All that assumes that there are clubs desperate to buy Phil Jones, and we'll gain financially from him being on a long-term contract because said clubs will be prepared to offer more. Personally I think that's a far fetched assumption and we'd have been better off financially if we sold him in the summer to the highest bidder. Instead what's more likely is we're now stuck paying the wage of an injury prone crock for another 4 years.
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So we have given him a contract so that we can sell him??
Not to forget that an assumption has been made that there will be many clubs who are lining up to buy Jones for big money because he has a 3+ years left on his contract
Terrific news that Jonesy will be around the place for another four years (At least) Hope he got a tidy pay packet as well.
If he gets injured he will cost us nothing in wages for that period. As all professional players he is insured by the club. I am sorry, but that is a really lazy and incorrect argument.
I seemingly rate Jones as a talent more than many.
Thing is, I think he's good when fit and has had a run of games. Like Rooney he's notoriously rusty when coming back from a layoff, but it takes him even longer to get up to speed than it did Wayne. He's also injured much more often than Rooney was. As such I don't know if he's worth bothering with, might be better to have someone even slightly worse at peak level but who wouldn't need to such a long time to play himself into form. An injury free version of Jones I'd keep around all day long.
Thing is, I think he's good when fit and has had a run of games. Like Rooney he's notoriously rusty when coming back from a layoff, but it takes him even longer to get up to speed than it did Wayne. He's also injured much more often than Rooney was. As such I don't know if he's worth bothering with, might be better to have someone even slightly worse at peak level but who wouldn't need to such a long time to play himself into form. An injury free version of Jones I'd keep around all day long.
My point is they don’t see a squad. They see a starting 11.
I wouldn’t say lesser human beings, just lesser intelligence.
Who do you suggest we get as a squad player?
No, I think it was a footballing decision by the club and OGS. But once that decision was made, the term of the contract was absolutely the right choice. Regardless of what you think of Jones as a player. For the reasons I stated.
How would I know. I'm one of the stupid 99%......
Don't you think it's a waste of your time you genius to stick around with guys like us ?
When we do get a top quality CB and Jones isn't getting games he can leave. As of now we need him.
Don't you think it's a waste of your time you genius to stick around with guys like us ?
Don't you think it's a waste of your time you genius to stick around with guys like us ?
Don't you think it's a waste of your time you genius to stick around with guys like us ?
Look, if I was so clever I’d work out how to reply quickly wothout fecking it up on google chrome. I’ll stick with you lot.
Well, try to at least work out how to quote the post one time instead of 3.
I can now sleep soundly tonight.
When geniuses click on something once, it comes out thrice. But how you know?? You are not one in the 1%
Don't sleep too much. You might miss out the Valencia signing
Signing Jones is to prep for a summer of not signing a proper CB.
What the feck.
Ole's first mistake...
Poch wouldn't have resigned this guy.
Ole's first mistake...
Poch wouldn't have resigned this guy.
Just feck off.
Ugh. Not sure what to think of this but there is definitely a logical explanation.
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Yeah, me too. I dont see the Jones deal as a sign that we will not go really hard for a real top CB-target this summer. Quite the opposite actually.
IMO we are going to go for a top top player though, and they have to be available and want to come as well though.
But I would be very, very surprised if not one of Koulibaly/De Ligt/Skriniar becomes a United player this summer.
Woodward is always being ridiculed for the Varane-quote when what he said makes complete sense. If there is a world class young(ish) player available the club will not hesitate to spend. It should be a good thing that.
Maybe were keeping him to part exchange with another club.
We tell Leicester they can feck off with their £75m cash price for Maguire and offer them £74m plus Jones
He done a great job for the club, but let's face the facts. His time at the top is over. Could you imagine him playing at another top club? Take Barcelona, Real Madrid or any other top club, could you fit him in? I can remember him playing very well for United in very many European games, one example being an away match at Real where he ended up as MOM in my opinion. But I seriously think we need to aim higher.
I can get giving him a new contract so he doesn't walk away for nothing but to give him a 4 and half year contract is absolutely barmy.
You really deserve a tagline for your brilliance. I hope a mod can oblige with something suiting.
April is still a good bit off, what the hell is going on here.
Not sure how to feel about this really, he could still be sold and he could still just do what he is doing where he pops in every so often and does a somewhat up and down job.
Not sure how to feel about this really, he could still be sold and he could still just do what he is doing where he pops in every so often and does a somewhat up and down job.
Good.
Jones is never going to be a top-level centre half for us or anyone else, no matter who's doing the coaching.
I agree, a 1 year contract would have been my offer. And even then I would have wondered.
Maybe you should pick something?
Astonishing how many people this don’t get.
Let him leave for free and then buy a backup would cost more then have him around for 50k a week.
He’s homegrown and doesn’t make a fuss when he’s not playing.
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Don’t think this is a bad call but we need a DoF in place ASAP.
Still can't quite believe it. A ridiculous decision, even if they want a longer contract to sell him for a decent fee.
The only way this is vaguely acceptable is if we sign another starting CB.
He had a great run with Rojo before, like usual, he got injured and struggled to re-find that form again, as well as other factors like confidence, team form, locker room morale, etc. Anyways this is probably bad news for one of Rojo or Bailly if we are certain on signing a new CB.
I doubt this comes into at all. This Jones decision is a completely financial one and has very little footballing basis.
It is cheaper to get Jones for the next few years costing £10m in wages than to buy a replacement for a fee + wages. Now of course the truly finacially savvy move would be to bin Jones completely and replace him with Tuanzebe who would cost nothing and be on a lower wage essentially saving us double the wages and a fee.
Should be fun when Lindelof is our only fit CB.
It's a weird one really. De Gea has been carrying our defence for ages yet we persist with the same players. It reminds me of our midfield under SAF, a glaring weakness in his later years that never got addressed. Instead we played any squad player we could there and an old Scholes.
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