Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang | Orny says deal to Arsenal dependent on Dortmund getting replacement

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I think Wenger doesn't rate Lacazette that much given the fact that he has started Welbeck over him in some big matches. Personally surprising that Chelsea aren't going for him as Morata has historically done well as the second striker. Good signing for Arsenal though.

The gap between them and us is 11 points so I'm not sure if this helps them in catching us but they can easily catch Liverpool/Spurs for the top4.
 
bosnian_red said:
Bit of a surprise as to how quickly Arsenal are basically giving up on Lacazette after spending so much. Or at least, he'll just have a different role and probably be more a supporting cast type player, if not just a squad player. Obviously he hasn't done great and Auba is a better player for sure, but still a surprise. Will be a good move for them anyway. Suddenly with Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang, Ozil and Lacazette they are looking pretty strong in the attacking positions.
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They could play 3-5-2 with Lacazette and Aubameyang up front with Ozil and Mkhi/Wilshere playing the Silva and de Bruyne roles. They need a better DM to really make it work, but it's a case of being almost there with that formation.
 
Morpheus 7 said:
If you think Aubameyang has discipline problems at Dortmund, wait till he gets to London under the disciplinarian Wenger :lol:
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This. He has had problems with 3 different managers at Dortmund. Sooner or later he’s going to cause trouble.
 
KM said:
I think Wenger doesn't rate Lacazette that much given the fact that he has started Welbeck over him in some big matches. Personally surprising that Chelsea aren't going for him as Morata has historically done well as the second striker. Good signing for Arsenal though.

The gap between them and us is 11 points so I'm not sure if this helps them in catching us but they can easily catch Liverpool/Spurs for the top4.
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I think that too. Doesn't seem that keen on him, dropped him for some big matches, consistently subs him off even if they need a goal. I think he's done ok but for the £50m or so they spent on him he's been a bit of a disappointment.

If this signing helps Arsenal catch Liverpool then i'm glad.
 
60m is a lot for a speedy striker who is 29 in 5 months time. How much does he rely on his pace? I know this is a much maligned opinion on the caf, but it doesn't strike me as a very smart signing really.
 
2 man midfield said:
60m is a lot for a speedy striker who is 29 in 5 months time. How much does he rely on his pace? I know this is a much maligned opinion on the caf, but it doesn't strike me as a very smart signing really.
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Player in his peak for 60 Million is a good business. Maybe about time Arsenal stopped worrying about resale value and sign players who deliver now rather than "maybe in the future".
 
roonster09 said:
Player in his peak for 60 Million is a good business. Maybe about time Arsenal stopped worrying about resale value and sign players who deliver now rather than "maybe in the future".
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That's why it strikes me as odd, it's a decidedly un-Arsenal like deal.
 
Lucky number 7 said:
What’s the catch with this guy? He’s been hitting goals for fun at Dortmund for a few seasons now and none of the big boys have got him at what seems like a reasonable price. Is there something I’m missing as I’ve never really seen him play.
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He's not been as amazing in the CL for Dortmund as Lewandowski was e.g. 4 goals against Real Madrid.

Have to remember he joined them after that reached a CL final in 2013 and they'd won a couple of Bundesliga titles so he was playing for one of the top european clubs before their decline in the last year.

I'm not sure about Mikhi to Arsenal but Aubameyang is a step up on Lacazette imo and generally it's what Arsenal had to do. When you sell Alexis you can't just replace him internally with Welbeck and Giroud.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
How have strikers from the German League done previously in the PL?

I can only think of Dzeko who's productivity declined before increasing again when he joined Roma.

Any others?

edit: looking at goals per 90, he didn't actually do too badly but could never win a full starting berth for City.
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Berbatov did o.k. ;)
 
charlenefan said:
And never got a move and Arsenal are only going for him now due to Sanchez leaving, you've got to wonder why no one has ever fancied him enough
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He's hardly played for a mid table team for years.

He joined Dortmund the same summer as Mikhitayaran.

Was everyone on Redcafe going why has no-one gone for Mikhi when Man. United signed him?
 
Dolf said:
This. He has had problems with 3 different managers at Dortmund. Sooner or later he’s going to cause trouble.
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The disciplinarian issues under 3 different managers never really impacted his performances and how he was valued by those managers. It was just that they couldn't let some things slide and thus had to suspend him once a year for some thing he did. He never fell out with a manager and stopped performeing, or getting picked, or something. On the contrary, he has been a reliabe scorer who has produced fantastic numbers consistently.
 
Pace Abuser said:
So where will Lacazette play?
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Long term I'd say the bench/Giroud role as let's be honest he's not top class from what I've seen of him at Arsenal. Compare Lacazette to other French strikers like Greizmann, Mbappe, Martial you get the idea....

Short term it might be a 4-3-1-2 as Arsenal don't gave many wide players now with Walcott leaving so Ozil in number 10 and Mikhi coming in from the left in a midfield three.
 
SSN and Arsenal fans are already wanking over him, He's only joining them for the money anyway, Also, I'm sure he promised his Grandfather that he'd join Real Madrid as well.
 
This deal is strange, I can't remember the last time Wenger replaced a first teamer (Lacazette) after six months. We persisted with Almunia for years for crying out loud.

There must be something about Lacazette's playing style that Wenger just doesn't like. I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave next summer (2019).
 
JSArsenal said:
This deal is strange, I can't remember the last time Wenger replaced a first teamer (Lacazette) after six months. We persisted with Almunia for years for crying out loud.

There must be something about Lacazette's playing style that Wenger just doesn't like. I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave next summer (2019).
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Why would Aubameyang signal the end of Lacazette? Aubameyang has played plenty on the LW.
 
Ish said:
Way more money I'd say, in a league with a better worldwide audience etc. But also, it seems that there's been a distinct lack of offers/interest for his services iirc.

He's been wanting to go to Madrid forever, but they've not been linked much and neither have any of the other big clubs. Inter were strongly linked, but I don't think they can afford what the EPL clubs can (transfer fee and wages).
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Bayern Munich have Lewandowski.

Barcelona....enough said.

Man. United....Alexis signed and young diamonds like Martial and Rashford around.

Real Madrid....his dream but BBC all still there although I do wonder if we'll see a breaking up of that combination in the summer.

PSG...could actuallly see him there if Neymar went.

Juve- Higuain, Dybala, Mandzukic etc.

Inter Milan....Icardi.

AC Milan- Possible he could go back there but let's be honest Arsenal are still in miles better state than them.

I'm actually surprised Liverpool haven't made a play. Klopp worked with him at Dortmund and even though I think Firmino is underrated a front three of Salah-Aubameyang-Mane would be a bit of a nightmare for most defences.

When you look at the leading european clubs which are a step up from Dortmund they are all well stocked for strikers.

Arsenal will give him a pay rise, boost his ego by saying he can be the new fan favourite with Alexis gone and he can be the man to fire them back into the champions league.

Arsenal are only 5 points off 4th with plenty of winnable games coming up.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
The disciplinarian issues under 3 different managers never really impacted his performances and how he was valued by those managers. It was just that they couldn't let some things slide and thus had to suspend him once a year for some thing he did. He never fell out with a manager and stopped performeing, or getting picked, or something. On the contrary, he has been a reliabe scorer who has produced fantastic numbers consistently.
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That shouldn't matter though. You can't behave like a diva just because you know you'll start anyway.
Not someone i would want near my club. We pay you royally and the fans show up every match to support you so you better show up for training on time.
 
VP89 said:
Why would Aubameyang signal the end of Lacazette? Aubameyang has played plenty on the LW.
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He has not. He last played on the wing when Klopp was still BVB coach 4 years ago, and even then it was predominantly RW over LW. He has played CF in the vast majority of games over his career, and has clearly performed best there.
 
VP89 said:
Why would Aubameyang signal the end of Lacazette? Aubameyang has played plenty on the LW.
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This will likely be our team

Cech
Back 4
Xhaka-Wilshere

Ozil-Mhki (I assume he will start)- Ramsey

Striker

The only way both Aubameyang and Lacazette start is if Mhki is a bench player ( if he is, then what was the point of swapping him for Sanchez instead of taking a cash only deal). Switching to a back three takes away one more starting spot from the front positions so that would make it even harder to fit in everyone. I can't see a consistent starting line up that has in both of them, considering that Wenger will always play his favorites (Wilshere, Ramsey and Ozil).
 
Jacko21 said:
Auba does his best work through the middle, it’s where he scores his goals. Not off of the left.

And if you’re playing two up top, not withstanding the fact that a Auba/Laca linkup seems optimistic, that leaves only one position for Özil or Mkhi - both of whom, again do their best work as a no.10.

Signing Mkhi and Auba is reactive, rather than proactive, because neither solve the problems Arsenal were/are having.

On paper, it’s a fearsome front four, but practically-speaking, I see trouble ahead.
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I'm with you on that. I will give credit where it is due; Wenger has mitigated the damage of losing their best player with Mkhi and PEA, either of whom is a near-certain improvement on Walcott.

However there are clear question marks over how he slots PEA/Lacazette and Ozil/Mkhi into a functioning front line, and worse still this turnover at the front does nothing to solve Arsenal's critical issues further back.
 
Aubameyang and Lacazette front two looks frightening.

Ozil is certainly gonna leave so Wenger would be wise to go back to the 442 that won him his last Premier League title.
 
Aubameyang and Mhik would be a steal of a window.
They need this more than ever.
 
Jaybomb said:
Aubameyang and Lacazette front two looks frightening.

Ozil is certainly gonna leave so Wenger would be wise to go back to the 442 that won him his last Premier League title.
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Does it? Lacazette has been poor for a while now. I’m still not convinced by him.
 
It will be a good signing, especially if Ozil goes, I just wish he would come to us in this window.

Id probably go diamond midfield with

-------Xhaka-------
Wilshere Ramsey
-------Mhki-------
-Auba Lacazette-

Let Auba and Lacazette provide some width whilst attacking.
 
DreamIsh said:
Aubameyang and Mhik would be a steal of a window.
They need this more than ever.
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No it wouldn't.

Sanchez is a better player than Aubameyang, and Mkhi is going to end up Ozils replacement.
 
If Dortmund are seriously considering Giroud, Modeste or Michy Batshuayi as a replacement for Aubamayeng then that will truly complete their downhill slide into mediocrity. All that would be left would be to sell Reus in the summer and buy Konoplyanka as a replacement.

I would test Leipzeig's resolve and bid all that extra cash they have for Timo Werner, if they can sell Keita for 60 Million then they maybe willing to let go of Werner for a similar amount. He's the only realistic striker option in Germany I see now capable of replacing Aubamayeng, although he may not be willing to switch RB for Dortmund.
 
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Good short term fix, Arsenal need to go all out in summer again and strengthen. This shouldnt replace the summer window. They should gave bought Auba in summer already
 
JSArsenal said:
This deal is strange, I can't remember the last time Wenger replaced a first teamer (Lacazette) after six months. We persisted with Almunia for years for crying out loud.

There must be something about Lacazette's playing style that Wenger just doesn't like. I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave next summer (2019).
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I think he may leave even earlier (summer 2018) and go to Madrid where he would have gone had they not been transfer banned, with Giroud on his way out Lacazette now looks likely to take his role of super sub
 
Statement signing by Arsenal, well done.

Great for the Premier League too the league gaining a player of his standing and reputation after losing Coutinho.
 
@FootballHQ yeah agreed. I don’t think the Italian clubs, barring maybe Juve - are able to sign players for €60m+ these days. And as you mentioned - Inter might be able to but they have Icardi.

I feel PEA might suit arsenal, though it’s a weird one. I rate him, like most seem to, but he was basically available to any club willing to pay - he even had a few come and get me pleas to Madrid. But no one was seemingly interested or willing to pay the fee.
 
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