain and purchase the biggest talents instead of losing them one by one to rivals.

I don't think we actually disagree. I should have expanded my original point to say that even if Wenger isn't happy with every aspect of how the club operates, he clearly is happy overall and hence he stays. Its kind of like an old married couple, might dislike a few of each other's habits but neither party wants a divorce and are happy with how things are.
 
I don't think we actually disagree. I should have expanded my original point to say that even if Wenger isn't happy with every aspect of how the club operates, he clearly is happy overall and hence he stays. Its kind of like an old married couple, might dislike a few of each other's habits but neither party wants a divorce and are happy with how things are.
Yeah that's an apt analogy. All parties are too comfortable with how things are to rock the boat.
 
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