If we are buying a striker that doesn´t miss many sitters Cavani is not the one and for that matter neither is Auba..Not a fan of Cavani tbh, plus he's 30 y/o and PSG would want a pretty penny for him. I'm sure Mourinho likes him though.
Well, you bring any CF in, you would have the same disjoined problems at the beginning, right?And look what happened to Mikhi this season. Thing is, Dortmund are not a team under as much of a transition as we are and unlike us, they have a style of football that they play. I'm not saying Auba won't be a good signing, but it's really hard to be sure if playing in a congested penalty area is one of his strengths. Also, the fact that we're going to have at least 3 new faces in our squad next season, we're probably going to start off looking very disjointed, that'll only make it harder for Auba.
Not necessarily. Some strikers like belotti or icardi seem to thrive in chaos and dont need a free flowing system around them.Well, you bring any CF in, you would have the same disjoined problems at the beginning, right?
Hardly. We can buy Dortmund's best player if we want, the same principal doesn't work both ways. In playing terms, it's not even a great argument. Dortmund had a very average season, barely managing to finish third in what should be a two horse race. We've had an average season (in a more competitive league), but still might finish having won two trophies and secured a CL spot (via the EL). There isn't any metric really where Dortmund are ahead of us.United at this time would also be a step down
Aubameyang is not better than AgueroThe only player who is better than Auba is Mbappe, considering his age and upside. Auba is better than Moratta, Lukaku, Aguero, etc.
Is common sense a metric?Hardly. We can buy Dortmund's best player if we want, the same principal doesn't work both ways. In playing terms, it's not even a great argument. Dortmund had a very average season, barely managing to finish third in what should be a two horse race. We've had an average season (in a more competitive league), but still might finish having won two trophies and secured a CL spot (via the EL). There isn't any metric really where Dortmund are ahead of us.
When they were at their best under Klopp, I could see the argument in playing terms because they were miles ahead. But, they're nothing special of late.
Hardly. We can buy Dortmund's best player if we want, the same principal doesn't work both ways. In playing terms, it's not even a great argument. Dortmund had a very average season, barely managing to finish third in what should be a two horse race. We've had an average season (in a more competitive league), but still might finish having won two trophies and secured a CL spot (via the EL). There isn't any metric really where Dortmund are ahead of us.
When they were at their best under Klopp, I could see the argument in playing terms because they were miles ahead. But, they're nothing special of late.
No one measures the success of a season based on goals scored. It's about winning things. I can't see the sideways step argument having any validity, otherwise why would Mkhitaryan have left them? And should we win the EL, we'd be in a far better position in 17/18 than we were in 16/17 (with Dortmund having had a worse season).We are a bigger club and have a huge financial pull so we can take Doutmund best players from them, yes but that doesn't mean we had a better season than them. They have had an average season yet still scored 72 goals in the league and we scored a dismal 54, every team above us was in the high 70's and beyond. Everton and Bournemouth had more goals than us, 14th place palace scored only 4 less. In terms of Playing style, we are a step behind Doutmund even if they aren't as good as they once was.
Things we have over Doutmund are Money, big named players, better league iterms of quality and how it's broadcast and United are more world wide known than them. That's why I say if we get Champions League next year it will be a step sideways for Auba
If Auba goes to PSG and Cavani was available option, will you guys take him at United ?
Your first sentence, how do you win things? By scoring goals. We haven't thrashed a team 4-0, 5-0 or whatever like Tottenham, City and Chelsea have been doing. Dortmund also do that.No one measures the success of a season based on goals scored. It's about winning things. I can't see the sideways step argument having any validity, otherwise why would Mkhitaryan have left them? And should we win the EL, we'd be in a far better position in 17/18 than we were in 16/17 (with Dortmund having had a worse season).
My point is pretty simple. If we win on Wednesday we'll have had a better season than Dortmund (or, in fact, any season Dortmund has had since they won the league). The rest is speculation, but wining is all that matters.So Dortmund have been in the champions league and have already qualified for it next season, we haven't been in it and haven't as of yet qualified for it. We won a cup and maybe a potential 2nd yes, Dortmund are also in a Cup final. Playing styles goals always matter as that's what wins games. We have a solid defence but that's got us draws as our attack has been well, crap compared to the teams that finished above us.
Miki have left them, because Watzke did not offer enough money to sign another contract and there are no contract clauses anymore in Dortmund. So why would a 27 year old player sign a new contract under those conditions?No one measures the success of a season based on goals scored. It's about winning things. I can't see the sideways step argument having any validity, otherwise why would Mkhitaryan have left them? And should we win the EL, we'd be in a far better position in 17/18 than we were in 16/17 (with Dortmund having had a worse season).
I heard his finishing has been off this season. I haven't watched them like I used to so can anyone confirm if this is true?
Wow.31 in 32 in Bundesliga.
yeah, not off in the slightestWow.
It was way off in few CL games I saw. A lot of poor finishing and a lot of offsides. But Dortmund create a boatload of chances and he also scores difficult ones and creates some on his own on pace alone so it's not a problem with him I would say. Just look at his goal record.I heard his finishing has been off this season. I haven't watched them like I used to so can anyone confirm if this is true?
yeah, not off in the slightest
It was way off in few CL games I saw. A lot of poor finishing and a lot of offsides. But Dortmund create a boatload of chances and he also scores difficult ones and creates some on his own on pace alone so it's not a problem with him I would say. Just look at his goal record.
Pft.. Auba and Micky were ridiculous together, adding Griezzy I think would make us on paper the best front line in the premFor sure. I was about to note though that according to Bundesliga, Dortmund have created 74 big chances(most in the league by 14) yet are 8th in terms of goal conversion. I was curious as to whether maybe Auba played a part in that but then started envisioning Griezmann, Auba, and Mkhitaryan running circles around defenses.
He had a terrible Afcon tournament and was going through a bad patch for a few games after the tournament. He was horrible in the first leg against Benfica. But since then he recovered and was back to his old self.I heard his finishing has been off this season. I haven't watched them like I used to so can anyone confirm if this is true?
Is it PSG that wants him? None of the Spanish clubs are after him. In the PL, maybe United and Chelsea may be interested. Not too many options for him.http://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/...abe-51907772,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html
Has asked to leave Dortmund according to BILD.
I don't think he likes to go back to France.Is it PSG that wants him? None of the Spanish clubs are after him. In the PL, maybe United and Chelsea may be interested. Not too many options for him.
50 mil for premier forward. Dream on.I think the talk of his finishing being off is not as ridiculous as it sounds given his final output of almost a goal/game. He has missed some very easy chances, and he's had the benefit of a Dembele feeding him some easy goals. He hasn't impressed me in 1v1 situation and I wouldn't go over 50M for a guy like Auba. If he's available around that price though, then I think he'd be a solid pick-up.