What is actually going on with this, are these chicken farmers that retarded they dont even understand what putting a release clause into a players contract actually means!? what the hell are these people doing in football in the first place!?
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Blackburn Rovers tried to break the bank to keep hold of Phil Jones (From Lancashire Telegraph)
They're not completely stupid then.
I chuckled, and it's not really desireable considering I'm at work, sitting in the office trying to look busy
Geez, talk about disillusioned fans on that link.
Well that's probably the intention but they might argue that that contains no explicit agreement to accept the bid, simply that they can negotiate their terms at that point. Should it ever go so far as a Court a Judge would no doubt see through that pretty quickly, I imagine.
But the traditional chronology of bidding, agreeing terms and completing the signing isn't something you're obliged to do. Teams are perfectly entitled to grant permission to talk to a club/do a medical prior to agreeing a fee, if they want. There's no real reason to though, unless they're in a hurry to get it done.
Didn't Arsenal also put in a £16 million bid that got accepted?
Nice attitude.
Then effectively the 16mil clause offers no benefit whatsoever to the player.
I wonder if Jones and his agent/representative are aware that they've inserted a totally pointless clause into his contract.
That being said, no other major news websites seem to have picked up on this story at all, so I doubt it's even true.
As I clearly said way back when, I have no idea if the clause is worded that way or not. I'm just speculating on what little I know, and what might be the case.
looking at that pic i just spit my snicker all over my screen....laughing my balls off...they are going mad here at work....fecking spaso"s
Yeah pity the fools who are actually trying to keep their best youngster. What a fecking idiotic attitude.
Surely United, the player & Blackburn's CEO realise when someone triggers a release clause it means the club are obliged to sell him. The owners can try all they want but if he has a release clause they have to sell him provided we pay that fee.
I wish the club would make some sort of announcement regarding the deal, the longer they wait the more rumours begin to emerge.
I wish the club would make some sort of announcement regarding the deal, the longer they wait the more rumours begin to emerge.
When theres a clause in his contract stating they have no choice in the matter when a figure is reached yeah it is rather.
Their idiotic decisions in the past count against them.
Surely they are privy to information which we're not, and that's why they are haggling over this. They've a right to get as much as money from their players as they want. We're not even sure if that clause is there because BBC reported the fees at 17Mil.
Their decision to sack Big Sam was retarded, I agree.
they will squeeze a few more millions from us for sure.
Hm, yea you'd hope a Judge would tell them to do one, but I see what you're saying that they could try and use the vague wording to their advantage, if that is indeed the way it's worded.
Manchester United are closing in on a deal to sign Ashley Young from Aston Villa but have seen their £16.5 million deal to sign Phil Jones put on hold over a legal dispute with Blackburn Rovers.
Jones agreed personal terms with United and underwent a medical on Wednesday, before flying out to join the England Under-21 squad in Denmark, but Blackburn have since indicated that the deal cannot go through. Although a clause in the defender’s contract allows him to speak to any club offering more than £16 million for his services, Blackburn’s owners, Venky’s, believe the clause in question does not automatically force them to accept any such bid.
United firmly expect the deal to go through for £16.5 million, but they have been surprised by Blackburn’s resistance. Jones signed the contract in February, but there are even doubts at Ewood Park about the board’s position and their belief that the 19-year-old can legitimately be valued at closer to £25 million.
Young, the England forward, is close to finalising his move to Old Trafford. United and Villa are understood to have reached an agreement of a fee in the region of £16 million, while the player is reported to have agreed personal terms. Young is expected to sign officially after he returns from holiday.
The Stevenage-born forward also interested Liverpool, but Sir Alex Ferguson has acted swiftly and decisively in the transfer market so far this summer and is also keen on signing David de Gea, the Athletico Madrid goalkeeper, as a replacement for Edwin van der Sar, who has retired. Tentative enquiries have also been made about Samir Nasri, the Arsenal midfield player, who has a year remaining on his current contract and has been hesitant to sign a new deal in North London.
Jones is seen by Ferguson as a long-term partner to Chris Smalling in central defence and sought assurances from the Scot over his immediate playing opportunities before agreeing terms. The England Under-21 international, who signed Manchester United shirts for supporters at a training session yesterday, spurned a last-minute advance from Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal manager, who was also keen to sign him.
Jones agreed personal terms with United and underwent a medical on Wednesday, before flying out to join the England Under-21 squad in Denmark, but Blackburn have since indicated that the deal cannot go through. Although a clause in the defender’s contract allows him to speak to any club offering more than £16 million for his services, Blackburn’s owners, Venky’s, believe the clause in question does not automatically force them to accept any such bid.
United firmly expect the deal to go through for £16.5 million, but they have been surprised by Blackburn’s resistance. Jones signed the contract in February, but there are even doubts at Ewood Park about the board’s position and their belief that the 19-year-old can legitimately be valued at closer to £25 million.
Young, the England forward, is close to finalising his move to Old Trafford. United and Villa are understood to have reached an agreement of a fee in the region of £16 million, while the player is reported to have agreed personal terms. Young is expected to sign officially after he returns from holiday.
The Stevenage-born forward also interested Liverpool, but Sir Alex Ferguson has acted swiftly and decisively in the transfer market so far this summer and is also keen on signing David de Gea, the Athletico Madrid goalkeeper, as a replacement for Edwin van der Sar, who has retired. Tentative enquiries have also been made about Samir Nasri, the Arsenal midfield player, who has a year remaining on his current contract and has been hesitant to sign a new deal in North London.
Jones is seen by Ferguson as a long-term partner to Chris Smalling in central defence and sought assurances from the Scot over his immediate playing opportunities before agreeing terms. The England Under-21 international, who signed Manchester United shirts for supporters at a training session yesterday, spurned a last-minute advance from Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal manager, who was also keen to sign him.
Great way to build goodwill.
Says it all really...
Oh Piss off Rovers.
Blackburn have really become a joke club. Worst owners in the Premier League since Portsmouth.
I am sure it will go through.
This bunch of tossers don't know the first thing about running a football club.
This bunch of tossers don't know the first thing about running a football club.
This is embarressing for rovers and frustrating for us.
It most probably just media bs
There could be a number of reasons for delaying the announcement.
There could be a number of reasons for delaying the announcement.
A United supporting mate who has been following this says that apparently there's a clause in the contract that means the 16 million trigger only allows clubs to talk to Jones, but apparently still gives Blackburn the right to refuse bids.
Don't know whether or not that's true, it sounds stupid, but kind of makes sense too.
Don't know whether or not that's true, it sounds stupid, but kind of makes sense too.
Makes no sense at all.
It's more like that's what Blackburn's owners think the clause is. The reality is possibly quite different, since that clause would be next to useless.
Upsetting and worrying too for the poor player too no doubt, a young 19 yr old lad who's over in Denmark for the under-21 games and hasn't a clue where his future is going to be.
Maybe they should think about him when they're messing about like this.
If these rumours are true and they'd no intention of selling him at that price they should have made that clear to him and United in the first place.
Its stupid, because they have a player that doesn't want to play for them anymore. He obviously thinks that he's signed for United and likely to be PISSED at them for fecking him over. That's not really adding to his transfer value.
They are damaging the clubs reputation with all the other premier league clubs who believed that the release clause was an actual release clause.
Other clubs will look at that and question whether the owners are actually trustworthy. Plus If they are going to try and hold United to ransom will we really want to deal with them in a positive way again? ie loaning players to the club.
This is as well as being a joke for hiring Steve Kean because he will do what they say, and trying to sign Ronaldinho.
Before we all go off on (possibly xenophobic) rants about Blackburn's owners (and I'm a wee bit guilty of this myself) we should bare in mind that this whole "refusing to accept the buy-out clause" could be just as much of a load of old bollox as the "failed his medical" rumour doing the rounds a couple of days ago.
no way would they let him have a medical if we hadn't agreed his price, this is all smoke to appease their fans, and make us look like the culprit.
This happens all the time without any sort of clauses in contracts. Your mate is talking bollocks.
Also we don't have kenyon anymore so, we would have done our homework.
Doesn't matter. Always a good time to throw insults at somebody.
I agree. On the other hand they did caused problems when we were interested in Shearer. Lets say that they don't really like selling players to us.
Sounds like he's quoting ESPN:
Unusually, the player has already passed his medical and agreed personal terms with United, which normally means the clubs have agreed the fee but ESPNsoccernet has discovered that a clause in Jones' contract only triggers the player's ability to discuss a potential move with a club who offers £16 million rather than fully complete the deal. Rovers' hierachy's stance is that the deal is by no means done and they will hold out for more cash.
Phil Jones valued by Rovers at £25m, not £16m - ESPN Soccernet
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