Lukaku is EPL proven.
The only guy to consistently score more than him over the last few years in the EPL is Kane, who some rate as the best stirker in the World.
I would choose Lukaku over Auba, every time.
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Lukaku is EPL proven.
The only guy to consistently score more than him over the last few years in the EPL is Kane, who some rate as the best stirker in the World.
I would choose Lukaku over Auba, every time.
For 2 reasons :
1 - It's illogical to spend another +70m on a striker while we already have a good one with some other positions need strengthening.
2 - Auba doesn't suit Jose's style anyway. He wants a strong striker up front to build the play around him. Auba is a pace merchant that thrives in spaces, wasteful but gets loads of chances to score, just like Salah. Mourinho doesn't prefer these kind of strikers.
Aubameyang really isn't that good.
Indeed. Though that legend SAF could still deliver them trophies
Agreed. Typical 'amazing on FIFA' but not as good in reality (see Lacazette)
His goal record says otherwise (and not on FIFA). I don't think he is elite, but he clearly is a good player.
It’s players with sexy names that count! FYIIndeed. Though that legend SAF could still deliver them trophies
Aubameyang and Lukaku actually aren't that far apart concerning output and it's a myth that Aubameyang needs many chances to score. Quite the opposite to be honest. 18.6 % chance coversion in the league for the 15/16 season, 25% for 16/17 and 17.5 % so far in 17/18 are very decent stats. Better than Lewandowski's or Ronaldo's during that time for example, who most caftards would have loved at United.
While Lukaku is simply better at hold up play and might therefore be a better fit for Mourinho's tactics, Aubameyang tends to rather get on the end of plays by sprinting into the box from deeper positions to catch defenders off guard with his pace. In the end it's not a matter of quality when choosing beteen the two but a matter of utilization.
There're other videos btw.
There're other videos btw.
He is known to miss his fair share but his record is world class. Fact he gets into those positions mean he'll score enough. Can be forgiven for missing a few, if it means not having to put up with united legend wele.
That's what I said earlier. He's similar to Salah, his pace provides him with many chances, he misses a lot but if you're getting 10 chances per game you'll sure score 1 or 2.
He isn't better than Lukaku, that’s why.
How have strikers from the German League done previously in the PL?
I can only think of Dzeko who's productivity declined before increasing again when he joined Roma.
Any others?
edit: looking at goals per 90, he didn't actually do too badly but could never win a full starting berth for City.
I can only think of Dzeko who's productivity declined before increasing again when he joined Roma.
Any others?
edit: looking at goals per 90, he didn't actually do too badly but could never win a full starting berth for City.
he really really is not.Salah only came to the fore this season. Auba has been doing it for a while.
I think there's going to be many shocked faces here and there will be more thread's again like when we got Sanchez and was deemed inferior to di Maria and this forum constantly tried to shit on Alexis before they realised their mistake. Funny how things changed now that he plays for united.
He will tear teams apart in this League.
I am sure he won't score more than 15 goals, but we will see.
If not, who is? Pretty much dangerous every time I see him in the CL. Scores a lot of goals, always gets a chance out of nothing - unlike Lukaku who’s often mentioned on here and that often can’t find a single chance during a game.
You need a new shtick. It's embarrassing now.
He was available last summer and no one bought him, even with a couple top teams needing forwards. The whole world is letting Arsenal have a free run at him now. Arsenal are not even in the CL. He isn’t that good. Lacazette isn’t that good either.
So long as he scores a hat trick in the League up final it's all good.
Salah has been improving consistently through his career and he's 3 years younger than Auba. Both are of similar style that's my point.
IIRC Alexis had a great WC at this time and it was clear he would be a great signing for Arsenal, but those who said ADM would be better can't be blamed at all can they ? ADM was a phenomenal player and a key part in Madrid winning the CL this year and was one of the best wingers in the world when we signed him. He started his campaign with us on fire, but as the time passed he appeared to be no longer arsed to play here and fell with LVG over time. He just didn't want to be here, but if we were comparing him with Alexis before they both joined the Premier League, both were great but ADM was superior at this time imo.
Di Maria was amazing for Real during the year they won the CL. Sanchez did struggle at times in Spain. Di Maria never really wanted to join us and Van Gaal was clueless as well.
I think we are often victim of our own perceptions. As someone pointed out somewhere before, Lukaku s rates of return look good vs the likes of Costa and the latter is considered a great striker. The fact of the matter is that the likes of RvP and Suarez, and Kane today, or a RvN for us in the past, don't come around much and their efficiency is more an exception than the norm for CFs. In other words, are we holding guys like an Aubameyang and Lukaku to too high a standard?
I mean if he comes in Jan then no one should expect him to score more than 15.
He's a very, very good striker.
I do mean in a full season.
FletcherinhoIt’s players with sexy names that count! FYI
Very good and typical Arsenal player. Don't think he will solve any of their problems though.
Not accepted! Too tall to be an -inho
Is he that wasteful? According to Squawka his shot accuracy is slightly higher than Lewandowski's this season. http://www.squawka.com/players/pier...eason-2017/2018#846#all-matches#1-19#by-match
http://www.squawka.com/players/robert-lewandowski/stats#performance-score#fc-bayern-münchen-(current)#german-bundesliga#22#season-2017/2018#846#all-matches#1-19#by-match
This article has him appearing twice in the top fifty most clinical strikers of the past five years based on conversion rate: http://www.eifsoccer.com/articles/conversion-rate/
He's at 28th and 12th. Luiz Suarez, for comparison, is 48th and 23rd.
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/blmd1n-lewandowski-and-aubameyang-resume-goal-race.jsp
Clinical: Aubameyang tends to open the scoring more often than Lewandowski, with 30.3 percent of his strikes making it 1-0 to BVB, compared to 25.8 percent of Lewandowski's for the Bavarians. The Gabon striker also requires fewer attempts per goal, with 5.1 shots ending in the opposition net compared to 5.6 of Lewandowski's. In addition, Auba has converted 60.6 percent of his chances in the Bundesliga, with Lewy finishing off 54.3 percent of his opportunities.
Whether he'd do the same for Arsenal is another matter but he seems to be fairly efficient for Dortmund.
http://www.squawka.com/players/robert-lewandowski/stats#performance-score#fc-bayern-münchen-(current)#german-bundesliga#22#season-2017/2018#846#all-matches#1-19#by-match
This article has him appearing twice in the top fifty most clinical strikers of the past five years based on conversion rate: http://www.eifsoccer.com/articles/conversion-rate/
He's at 28th and 12th. Luiz Suarez, for comparison, is 48th and 23rd.
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/blmd1n-lewandowski-and-aubameyang-resume-goal-race.jsp
Clinical: Aubameyang tends to open the scoring more often than Lewandowski, with 30.3 percent of his strikes making it 1-0 to BVB, compared to 25.8 percent of Lewandowski's for the Bavarians. The Gabon striker also requires fewer attempts per goal, with 5.1 shots ending in the opposition net compared to 5.6 of Lewandowski's. In addition, Auba has converted 60.6 percent of his chances in the Bundesliga, with Lewy finishing off 54.3 percent of his opportunities.
Whether he'd do the same for Arsenal is another matter but he seems to be fairly efficient for Dortmund.
Some more that did reasonably well in Germany would be Papiss Cissé, Demba Ba, Firmino, Heung-Min Son, Berbatov, Voronin.
Some that were average to alright in Germany are Kachunga, Joselu, Santa Cruz, Okazaki.
Ibrahimovic misses a lot too, was he a bad signing?
Wasn't bad, but neither was he great.
Well before he did his cruciate he was our highest scorer in a single season since RVP and was on the way to a few more goals too. That's about as great as you hope for, for a 35 year old signing tbf.
He is very clearly a better striker than Lukaku, but Lukaku has more long term potential so it's absolutely logical that United aren't looking at him.
Me too, I have far more appreication and respect for Arsenal after AW's recent comments about us as a club.
The PL is a better league when the classic big clubs are relevant and fighting for titles.
That said, Auba would be a sensational signing as he's very clinical with his finishing ability. And his arrival may even compel Ozil to recommit to the club.
Signing Auba makes each and every sense for the Gunners. They may finally add some real gunpowder to complement their playing style.
It seems so stupid and petty to argue over €10-15M on Arsenal´s part. While Arsenal might want to pretend that they have all the leverage, because PEA wants to leave Dortmund so desperately, they have a lot more riding on getting this done than Dortmund. As you say the Ozil re-signing, the start to the relationship with Mkhitaryan´s sensitive soul (Aubameyang was obviously part of the pitch) and the general perception of Arsenal as a serious contender. Who´s going there, if they lose Sanchez, Ozil, Walcott, Wilshere, AOC, Coquelin in the span of 12 months and the only player they sign is Mkhitaryan, where it looked likey they needed to hold him at gunpoint to get his signature.
Dortmund still have at least half of the Dembele money ( minus Yarmolenko/Akanji), so they could get a reinforcement, if they think PEA won´t perform accordingly. Which also has to be said, he´s never done before. He might be out partying and pouting, but he always brings it on the pitch.
He conversion rate was the worst in the league.
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