Peterson, Harris, etc....

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And more often than not agrees with them . It's not just me a lot of people feel the same .

Also this this I'm a libertarian is often an excuse to deny you are a Republican.

That's my problem with him really he clearly comes off as right wing but denies it hiding behind the libertertarian banner .
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Rogan is high for about 95% of his podcasts. It's a conversation rather than an interview - He's not there to grill or debate his guests. Most of those conversations with Peterson, Shapiro, Harris etc. tend to just be the same anti-SJW garbage but he has actually pushed back on Crowder regarding drugs, Candace Owens' regarding climate change and Dave Rubin on his general idiocy. I've listened to Rogan for years and in no way would I describe his views as conservative - certainly not by American standards. He's a centrist or a liberal but very much anti-censorship or political correctness which is pretty natural for comedians.

When he has left wing guests like Tusli Gabbard, Kyle Kulinski, Abby Martin etc. he doesn't push back either and agrees with their points. It's just his style.
 
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I often get the feeling Rogan is more right wing than he lets on. Maybe thats just my own left wing bias at play though? Actually now that I think of it that is probably more likely.
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Its moreso left wing bias imo. If you told an actual right winger that Rogan was right wing they would probably have a good laugh.
 
Florida Man said:
What's wrong with Joe? I like him. And to be fair, it's hard to say no to getting paid to talk about your ideas for the president on a pretty popular platform that reaches people across the political spectrum.
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Joe Rogan's the poster child for the dangers of HGH and weed. A smart and funny guy who's gone off the deep end.

Dangerously into his conspiracy theories and too often gives a platform to those that should be ignored. Masks it all behind an "open mind/inquisitive nature" facade. Gives the game away in the odd interview when he starts agreeing with certifiable loons.

Massive head these days too. Down to the PEDs I guess.
 
Donk87 said:
Joe Rogan's the poster child for the dangers of HGH and weed. A smart and funny guy who's gone off the deep end.

Dangerously into his conspiracy theories and too often gives a platform to those that should be ignored. Masks it all behind an "open mind/inquisitive nature" facade. Gives the game away in the odd interview when he starts agreeing with certifiable loons.

Massive head these days too. Down to the PEDs I guess.
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He's generally agreeable with most of his guests.
 
Florida Man said:
What's wrong with Joe? I like him. And to be fair, it's hard to say no to getting paid to talk about your ideas for the president on a pretty popular platform that reaches people across the political spectrum.
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Yeah fair enough. I haven't listened to much of him but he seems fairly inquisitive and genuine. The quality of his podcast/segment varies widely with the quality of guest he has on.
 
sullydnl said:
I used to think the same but having watched more of his stuff I've noticed he tends to agree with whoever his guest is, even if their point of view is at odds with something he agreed with previously.

I think he's a moron but not quite as right wing as one might think based solely on his podcasts with right wing personalities.
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I think you’re right about agreeing with whoever is on. I think he wants to keep conversation flowing so is agreeable with whomever he talks to. The only fight I’ve seen him have with a guest was with that twunt Steven crowder.

I do think he gets easily swayed by the BS of people like Shapiro, Peterson etc though
 
Irish Jet said:
Rogan is high for about 95% of his podcasts. It's a conversation rather than an interview - He's not there to grill or debate his guests. Most of those conversations with Peterson, Shapiro, Harris etc. tend to just be the same anti-SJW garbage but he has actually pushed back on Crowder regarding drugs, Candace Owens' regarding climate change and Dave Rubin on his general idiocy. I've listened to Rogan for years and in no way would I describe his views as conservative - certainly not by American standards. He's a centrist or a liberal but very much anti-censorship or political correctness which is pretty natural for comedians.

When he has left wing guests like Tusli Gabbard, Kyle Kulinski, Abby Martin etc. he doesn't push back either and agrees with their points. It's just his style.
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This is a good way of putting it. His focus is having a good show to listen to, not some ideological crusade
 
Donk87 said:
Joe Rogan's the poster child for the dangers of HGH and weed. A smart and funny guy who's gone off the deep end.

Dangerously into his conspiracy theories and too often gives a platform to those that should be ignored. Masks it all behind an "open mind/inquisitive nature" facade. Gives the game away in the odd interview when he starts agreeing with certifiable loons.

Massive head these days too. Down to the PEDs I guess.
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The dangers of weed :lol: I think he has a good show and reading a post like this doesn’t convince me otherwise a whole lot.
 
Florida Man said:
The dangers of weed :lol: I think he has a good show and reading a post like this doesn’t convince me otherwise a whole lot.
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I specifically said HGH & weed but yeah, there are dangers with weed alone if you do too much of it. Just like every other drug.

Personally I find the guy comes across as a paranoid cuckoo but if you like the show then good for you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything and like I said, he is pretty funny.

He kind of reminds me of Will Absolute from on here. Smart and stupid all at the same time.
 
Donk87 said:
I specifically said HGH & weed but yeah, there are dangers with weed alone if you do too much of it. Just like every other drug.

Personally I find the guy comes across as a paranoid cuckoo but if you like the show then good for you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything and like I said, he is pretty funny.

He kind of reminds me of Will Absolute from on here. Smart and stupid all at the same time.
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I don’t know who Will Absolute is but I think Joe has actually ditched some of his more out there conspiracy theories. Eddie Bravo is the real conspiracy theorist and Joe laughs at him
 
Donk87 said:
I specifically said HGH & weed but yeah, there are dangers with weed alone if you do too much of it. Just like every other drug.

Personally I find the guy comes across as a paranoid cuckoo but if you like the show then good for you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything and like I said, he is pretty funny.

He kind of reminds me of Will Absolute from on here. Smart and stupid all at the same time.
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Unless you’re referring to asphyxiation then there are no such dangers of weed alone. But you referring to both at the same time so...

I don’t know how you can compare with Will Ansolute. One guy is an open minded one who is agreeable with a lot of his guests for the sake of good conversation, but has some questionable views. The other is bitter asshole who never seemed to be agreeable.
 
Donk87 said:
I specifically said HGH & weed but yeah, there are dangers with weed alone if you do too much of it. Just like every other drug.

Personally I find the guy comes across as a paranoid cuckoo but if you like the show then good for you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything and like I said, he is pretty funny.

He kind of reminds me of Will Absolute from on here. Smart and stupid all at the same time.
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Joe has become significantly less conspiracy minded with time so that sort of blows your weed theory. The podcast was actually better back then too, more laid back.
 
Irish Jet said:
Joe has become significantly less conspiracy minded with time so that sort of blows your weed theory. The podcast was actually better back then too, more laid back.
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Not too long ago he claimed that the meat-head lunatic on Infowars had been right about some conspiracies.
 
Florida Man said:
Unless you’re referring to asphyxiation then there are no such dangers of weed alone. But you referring to both at the same time so...

I don’t know how you can compare with Will Ansolute. One guy is an open minded one who is agreeable with a lot of his guests for the sake of good conversation, but has some questionable views. The other is bitter asshole who never seemed to be agreeable.
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Anxiety and paranoia amongst other things. Done in moderation it's no better or worse for you than alcohol but done to excess of course weed can be harmful. I'm not trumpeting an anti-weed position but it's naive to believe it's harmless.

I think he's like Will Absolute because they're both smart people who say lots of stupid things. But having said that...

@Charlie Foley @Irish Jet - Fair enough. I haven't listened to him for a few years so maybe my views are outdated.
 
What’s wrong with Peterson? I get that a lot of people can disagree with him, but hate him? Granted I’ve not seen a whole lot of him, but he seems very rational and laid back. I agree with some of his points and disagree with others.


A friend of mine showed me a video of a very aggressive female reporter who kept ignoring his points and shouting him down for opinions he, apparently, didn’t have. How’s that helping? If more people could keep his form of civilized discourse while debating, maybe the actual points might come across?
 
Handré1990 said:
What’s wrong with Peterson? I get that a lot of people can disagree with him, but hate him? Granted I’ve not seen a whole lot of him, but he seems very rational and laid back. I agree with some of his points and disagree with others.


A friend of mine showed me a video of a very aggressive female reporter who kept ignoring his points and shouting him down for opinions he, apparently, didn’t have. How’s that helping? If more people could keep his form of civilized discourse while debating, maybe the actual points might come across?
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Check back 2 pages for my post on Peterson.
 
Handré1990 said:
What’s wrong with Peterson? I get that a lot of people can disagree with him, but hate him? Granted I’ve not seen a whole lot of him, but he seems very rational and laid back. I agree with some of his points and disagree with others.


A friend of mine showed me a video of a very aggressive female reporter who kept ignoring his points and shouting him down for opinions he, apparently, didn’t have. How’s that helping? If more people could keep his form of civilized discourse while debating, maybe the actual points might come across?
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He's a complete hack.

He speaks in vague terms and never commits to positions he can later claim misrepresentation for anything he says or hide behind the complexity of an issue when he's caught out. The Cathy Newman interview which is probably the one you're referring to is a good example of him doing this - although she was terrible as well. He doesn't debate - Just spouts meaningless nonsense about post modern neo-marxism, like that's even a thing, or else he's being outraged over the left's outrage.

He's shown sympathy for some dangerously far right views in the past and there's also the pseudo science bullshit he pushed on issues like climate change. He's a waste of space.
 
Handré1990 said:
What’s wrong with Peterson? I get that a lot of people can disagree with him, but hate him? Granted I’ve not seen a whole lot of him, but he seems very rational and laid back. I agree with some of his points and disagree with others.


A friend of mine showed me a video of a very aggressive female reporter who kept ignoring his points and shouting him down for opinions he, apparently, didn’t have. How’s that helping? If more people could keep his form of civilized discourse while debating, maybe the actual points might come across?
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As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, Peterson seems to do just fine as long as he sticks to his actual profession. Its when he deviates into the work of other professions that he makes a mess of things.
 
Handré1990 said:
What’s wrong with Peterson? I get that a lot of people can disagree with him, but hate him? Granted I’ve not seen a whole lot of him, but he seems very rational and laid back. I agree with some of his points and disagree with others.


A friend of mine showed me a video of a very aggressive female reporter who kept ignoring his points and shouting him down for opinions he, apparently, didn’t have. How’s that helping? If more people could keep his form of civilized discourse while debating, maybe the actual points might come across?
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Whether I agree with him or disagree with him, that's the last thing you can suggest JBP is.

He's fcuking intense at all times. He's a bloody weirdo in terms of his social behaviour.
 
Florida Man said:
Unless you’re referring to asphyxiation then there are no such dangers of weed alone. But you referring to both at the same time so...

I don’t know how you can compare with Will Ansolute. One guy is an open minded one who is agreeable with a lot of his guests for the sake of good conversation, but has some questionable views. The other is bitter asshole who never seemed to be agreeable.
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All the research shows there's a link between heavy cannabis use and psychotic disorders. No causality established as of yet but there's clearly a link.
 
freeurmind said:
All the research shows there's a link between heavy cannabis use and psychotic disorders. No causality established as of yet but there's clearly a link.
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On the flip side, there’s plenty more research showing positive effects of cannabis. I may have painted a broad stroke but the pros outweighs the cons significantly.

Regardless, the context of the original comment was in criticism of Joe Rogan being a loony and blaming cannabis as part of it. I just find that to be absurd case to make just because the poster didn’t like some of his guests or his views.
 
Cheers for the answers! @Raoul @Irish Jet @Oo0AahCantona

Only ever seen the psychology stuff, and that Cathy Newman interview. What @Raoul says should ideally be the norm. When moving into political themes it’s all opinions and biased anyway.

Must say though, that particular interview with Cathy Newman actually made me actively dislike her (never heard of her before) and feel some sympathy towards him. She really didn’t interview him as much as attack him. Was really weird, and I can’t help but feel she did more harm than good for her cause.

I seem to remember him saying some interesting things about how some women want someone to dominate, lord around if you will, but still complain their men never takes charge. Can’t really generalise, but in my personal experience these types really do exist. My mother being the prime example (higher education than my father, higher salary etc).
 
Florida Man said:
On the flip side, there’s plenty more research showing positive effects of cannabis. I may have painted a broad stroke but the pros outweighs the cons significantly.

Regardless, the context of the original comment was in criticism of Joe Rogan being a loony and blaming cannabis as part of it. I just find that to be absurd case to make just because the poster didn’t like some of his guests or his views.
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Fair enough.
 
entropy said:
That’s ok. It’s a Sunday morning where I am. If you think that bald twat doesn’t engage in such rhetoric or have guests who do. Then good for you.
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There is no link between providing people from all sides with a platform, and being right wing. That's just something you pulled out of your ass. He is to anybody with ears very clearly a liberal.
 
His politics are fairly middle of the road though. Mainly libertarian.

If anyone hasn’t listened to his interview with Andrew Yang they really should. Haven’t listened to JRE in ages but this is one of his best ever IMO. Andrew Yang is the man. Would get my vote, that’s for damn sure.
 
Handré1990 said:
What’s wrong with Peterson? I get that a lot of people can disagree with him, but hate him? Granted I’ve not seen a whole lot of him, but he seems very rational and laid back. I agree with some of his points and disagree with others.


A friend of mine showed me a video of a very aggressive female reporter who kept ignoring his points and shouting him down for opinions he, apparently, didn’t have. How’s that helping? If more people could keep his form of civilized discourse while debating, maybe the actual points might come across?
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we're not quite sure yet, but definitely something...

 
I think JBP may actually have been a fairly ordinary, mildly eccentric, academic before he dug his heel in about pronouns and stumbled onto youtube fuelled celebrity. Which has made him go a bit ga ga.

Ironic that someone who prides himeslf on teaching mental fortitude to others seems to be rapidly going doolally himself.
 
entropy said:
I was when I first replied to you. But your last reply was some real dumb shit.
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Nope, you're just clueless if your genuine position is giving people on the right and left a platform to speak means you're on the right, which might not be your actual viewpoint but it's the statement you made that I replied to and since you seem to have an issue with my reply it can only be assumed that that's your position. The company I work for refused to kick Breitbart off our platform and we're probably one of the most liberal and progressive company in the country spearheading legal weed. It's not uncommon for left leaning people to give a platform to both the left and the right and let people make up their minds rather than sticking to an echo chamber.

Here's a guy who votes democrat every time and who is on board with climate change, for universal basic income, medicare, legalizing weed to name a few but sure, that's right wing.
 
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Nope, you're just clueless if your genuine position is giving people on the right and left a platform to speak means you're on the right, which might not be your actual viewpoint but it's the statement you made that I replied to and since you seem to have an issue with my reply it can only be assumed that that's your position. The company I work for refused to kick Breitbart off our platform and we're probably one of the most liberal and progressive company in the country spearheading legal weed. It's not uncommon for left leaning people to give a platform to both the left and the right and let people make up their minds rather than sticking to an echo chamber.

Here's a guy who votes democrat every time and who is on board with climate change, for universal basic income, medicare, legalizing weed to name a few but sure, that's right wing.
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Plus...how many right wingers are out there promoting DMT use.
 
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