Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang | Orny says deal to Arsenal dependent on Dortmund getting replacement

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No it wouldn't.

Sanchez is a better player than Aubameyang, and Mkhi is going to end up Ozils replacement.

Well that's debatable. Think I'd prefer Aubameyang.

As for Özil, I haven't heard any noise about him leaving... But I could see it happening in the summer for sure.
 
I'm actually surprised Liverpool haven't made a play. Klopp worked with him at Dortmund and even though I think Firmino is underrated a front three of Salah-Aubameyang-Mane would be a bit of a nightmare for most defences.

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Probably because he needs defenders and a midfielder that can intercept a ball from time to time when the other team attack them.

And a keeper, with hands preferably.
 
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Well that's debatable. Think I'd prefer Aubameyang.

As for Özil, I haven't heard any noise about him leaving... But I could see it happening in the summer for sure.

Sanchez is far and more complete attacker than Auba who is more reliant on his pace.
 
Good signing for Arsenal. They have signed a player who they don't have to develop for the Manchester clubs.
 
Well that's debatable. Think I'd prefer Aubameyang.

As for Özil, I haven't heard any noise about him leaving... But I could see it happening in the summer for sure.
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Well that's debatable. Think I'd prefer Aubameyang.

As for Özil, I haven't heard any noise about him leaving... But I could see it happening in the summer for sure.

Lol no. Sanchez is all-round better player. Think most people have seen Auba run like Sonic the Hedgehog and score, that they haven't actually observed his all-round game to make statements like this.
 
Well that's debatable. Think I'd prefer Aubameyang.

As for Özil, I haven't heard any noise about him leaving... But I could see it happening in the summer for sure.
Arsenal or Dortmund fan by chance?
 
Well that's debatable. Think I'd prefer Aubameyang.

As for Özil, I haven't heard any noise about him leaving... But I could see it happening in the summer for sure.

No words.
 
No need to compare Sanchez with Auba. Different type of players. But I don't think anyone can look at our transfer window as a very bad one if we end up getting both Auba and Mkhi while loosing out on Sanchez. Much better then I had hoped for to be honest.

Now of course we'll have to see what happens with Özil in the summer and if he does leave how we would replace him. But it's also premature to claim he's already out of the club and even more so that we won't bring another player in if he does leave (which of course still seems likely).

Also of course we still have defensive issues to sort out that none of these transfers fix so the squad is obviously still incomplete.
 
Sanchez is far and more complete attacker than Auba who is more reliant on his pace.

Lol no. Sanchez is all-round better player. Think most people have seen Auba run like Sonic the Hedgehog and score, that they haven't actually observed his all-round game to make statements like this.

Too many people here think he's just a pace merchant without actually watching him. You all need to stop rating players you haven't got a clue about, makes you look silly.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him enough to make statements and pass it on as a fact, but a Dortmund guy on Reddit described him few days ago as off the ball movement and timing being his key attributes with pace being his least one as he doesn't get to use it as much.
 
Too many people here think he's just a pace merchant without actually watching him. You all need to stop rating players you haven't got a clue about, makes you look silly.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him enough to make statements and pass it on as a fact, but a Dortmund guy on Reddit described him few days ago as off the ball movement and timing being his key attributes with pace being his least one as he doesn't get to use it as much.

Since when pace merchant is considered an insult to a player ? Also the bold part is the perfect description for a pace merchant. He won't be running in straight line if you're thinking that's what " reliant on pace " means. That's why I said previously he's similar to Salah.

Anyway he's a good player. No one is denying that but Sanchez is far more complete striker with different tricks.
 
Me thinks Auba can play LW with Mkhi on the right and Ozil at #10. Should help Lacazette score more.

I would be shocked if Aubameyang went from main central striker at Dortmund and joined a club where he'd have to play wider.

It will be Lacazette who will have to adapt if he wants to keep his place in the team. In recent games he's been dropping deeper to get the ball anyway.
 
Begs the question why Arsenal didn't do all this transfer activity in the summer, just seems they are stabbing in the dark and hoping for the best, by accident it could actually work this time though.
 
Too many people here think he's just a pace merchant without actually watching him. You all need to stop rating players you haven't got a clue about, makes you look silly.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him enough to make statements and pass it on as a fact, but a Dortmund guy on Reddit described him few days ago as off the ball movement and timing being his key attributes with pace being his least one as he doesn't get to use it as much.

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Too many people here think he's just a pace merchant without actually watching him. You all need to stop rating players you haven't got a clue about, makes you look silly.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him enough to make statements and pass it on as a fact, but a Dortmund guy on Reddit described him few days ago as off the ball movement and timing being his key attributes with pace being his least one as he doesn't get to use it as much.
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So what is the difference in credibility between dudes on Reddit and Redcafe having opinion?
 
Begs the question why Arsenal didn't do all this transfer activity in the summer, just seems they are stabbing in the dark and hoping for the best, by accident it could actually work this time though.


Some control has been wrestled from Arsene since. Since the start of November Sven Mislentat has come in from Dortmund as Head of Recruitment & as well as former Barca Director of Football Raul Sanllehi .

Seems to be having an effect.
 
Too many people here think he's just a pace merchant without actually watching him. You all need to stop rating players you haven't got a clue about, makes you look silly.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him enough to make statements and pass it on as a fact, but a Dortmund guy on Reddit described him few days ago as off the ball movement and timing being his key attributes with pace being his least one as he doesn't get to use it as much.

I nearly gave you a "Like" for your honesty!
 
This deal is strange, I can't remember the last time Wenger replaced a first teamer (Lacazette) after six months. We persisted with Almunia for years for crying out loud.

There must be something about Lacazette's playing style that Wenger just doesn't like. I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave next summer (2019).
Wenger didn't stick with Almunia just for the fun of it, he's not stupid, but was rather severely constrained financially. Most people tend to sweep that under the carpet as though it never happened. Wenger continues to take the blame for most of the things that happen at Arsenal which he's not responsible for. For example, there are fans blaming him for not closing this Auba deal, even when it is clear that three top officials of the club are the ones handling the negotiations. Same way Wenger is blamed for Arsenal's trophy drought in in those years when they sold their best players every single season. But since they stopped doing that in 2014, Wenger has proven himself again by winning three fa cups and three Charity Shield against teams he couldn't beat before. The man is one of the greatest managers alive, yet he doesn't get the respect he deserves.
 
Wenger didn't stick with Almunia just for the fun of it, he's not stupid, but was rather severely constrained financially. Most people tend to sweep that under the carpet as though it never happened. Wenger continues to take the blame for most of the things that happen at Arsenal which he's not responsible for. For example, there are fans blaming him for not closing this Auba deal, even when it is clear that three top officials of the club are the ones handling the negotiations. Same way Wenger is blamed for Arsenal's trophy drought in in those years when they sold their best players every single season. But since they stopped doing that in 2014, Wenger has proven himself again by winning three fa cups and three Charity Shield against teams he couldn't beat before. The man is one of the greatest managers alive, yet he doesn't get the respect he deserves.

If the board were not giving him funds he could have resigned. No point talking about financial constraints especially when good old Arsene himself is one of the highest payed managers in the world. Never mind Europe.
 
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So what is the difference in credibility between dudes on Reddit and Redcafe having opinion?
Dudes on reddit generally spend more time online so obviously they know more about the world offline.
 
He is tap-in and pace merchant with excellent movement , not the type who can create chance for himself out of nothing, not a target man whom are good with hold up play.

he is a pacy poacher , which is why i think he will score lot of goals for arsenal . arsenal create lot of chances and he will put them in
 
Too many people here think he's just a pace merchant without actually watching him. You all need to stop rating players you haven't got a clue about, makes you look silly.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him enough to make statements and pass it on as a fact, but a Dortmund guy on Reddit described him few days ago as off the ball movement and timing being his key attributes with pace being his least one as he doesn't get to use it as much.

What is this post even? Criticises people for not rating him because they haven't seen him play then does the same because some dude on Reddit told him.
 
:lol: Dortmund guy on reddit

To be honest Aubamayang has always looked a top top striker to me. On performances, I'd pick him over Lukaku and Morata. He's shown a much higher level than either. Only question is moving to the PL when your past 28/29 and what happens once his insane pace lowers. Lukaku has been here for ages and Morata is younger and has time to adapt. Also the issues surrounding his attitude.

Still, on paper there isn't a better striker on the market and neither was there last summer when all the club's bought big. Have a sneaky feeling it won't work out as on paper though.
 
He's been waiting for years for one of the top clubs to go for him. Preferably Real Madrid, but if any of the other true powerhouses had made an approach I'm sure he would have tried to push it through. But it just hasn't happened. For some reason despite his record, no top club has ever been seriously linked with him.

He may have given up hope that it'll ever happen. Over the last 18 months a number of the top clubs have bought strikers, and they completely overlooked him. A few other top clubs are being rumoured to be looking for strikers at the end of this season, but again none of them are being seriously linked to him. And if he makes it obvious that he is leaving now and still none of the top teams show any interest, he'll have to accept that it just isn't going to happen. So, since he seems to have made his postion at Dortmund untenable, Arsenal may just be his best bet.

The real question is that why have the big clubs (apparently) snubbed him in the first place? It is not like Chelsea (Morata has not exactly set Stamford Bridge on fire while Conte has issues with Michy), Liverpool (No backups to the "...And Then There Were Three..." attacking lineup), Man United (Unlikely Zlatan will stay next season while Lukaku still has issues under Mourinho's system), Man City (We badly need more attacking players, enough said), PSG (again, needs more attacking players), Real Madrid (who need a better centre forward then Benzema) and Barcelona (over-reliant on Messi and Suarez) have boatloads of world class centre forwards on their books. Especially a striker whose goalscoring record is among the best in Europe.

And besides even if they have all snubbed him, playing under a team like Arsenal under a manager like Wenger (who has dramatically declined over the last 10 years or so) is nothing but a painful experience these days no matter how good you are. Ask any of the players who have followed RvP out the door.

Because other club ain't paying well as Arsenal who is desperate at the moment. He is not all that. He is not that clinical. He is feeding on chances at Dortmund which hard for most teams to be able to replicate in PL.

Surely there are plenty of clubs who would be willing to pay more than what Arsenal are willing to offer? Likewise if he is the kind of guy that just finishes chances that the midfield/wingers create for him, then he is not going to be effective at the Arsenal considering that Sanchez is gone, Ozil might also leave, Wellbeck is always injured, Iwobi is at the wrong North London club and Jack Wilshere (and perhaps Mkhitaryan) is the only decent midfielder they have. And that does not even cover the defence either, which will likely make sure that to matter how many goals he scores for him, the Gooners will likely end up squandering that advantage anyway.
 
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The real question is that why have the big clubs (apparently) snubbed him in the first place? It is not like Chelsea (Morata has not exactly set Stamford Bridge on fire while Conte has issues with Michy), Liverpool (No backups to the "...And Then There Were Three..." attacking lineup), Man United (Unlikely Zlatan will stay next season while Lukaku still has issues under Mourinho's system), Man City (We badly need more attacking players, enough said), PSG (again, needs more attacking players), Real Madrid (who need a better centre forward then Benzema) and Barcelona (over-reliant on Messi and Suarez) have boatloads of world class centre forwards on their books. Especially a striker whose goalscoring record is among the best in Europe.

And besides even if they have all snubbed him, playing under a team like Arsenal under a manager like Wenger (who has dramatically declined over the last 10 years or so) is nothing but a painful experience these days no matter how good you are. Ask any of the players who have followed RvP out the door.



Surely there are plenty of clubs who would be willing to pay more than what Arsenal are willing to offer? Likewise if he is the kind of guy that just finishes chances that the midfield/wingers create for him, then he is not going to be effective at the Arsenal considering that Sanchez is gone, Ozil might also leave, Wellbeck is always injured, Iwobi is at the wrong North London club and Jack Wilshere (and perhaps Mkhitaryan) is the only decent midfielder they have. And that does not even cover the defence either, which will likely make sure that to matter how many goals he scores for him, the Gooners will likely end up squandering that advantage anyway.
Some clubs can match or beat Arsenal, but no one willing to pay for Aumabeyang. He is not the type of forward many clubs ulitize as well as his attitude stinks. He is not that well received by neutral fans either so not really make you feel you should pay over the odd.

Mkhi in his optimal mode, can assist him well just as he did at Dortmund. If Ozil leaves, then for sure Arsenal would look to add someone in his place. At the moment they're fine for whatever they try to push for the rest of the season. Arsenal defense is a problem but they ain't exactly worse than L'pool's for instance. They sorted their attack until the end of the season by shipping out Alexis who didn't to the best of his ability for them any longer, while getting some decent replacement, Arsenal should be fine trailing and waiting for a chance to overtake the team above them.
 
And besides even if they have all snubbed him, playing under a team like Arsenal under a manager like Wenger (who has dramatically declined over the last 10 years or so) is nothing but a painful experience these days no matter how good you are. Ask any of the players who have followed RvP out the door.
Who has followed RvP out the door? Only Sanchez, and players leaving Arsenal have more to do with the inability of the club to challenge not the manager. How can a city fan thats witnessed their manager drop half a billion on their team comment about the managing level at any other team. The peers of Arsenal spending power wise are Liverpool and Tottenham, and seeing as we're just 5 points of one and 3 off the other you can't really say that Wenger has done much worse than Klopp or Pochettino. And we were playing 6 months with an unmotivated player.
 
What is this post even? Criticises people for not rating him because they haven't seen him play then does the same because some dude on Reddit told him.

Just logged in here to say exactly this. :lol:

A+ for the honesty though.
 
Salah and De Bruyne were young players. Aubameyang is 28 and had been begging Real Madrid to sign him for awhile.
Also, Salah is most effective under a counter-attacking manager like Klopp. He may not be as effective in a possession based indirect system that Arsenal prefer.
 
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So what is the difference in credibility between dudes on Reddit and Redcafe having opinion?


The point isn't so much about Reddit or redcafe but about the opinion of united fans and Dortmund fans about a Dortmund player. Many on here are dismissing him as basically a decent player at best and not quality despite his stats saying otherwise and those who watch him consistently giving him a good report.

Do you all even read or did I not phrase it correctly? :rolleyes:
 
The point isn't so much about Reddit or redcafe but about the opinion of united fans and Dortmund fans about a Dortmund player. Many on here are dismissing him as basically a decent player at best and not quality despite his stats saying otherwise and those who watch him consistently giving him a good report.
Dortmund fans on here don't mind him going at all which speaks volume. So it's not just Nited fans vs Dortmund fans. Not every fan is credible in all discussion.
 
Also, Salah is most effective under a counter-attacking manager like Klopp. He may not be as effective in a possession based indirect system that Arsenal prefer.
I'm Egyptian and agree with you on Salah..
 
Dortmund fans on here don't mind him going at all which speaks volume. So it's not just Nited fans vs Dortmund fans. Not every fan is credible in all discussion.

Is that because of ability or because of all the shit he's done with the club pretty much burning all bridges.

Be nice to hear a Dortmund fans view if they are here.
 
Is that because of ability or because of all the shit he's done with the club pretty much burning all bridges.

Be nice to hear a Dortmund fans view if they are here.
You can say his antic is overshadowing his ability, which goes back to the point he's not all that. Back in the days, we have someone like Ronaldinho who was known to be lazy and skipping training, but the club still tolerate due to his ability is worthy for the baggage. Aubameyang? Not so much. There is a reason he has been at Dortmund till this point despite all the goal tally from previous season.
 
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