Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if some other youngster breaks out this year and gets on their rader. Coutinho doesn't seem like the type of talent you desperately wait a year for willing to still pay an exuberant fee. This isn't like Real waiting for Ronaldo, or if we are holding out waiting for Griezmann. They really should have gone after Ceballos before he went to Real. Maybe by then they turn their focus to someone like Dele Alli, or find a target no one is really thinking about right now. Or maybe someone like Tielmans emerges as a better option.
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They have destroyed his career that is the only thing they achieved. They never really had any chances at the EPL nor getting out of the group stages in the UCL. they just don't have the overall quality in my opinion nor have they won the league in more then 27-years. Klopp is gaining nothing by withholding a very unhappy and crying coutinho from his dream. It benefits him zero.
Let Coutinho enjoy his career and fulfill his dreams. The window is soon shout and Barca is not coming back for Coutinho imo. It's like seeing your dream go past you due to some other idiots who are standing in the way. I don't see the transfer going through
Let Coutinho enjoy his career and fulfill his dreams. The window is soon shout and Barca is not coming back for Coutinho imo. It's like seeing your dream go past you due to some other idiots who are standing in the way. I don't see the transfer going through
I agree with pretty much every word you have written.
Liverpool have essentially shattered the dreams of Coutinho. They've ruined his life. Do they really think this is going to end well for them?
Not sure if the last 2 posts are serious, the latter not surprising given who posted it. Prat of the season contender.
We have ruined his life? Yeah being paid a mega fortune to play football, signing a new long term contract at LFC.
"a very unhappy and crying coutinho from his dream"
I wish someone would ruin my life like that.
We have ruined his life? Yeah being paid a mega fortune to play football, signing a new long term contract at LFC.
"a very unhappy and crying coutinho from his dream"
I wish someone would ruin my life like that.
You need to quickly learn which posts at wumming and which aren't. This is the best football forum on the internet in my opinion, but it's still a United forum and we're there biggest rivals. If you responded to every post you'd quickly have a post count in 6 figuresI know, ruined his life ha ha. RidiculousNot sure if the last 2 posts are serious, the latter not surprising given who posted it. Prat of the season contender.
We have ruined his life? Yeah being paid a mega fortune to play football, signing a new long term contract at LFC.
"a very unhappy and crying coutinho from his dream"
I wish someone would ruin my life like that.
I learned years ago mate - just can't resist having a laugh back in return.
And some of the so called wummer's are actually serious!
Liverpool refused 160 ml euros, madness... why?
Not sure if the last 2 posts are serious, the latter not surprising given who posted it. Prat of the season contender.
We have ruined his life? Yeah being paid a mega fortune to play football, signing a new long term contract at LFC.
"a very unhappy and crying coutinho from his dream"
I wish someone would ruin my life like that.
Like I said last night, I don't expect most people to have much sympathy for Coutinho given the money he earns. But he is still a human being with real feelings, dreams and emotions. I bet the money he earns at Liverpool feels irrelevant and completely unimportant to him right now.
Sometimes you have to let go a player who doesn't want to play for you anymore and not risk a toxic inside the dressing room
Refusing a 150m for a player who deserves only half that price if not less, and keep an unhappy player is absolute madness.
Some posters need to get real. Coutinho tried something, it didn't work out, Liverpool needs him, he needs to play because there is a world cup at the end of the season. Everything will work itself out, he won't stay "unhappy" for long.
Morally this view is incorrect. People have careers and childhood dreams you know. You just can't take that away and take it lightly as if he is going to forget it. He will remember this opportunity for the rest of his life. ''He will always become that player who could have become'' instead of he did it. All of this because of ridiculous 3rd party people. Let the boy live his dream I say.
The only big loser here is Coutinho because life continues and new players emerge as the market changes fast. Everything was setup for him to fill this cap and become the next big thing but now it's all gone thanks to people who are not him
He is still relatively young though. Next year he will enter his prime (26) and if he continues to improve his game all teams will want him including Barca. It won't be easy to replace Iniesta.
It's his fault mostly in the end. Players like money so they extent their contracts all the time to get a big boost in salary. When you do that, you pay a price. Coutinho should have known that he was on the verge of becoming too good for a B level team like today's version of Liverpool. Yet he extented his contract just several months ago. No clause that he can go for a certain sum, no nothing.
He's not this helpless little kid who doesn't know what he is doing, and Liverpool are taking advantage of him. That being said, if they ruin his career from now on, I hope Liverpool won't get their hands on a talented South American player for a long time. If Firmino is smart, he won't extend his contract with Liverpool either.
You can pressure the club differently when you have 1-2 years left on your contract. And it's a whole different thing to have 5 more years.
haha, someone is upset because can´t get the player
, don´t worry, you still have time to pay Parejo´s clause Strange decision to not sell him for that price. He doesn't want to be at Liverpool so it's unlikely to get better from this point.
I don't think it helps with their recruitment either if they are blocking players from going to one of the top tier clubs. I mean fair enough if they low-ball you but they were offering a ridiculous sum of money.
I don't think it helps with their recruitment either if they are blocking players from going to one of the top tier clubs. I mean fair enough if they low-ball you but they were offering a ridiculous sum of money.
Honestly I don't see Barca coming back for this deal because I think they will make signings today while others like Denis Suarez might get big role and improve and also the market might change completely so I don't see Barca coming back for this one. It's very uncertain.
Him signing a new deal had nothing to do it or any fault of this transfer getting butchered by his club. Barca was ready to pay ridiulouse amount to free him but liverpool was just unwilling despite knowing his desire and dream. They let him down
Club's don't always act in their players' best interests. They also act out of pride and to prove a point, as Liverpool did here. Players need to be smarter in planning their career moves. Both Dembele and Coutinho are players who somehow where in really long term contracts with no clauses or no anything. With their career fully in the hands of their clubs. You can't put yourself in that position and then moan that their clubs are forcing their contracts on them.
Look at what Neymar did when signing the extension with Barca. Put a clause so that if he wants to move, he can move. That's planning ahead.
haha, someone is upset because can´t get the player
Or maybe we'll use Alena there and he becomes our Asensio. How about that?
Ruin his career. He's a damn good player and much better than a lot of people think. He'll get his move next season if he stays injury free this. It's really that simple. People keep saying it's a once in a lifetime shot have zero appreciation for context and how much Barca love Brazilian footballers. He deserves a move cause we haven't shown enough ambition in the market I'll grant you that.Let's hope Coutinho sabotages Liverpool's little chance for any success. Look forward to a couple of own goals this season.
Placing all the blame on the club for a failed dream transfer is false. Coutinho and all other players have agents working on their behalf. This wasn't something out of the blue where Barcelona had interest in him, it's been at least a year that rumors of Barca being linked with Coutinho was surfacing.
Coutinho and his agents should share the blame as well. Having reasonable out-clauses in your contract is not only common sense but needed. We all know how shite contracts really are, so try being transparent and share the vision. If these clubs come calling, then I want to be transferred. Sort out the financials and let me go. It gives everyone a heads up and time to prepare.
Overall, feck Barcelona and even though they are still a strong team thanks to world class players like Messi and Vampire and a weak league outside a few teams, they'll still compete at a high level. May Coutinho pout and be a cockup for Liverpool causing disruption
Coutinho and his agents should share the blame as well. Having reasonable out-clauses in your contract is not only common sense but needed. We all know how shite contracts really are, so try being transparent and share the vision. If these clubs come calling, then I want to be transferred. Sort out the financials and let me go. It gives everyone a heads up and time to prepare.
Overall, feck Barcelona and even though they are still a strong team thanks to world class players like Messi and Vampire and a weak league outside a few teams, they'll still compete at a high level. May Coutinho pout and be a cockup for Liverpool causing disruption
That would be a very good option. Aleñá looks great although I thought he was more an organizer of the play, while Coutinho is more an attacking midfielder, besides in moments of instability don´t think that is good to give him so much responsability.
Totally agree with this. Have no sympathy for him or any other player who tries to break a clubs contract without mutual agreement.
As much as I would like to see Coutinho leave Liverpool I actually like Liverpool's stance on it. You're under contract, you're not for sale, you're staying. I wish more clubs would stand firm instead of eventually caving in like usually happens.
Whether it be a sporting decision, a financial decision (not in this case), or just a decision based on principle, it's good to see.
Whether it be a sporting decision, a financial decision (not in this case), or just a decision based on principle, it's good to see.
Not much sympathy for him either. He just extended at the beginning of 2017, and half a year later he is crying that he is staying at Liverpool. Too much. Just took Liverpool by storm, and as much as I don't agree with clubs forcing players to stay, they gave him a big chance after he failed to impress at Inter.
F***ing 'ell, was thinking English people do not make that mistake!
I will never have doubts in my english, written or spoken.
Thanks.
Sorry, bored...
If Coutinho suffered a career ending injury tomorrow, Liverpool would be forced to pay his salary for the next four years. Players can't expect all the benefits of a long term contract with a club without any of the obligations.
I wonder how much giro money was wasted on lighter fluid and matches la?
They have insurance against that.
Knowing how Klopp operates, I doubt Coutinho's going to be in the squad for next couple of games. He'll be forced to prove he's again 100% in it, and it will take time before Klopp thinks that's actually the case, if ever.
For all we know, a very solid CB for our standards, and a real fan favourite only missed team lunch and a morning routine, and he was immediately forced out of the squad, then spent more than a year playing for reserves while waiting for some other club to buy him. Now imagine what Klopp may do to someone that tried to force a move away like that.
Coutinho is fecked either way. World cup is coming up, and if he doesn't play this season, he may not get into Brazil squad.
For all we know, a very solid CB for our standards, and a real fan favourite only missed team lunch and a morning routine, and he was immediately forced out of the squad, then spent more than a year playing for reserves while waiting for some other club to buy him. Now imagine what Klopp may do to someone that tried to force a move away like that.
Coutinho is fecked either way. World cup is coming up, and if he doesn't play this season, he may not get into Brazil squad.
Not sure if the last 2 posts are serious, the latter not surprising given who posted it. Prat of the season contender.
We have ruined his life? Yeah being paid a mega fortune to play football, signing a new long term contract at LFC.
"a very unhappy and crying coutinho from his dream"
I wish someone would ruin my life like that.
Yeah, some times sports fans forget that footballers are employees like in any other field of work. Things can go up and down but people carry on.
Coutinho (and also Sanchez, VVD, etc) finds it a bit difficult at the moment, but when the season really gets going again they will all act professionally and play well – provided that they're fielded of course.
It's not rocket science, it's just life, things pass and we carry on.
Unless Coutinho doesn't affect the club or squad negatively, it'll be fine and in a few months' time perhaps he'll start to instead look forward to leaving for Barca next summer. I'm certain he'll go there anyway, eventually. Could actually boost his motivation, unfortunately.
World Cup at the end of the season and all too.
They still have to pay though.
Contracts are a two way street. It's unreasonable that one side is held strictly to the terms of the agreement, while the other party is freed from his legal obligations for the asking.
Objectively it might have been better for Liverpool to accept such an inflated offer, but I suppose they saw their stance as upholding the dignity of the club.
You cant extend a contract with increased wages and then demand to be sold (albeit at an inflated price with ample profit for Liverpool) Liverpool have done well in the end. Only thing is they might not get the same amount of money next summer. Which they might be fine with.
They could have sold him and reinvested the money in Lemar and VVD which would have made them stronger, except the perception of a selling club would also be stronger. Ultimately they are better off fighting that perception IMO. However at the same time that requires investment in the squad.
They could have sold him and reinvested the money in Lemar and VVD which would have made them stronger, except the perception of a selling club would also be stronger. Ultimately they are better off fighting that perception IMO. However at the same time that requires investment in the squad.
Nothing new? Will he have to suck it up and stay?
F***ing 'ell, was thinking English people do not make that mistake!
I will never have doubts in my english, written or spoken.
Thanks.
Sorry, bored...
I have zero idea how I got an A at A level in English lang/lit. My writing is generally fine but I'm egregious with grammar.Not really, Southampton clearly didn't want to sell to us at any price, I am not entirely sure what went on with Lemar but given it was a £92m offer that was accepted by Monaco from Arsenal there is no guarantee Liverpool were interested that much to match that.
Liverpool's main 2 targets this window, Keita and Van Dijk, were not reliant on Coutinho being sold.
"Morally"
i'd love to have my dreams shattered the same wayIf they refused that sum they are mad, I'd flog him to feck even if he was our player at that price, and we really don't need the money.
They could have adressed all their weaknesses with that sum, and as demonstrated against Arsenal they really don't need Coutinho.
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