He has a Tony Adamseque quality.
Peterson, Harris, etc....
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He has a Tony Adamseque quality.
Does that prove he's a racist or just a terrible judge of character?
Read his 'retraction' about King, basically 'yeah he defended white supremacism, so it's not totally implausible he's a racist'.
The first few pages of this thread were a trainwreck, not surprised the characters who prize themselves on their 'neutrality' are enamoured by this twunt.
Yep. What a shambolic cnut he is, and by the looks of it a racist one.
He's the sort of guy who'll never openly admit to being racist or who probably doesn't view himself as one, but who nevertheless will happily hold ideals which discriminate against certain minority groups and who'll accidentally continue to associate with racists/white supremacists on a regular basis.
Was listening to a podcast with him on it on the way in to work this morning. He's well worth a listen. The podcast was all about why he called Trump and the Brexit referendum correctly in advance. It was recorded in March last year and he said with absolute certainty that there's going to be a hard Brexit because the Tories will tear themselves apart trying to come up with a deal that works for everyone. Impressive predictive powers yet again.
The podcast is the Second Captains World Service. Which you have to pay for on Patreon but has some excellent political content. I also listened to one which featured a journalist from the Irish Times, Laura Kennedy give the most convincing defence of Jordan Peterson I've heard yet. Basically that he's not this uber-conservative Machiavellian genius so many people want him to be, just a bit of an odd-ball psychologist who made the most out of finding himself - almost inadvertently - in the spotlight to make a load of money out of a fairly mundane self-help book. A premise which I'll admit I found fairly convincing.
Anyone watch Jimmy Dore?
Shapiro is clearly racist if you pay attention to his stuff. He does his very best to hide it.
So are most of the ‘right wing’ intellectuals but that’s a bigger can of worms.
Now and then. He was good on the Joe Rogan experience.
I really enjoy listening to his views when he is on a panel with other TYT people because it provides a bit of balance. I especially enjoy watching him spar with Michael Shure as they really dont seem to like each other at all. Or at least they disagree massively on most political questions.
On the Jimmy Dore Show itself I find he rambles a lot.
Ok this is epic
I'd kill myself if Ben Shapiro was my employer
I bet he is insufferable. Thinks he's the bollox.
Next you guys will claim even his wife and kids don't really like him either because of that tweet about Arab people
I’d kill Ben Shapiro if he was my alarm clock.
How any human being can listen to that shrill sub-squeak voice is beyond me.
huh
Is that in relation to the post above, or are you confused?
If it’s the latter: What is epic?
That would be silly of me as it goes without saying
I've seen a bit. For many Bernie supporters including me, the primary fried our brains, but I don't know if he's recovered from that - he's had multiple Trump > Clinton takes. I think his confusion about Tucker Carlson generally shows his general confusion about politics - there is a dangerous precedent of right-wingers being skeptical of markets for undermining traditional values that he's just not aware of.
I prefer Michael Brooks, but tbh I don't listen to any of them much.
The one video I liked were when Sam Seder interviewed a libertarian presidential candidate who had a total meltdown over the concept of land licences or something.
Kyle>Jimmy
dont know who this guy is but aoc was just on his twitch stream
Truth.
Even though he has no legs and is in the pocket of Big Seltzer
This. Absolutely.
Exploitative characters like Peterson/Shapiro etc emerge during times of Divisive Politics and basically offer quasi-intellectualized comfort, affirmation and catch-all fixes to groups of people who are feeling disenfranchised, unsure and concerned about the World they're living in (due to the fact that they are living through a time of Divisive Politics).
They're all snake-oil salesmen - grifters, as you said.
In the case of Peterson, I see a deeply emotionally manipulative character. Who operates more or less shamelessly - often to the point of embarrassing transparency to those who are viewing his content from a more or less logical viewpoint...
The second vid is interesting in that you see how he uses a gratuitous emotional outburst in which he absolves the failings of his audience due to the fact that none of them 'have ever had a positive word said about them in their entire lives' to set-up his inevitable whining about 'leave the Patriarchy alone' etc...
It's all very emo, really.
The irony that many of this man's fans are the same folk who go around labeling people 'snowflakes' for demanding change is staggering.
It's also incredible that Peterson can remain completely emotionally calm when talking about human beings who are dying while running away from war torn countries, or domestic violence, or rape, or terrorism - yet literally begins weeping when talking about the specific, minor woes of the demographic that makes up his fanbase...
Geez, that's cringeworthy. I'm not sure whether they are manipulative crocodile tears, or whether he is genuinely impacted by the plight of people he's treated (more relatable to him than perhaps than truly poverty-strike or oppressed people).
I say laughably obvious crocodile tears - his emotional outbursts only ever serve his business-model, and occur in a way that perfectly aligns him to his primary fanbase (and source of money).
In many cases, he has literally filmed himself crying and then uploaded the video, rather than been moved to tears during a 'natural' conversation.
Even if we imagine for a moment that an intelligent grown-man who displays unusually demonstrative emotional outbursts publicly is only capable of displaying said emotion when it directly affects people he has worked with, it's worth remembering that...
He must've treated women in ruin. Victims of domestic violence etc.
He must've treated people who've been fecked up due to poor treatment as minorities etc.
He must've treated people who aren't essentially just disenfranchised men.
He must've treated people who've been the victims of disenfranchised men...
It's really incredible how he can only weep (and do so publicly) on just one topic, and yet coincidentally, that one topic serves his fame and income, and it benefits him greatly to be thought of as caring and empathetic and genuine (on that one topic).
Real emotional outbursts rarely occur in such specifically fortuitous ways for the person suffering them.
@Rhyme Animal I don't disagree, but you also have to question the mental and emotional stability of a "scientist" who swears by a beef-only diet and who claims that a sip of apple cider sent him spiralling into a month-long depressive quagmire of doom.
Hmm, I find it very difficult to sit through Kyle, the constant voices and repetition of his position etc - it's just too much.
However I do like Jimmy, although he tends to view things in very black white terms, something that is both a strength (money in politics, foreign intervention, health care etc) and a weakness (policing, immigration etc).
Kyle’s impersonations are awful. Especially his Trump one
I still much prefer his show to Jimmy (who’s good too).I hate the terminology of beta and alpha, but a huge part of Petersons appeal is to help beta become more "alpha" isn't it since a huge portion of his fan base are obviously incel? Which is deliciously hilarious because Peterson himself is about the most beta internet personality around.
Dore is about right. He's left wing, but common sense on a lot of stuff. However I'll admit I don't really know his deep down beliefs cause I really rarely ever see him. Kyle however, the guy is kind of insufferable. Not that I disagree with his positions, but he can't react to anything without acting like a total tit, pulling silly faces constantly.
But his tears are manly!